For realz...
One dealership I know of is trying to sell a clearly USED car with 4k market adjustment. Had over 600 miles on it (buyer returned it or some BS like that)

The thing is, I plan on trading in my current car for a brz. Never traded in a vehicle before but I would assume I'll have to bring it to the dealership that has the car I want. Probably wouldn't make sense to bring my car to Colorado.

Ah, yeah that's a complication. You could sell your car privately or go to Carmax... I think trading in your car for a new one is usually a weak bargaining position to go in with. Even when the price of the new car is negotiable, whatever deal you manage to get, they will just lowball you on the trade to get that money back. You should treat them like two separate transactions, because they won't really do you any favors if you try to make it one.

Yeah unless the car is still being financed, it's best to sell it as a private party to another private party...depending who you deal with, most of the time their offer is really low.

I am about 90% sure that if you buy a car from outside CA (even new), the 6-year smog grace period is voided. This means the car must be smogged every 2 years starting from the year you buy it.

Not worth an out of state purchase IMHO, unless you are desperate.

source? or I call :bs:

I don't see anything about that here: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/smogfaq.htm#BM2537

I don't know if this'll help anyone, but here's a spreadsheet I made while I was looking:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...UV0dUFVZi1aZEE

Feel free to copy it to your own spreadsheet if you want. Seemed like the more I looked at the more depressed I got. Everyone told me they were pre-ordered, but wouldn't let me pre-order. Or, if it wasn't they'd say that they don't take pre-orders and to leave your name. After which they'd condescendingly tell you that there's 70 other guys on the list so good luck.

I'd be interested in the source for that 6-year smog grace period quote. It honestly won't be a big deal either way (an extra 50 bucks every two years) since I don't plan on modifying the car such that it won't pass smog.

Seems like others were able to purchase at invoice instead of $600 below msrp from Heuberger - anyone try to see if the same deal is still available?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8190

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...berger+invoice

I found a good read on CA smog...

http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/smog-check.php

yeah I think what Silverpike was thinking was based on this part:

but I don't think that means buying a new car out of state will be an exception. it sounds like it would be if you were a non-resident of CA but for whatever reason you were living in CA for a period of time and brought your car from out of state. If you are a resident of CA then I think you are OK. But it's not really clear.

My car is arriving Sunday from CO, it takes 4 days because of stops, and will go to DMV next week to register. I will find out this smog thing for all of us.

just backed out On a Whiteout MT in Chico...we had it on hold but it's now for sale. Chuck Patterson Scion ask for Eric

Let me know how that goes, CA DMV rules state the car must of been registered in another state and have over 6 or 7K miles on it for them to let you register the car in CA. I am very curious how they will handle your situation.

FINALLY!! My wait is OVER!! WRB MT Limited arrived Saturday. One day sooner. The biggest on-line/mail order sight unseen no test drive purchase ever! Odometer just like the document - 5 miles only landed in my front door! The only thing I can be picky about is the bumper and windshield is full of bugs after travel 1000+ miles, and the body is stick with a thin layer of Nevada desert dust. It comes off from a 40 foot long car transporter truck/trailer. Needs a good hand wash, that's all. I can tell the driver is a Pro do this load/ unload cars everyday so many times. My worry about the car may got a ding or scratch is over (or I should not be worry at all). Price? I have it @ MSRP shipped, plus license/tax of course. CO dealer also provide a temporary plate (paper) and CO tag so I can drive 60 days in CA until registration. "Someone" suggested me to register almost 60 day to get full use and save a couple months of CA registration fees.

I will post the DMV process after my visit to them, soon.

I just got my car from CO last week.. Maybe I should wait too... hhhmmmm.. Now I need to look for CO temp tags in my paperwork.

curious to see how it was handled, since you bought from Heuberger too right? I thought my sales person told me they would handle registering in CA for me, she said their title/reg people did CA sales all the time...

I bought my BRZ in Portland, OR and drove it 600 mi to CA. Then I registered it with the DMV at 700 mi on the odo after getting it smogged and inspected, no problemo. I have tags, registration, etc.

My dealer did not take care of sales tax. The DMV did that when I registered the car, although they apparently f***ed something up so I need to go back, but I think it had something to do with my paperwork rather than an issue with the laws. I'll go back and handle it without an issue, most likely.

Just a FYI.

so you are required to smog even if the car is brand new??

If it is purchased out of state, yup.

California :w00t:

I honestly feel like I got the rookie finance guy on my deal.. He wasnt in sync with the sales person at all... In addition he was looking for the "easy path" to submit title.. Im headed to dmv thursday to get paperwork filed.

ANY car that is not purchased in CA needs to be smogged to be registered.

hmmm I am a AAA member so I wonder if I can go into a local AAA office and get the registration taken care of when the time comes, without having to deal with DMV. I avoid the DMV like the plague.

The little business card like tag is to put inside the car. The paper plate with a big hand written expire date is to display from the rear window inside.

Considering i'm running 35% all around, we'll just be ridin dirty for a few more days :burnrubber:

Can I ask why you backed out? You seem to be the second one in here who walked away at Chico.

I live about 3.5 hours away, and my dad and I got the option of getting a car with less options on it and with 0 miles on the odometer (even though it starts at 1) and we get to wash and detail the car ourselves..we also didn't want the paint protection on the hood, the rear bumper appliqué nor the BeSpoke unit.

If we didn't get the option of getting a *technically* base FR-S we would've bought that one in Chico despite the medium-long drive. They were selling it to us for MSRP, with no aftermarket stuff. We had the car on hold and were supposed to pick it up last Friday but last Thursday my dad got the option of our preferred FR-S.

If we did buy the one in Chico, we would've peeled the protection film and bumper appliqué off. And the bespoke would've been useless. We'd rather wait a little longer than spend $1500 on options we don't like.

I believe that the Whiteout is still available. There might be 2...one has around 185 miles from a dealer trade, and the other one with 10 miles we were going to get.

I was dropping off my car at Hayward Toyota for the CEL issue and I saw a Raven 6MT for sale for $29XXX. I only glance at it so I dont know what options are installed.

I think the one you were looking has been sold and they have a new Whiteout, I haven't stopped by to see if it's a manual or auto.

Today visit DMV, easy! No trouble but need to go back to provide the smog cert and real CO registration to complete it. Here is a summary:

1. Yes, need to do a smog check, even the car is brand new. Say $50.
2. No re-smog every 2 years. It is a 5 years after this one, just like any new car.
3. Pay a $292 CA registration fee, just like buying in CA. Registration starting today. So It make sense to use the CO temp registration to the last day, because I walk out with a CA temp registration with today's date.
4. CA Sales tax collected in CO is all credited. My CO dealer hit me with Santa Clara rate, so I owe nothing. Otherwise pay the difference. Will end up the same anyway.
5. The CO RTD tax for 1.1% collected, it is paid to CO, no refund, no credit. $310 is wasted.
6. The CO title / license Fee collected and paid to CO, $267 is another waste, cannot credit to CA fee.
7. Misc: Waiting for the car for a 1 week or so after paid....(say cost $100 on car payment?)
8. Take my time off from work to wait in line in DMV...(pay rate @??)

My car is MSRP shipped. The fee wasted is about $727 in the process of bringing in the car. I would say I will go for MSRP + $1000 if there is a car available in CA, if I can go back and do this again. (It does not means I agree with this MSRP + practice)

(Bonus: I can go back to CA dealer and refund the lemon car if the CEL issue pop up and cannot be fix. Now I only limit to warranty repair.)

:bonk:

Diablo has a Galaxy Blue manual limited now going for MSRP plus standard fees.

it is gone. the "standard fees" had a 1k markup as well.:confused0068:

I turn down a Mt dgm at stevens creek, I guess Mt is not for me.
I would either pop the cluch or stall, considering I live in sf n all if buy guess ill go at.

salesman called me from Fremont Toyota/Scion yesterday, left me a vm... said an FR-S was available. Since my BRZ is about to make its way to me I didn't call him back, so I don't know any details on color, trans, price...

Is it here? Or did you just give up your spot?:drool:

What is the mark up on this? How much over MSRP.

The car should still be there at stevens creek, I pop the clutch twice n next thing I knewi was already over speed limit, Ian not the best stick driver so i either stall or pop the clutch, all in all I gave up maybe a bit too easy but maybe Ian just getting old.

Ian going to order a XV Crosstrek in CVT today n join the norm.

Is that means "mark up" the price is now a "standard"? :mad0260:

I was at Stevens Creek just now and saw your car. They want $3000 Markup :confused0068:

I wonder if you could have transferred it to someone here.

My search continues.... :scared0016:

again, I know it's not in CA, this dealer is in CO, but at the moment Heuberger has SIX BRZs available coming soon it looks like... assortment of colors and options. And they can ship it anywhere in the US. they sell below MSRP. Ask for Karen in the Internet Dept.

http://www.heubergermotors.com/new-i...ventoryListing


I just signed my paperwork this weekend which was super simple - they FedExed it to me, I signed it and sent it right back with the provided FedEx envelope. Easiest car buying transaction I've ever had. My car arrived in CO on Thursday, I should receive my car here sometime this next week.

Just trying to help others get the car they want. Doesn't seem like shopping the Bay Area dealers will get you a car anytime soon (without markup).

Congrats on finally scooping up your car :thumbup:.. I will echo these comments... This is the way to get a BRZ to CA within a month end to end without BS CA markups or add ons.. Once the car has landed in CO its basically 2-3 days paperwork and then a 4 day transport wait to your doorstep ($600). HB use's a good truck company, but try to ask for the front placement (I got lucky as the car wasn't protected or wrapped anymore).