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-   -   Here's a little Scion Concept Car teaser video! (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1138)

dominican 04-13-2011 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ollin (Post 33655)
I know what the real problem is and i am going to just say it. Every one sees scion drivers as pimple faced teens who don't know how to drive. while this is not true this is how the world sees them. No one wants to be seen that way or as the guy trying to recap his youth with a rice burner. Since i am 23 I don't care. The only thing that i do care about is the difference in insurance price because the company sees the drivers as 17 year old pimple faced Micheal Schumacher wannabe.

badge it all you want, insurance companies aren't stupid, and will charge the same regardless of what it is badged.

Ae86 04-13-2011 06:09 PM

why does every one hate scion if we all fall under toyota nation
what the big deal
like Acura and Honda
like nissan and Infiniti
like VW and Audi
Lexus and toyota, scion

Archer256 04-13-2011 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ae86 (Post 33661)
why does every one hate scion if we all fall under toyota nation
what the big deal
like Acura and Honda
like nissan and Infiniti
like VW and Audi
Lexus and toyota, scion

you might as well ask for world peace.

Random_Art 04-13-2011 06:14 PM

This thread just keeps getting funnier. Everyone just needs to chill. Seriously.


Chill

out.

Toyota4Life 04-13-2011 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ae86 (Post 33661)
why does every one hate scion if we all fall under toyota nation
what the big deal
like Acura and Honda
like nissan and Infiniti
like VW and Audi
Lexus and toyota, scion

Because this is a TOYOTA sports car. Gee, how do you think it would've gone if GM had revived the Camaro and given it to Saturn? Do you think they would be OK with that? Because they sure as fuck wouldn't.

How come Government Motors can bring back the Camaro, yet us Toyota enthusiasts can't have the Celica, MR2, or Supra back? How come this car, which is basically a Celica, can't be called Celica? How come Toyota's heritage is being thrown away for some shitty (yes SHITTY) upstart brand that isn't even available in all markets? How come Toyota can't throw us long time fans a bone and revive something that us old timers will like and new enthuisasts will, too? How come we have to be stuck with some lame-ass alpha-numerically named bullshit car sold under a brand that is known for selling boxes to old people and idiot ricers who think their shit don't stink? What the hell is in it for us?


All of you who don't see the problem in this need to wake up. You think you'll ever get the Supra back with this mentality running Toyota today? Well, I have a gold toilet to sell you if you think that's the case. Today's news couldn't get me more infuriated.

ollin 04-13-2011 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dominican (Post 33658)
badge it all you want, insurance companies aren't stupid, and will charge the same regardless of what it is badged.


true but the demo for scion has higher insurance prices, the two companies maybe the same have different images in the eyes of the people and insurance companies

Archer256 04-13-2011 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Toyota4Life (Post 33668)
Because this is a TOYOTA sports car. Gee, how do you think it would've gone if GM had revived the Camaro and given it to Saturn? Do you think they would be OK with that? Because they sure as fuck wouldn't.

How come Government Motors can bring back the Camaro, yet us Toyota enthusiasts can't have the Celica, MR2, or Supra back? How come this car, which is basically a Celica, can't be called Celica? How come Toyota's heritage is being thrown away for some shitty (yes SHITTY) upstart brand that isn't even available in all markets? How come Toyota can't throw us long time fans a bone and revive something that us old timers will like and new enthuisasts will, too? How come we have to be stuck with some lame-ass alpha-numerically named bullshit car sold under a brand that is known for selling boxes to old people and idiot ricers who think their shit don't stink? What the hell is in it for us?


All of you who don't see the problem in this need to wake up. You think you'll ever get the Supra back with this mentality running Toyota today? Well, I have a gold toilet to sell you if you think that's the case. Today's news couldn't get me more infuriated.

im going to give you a heads up: If there is ever a new Supra, it'll be a Lexus.

Giccin 04-13-2011 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ae86 (Post 33661)
why does every one hate scion if we all fall under toyota nation
what the big deal
like Acura and Honda
like nissan and Infiniti
like VW and Audi
Lexus and toyota, scion

I don't think you understand the srsnss of this! :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random_Art (Post 33667)
This thread just keeps getting funnier. Everyone just needs to chill. Seriously.


Chill

out.

Most members here waited for this car to be a Toyota, and of course with all of the anticipation and teaser pictures of this car being a Toyota--the ft-86 is now marked as a scion at the NY Autoshow.

Of course thats going to get a lot of people riled up.

Matador 04-13-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 33674)
I don't think you understand the srsnss of this! :P


http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/upl...business02.jpg

Giccin 04-13-2011 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 33676)

+1
I like that. I'm going to steal the picture now. :bonk:

Aki 04-13-2011 06:44 PM

I dunno why ppl are so aghast, it'd be more surprising if it wasn't a Scion. The brand wasn't going away, and the car fits the demographic, hate it as you may.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ollin (Post 33669)
true but the demo for scion has higher insurance prices, the two companies maybe the same have different images in the eyes of the people and insurance companies

Premium prices are based on the individual models, not necessarily the overall brand. Insurance don't charge based on "image," they do it based on previous history of accidents with a given nameplate (or close equivalent), its demographic distribution, number of claims and amount per policy, repair costs, etc. They don't go "hmm Scion sounds like a young brand" and arbitrarily slap a high premium on it.

ollin 04-13-2011 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aki (Post 33683)
I dunno why ppl are so aghast, it'd be more surprising if it wasn't a Scion. The brand wasn't going away, and the car fits the demographic, hate it as you may.



Premium prices are based on the individual models, not necessarily the overall brand. Insurance don't charge based on "image," they do it based on previous history of accidents with a given nameplate (or close equivalent), its demographic distribution, number of claims and amount per policy, repair costs, etc. They don't go "hmm Scion sounds like a young brand" and arbitrarily slap a high premium on it.

A majority is based on on driver but brand and model does factor just the deference between luxury sport and sport luxury.

-TokenSX- 04-13-2011 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ollin (Post 33686)
A majority is based on on driver but brand and model does factor just the deference between luxury sport and sport luxury.

Haha yep your right ollin just like just like what giccin said nissan and infiniti, same motor but diff body style :happyanim:

Zaku 04-13-2011 07:02 PM

Is it even confirmed as a FT86 Variant? some part of me is still making the argument that this is a sub FT. Sure they share looks n stuff. anyways lets speculate some price point? how much more will this sit above the TC?

Also I don't seem to have a problem with it. honestly it's expected this maybe Scion's only saving grace. Btw there's a Subaru version go get that one instead.


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