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DAEMANO 02-13-2015 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l0aded (Post 2130598)
I think I know why there's confusion. I just opened up the e85 map and it has FFS set to a 1000 by default. I'm assuming you are always on e85 now huh lol.



Yup :)

BadHabit 02-15-2015 11:39 AM

Updated the Google Sheet. See below dyno images!
Thanks again @shif7i7down.

http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRSonDyno1.JPG

http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRSonDyno2.JPG

http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRSonDyno3.JPG

Stock with K@N Vs. OFT Tune
http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRS_StockVsOFTtune.JPG

Stock with K@N Vs. ESC & OFT Tune
Note: A/F didn't seem to jive with what was seen in car and on other runs. Still need to compare to the OFT logs.
http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRS_...SC_OFTtune.JPG

Stock with K@N Vs. ESC turned off & OFT Tune
http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRS_StockVsESCoff.JPG

Had to wrap up so took some quick pics. Plan to update with better images.

OFH UEL is now installed and plan on going back to the Dyno in a couple weeks.

raven1231 02-15-2015 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadHabit (Post 2133203)
Updated the Google Sheet. See below dyno images!
Thanks again @shif7i7down.

http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRSonDyno1.JPG

http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRSonDyno2.JPG

http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRSonDyno3.JPG

Stock with K@N Vs. OFT Tune
http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRS_StockVsOFTtune.JPG

Stock with K@N Vs. ESC & OFT Tune
Note: A/F didn't seem to jive with what was seen in car and on other runs. Still need to compare to the OFT logs.
http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRS_...SC_OFTtune.JPG

Stock with K@N Vs. ESC turned off & OFT Tune
http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRS_StockVsESCoff.JPG

Had to wrap up so took some quick pics. Plan to update with better images.

OFH UEL is now installed and plan on going back to the Dyno in a couple weeks.

Bring some corn!

shif7i7down 02-15-2015 05:20 PM

Dang 209whp, impressive. I got 210 with e85. I bet when you go e85 its gonna be bad ass.

I'm willing to bet that with e85 and some sticky tires, your in the 13s easily

Target70 02-15-2015 08:50 PM

thanks for the pics. Now that DR is gone, It shows that we really need an ESC intake bypass. I would like to see it in a single valve, but I think 3 separate 1" 1 way valves, running between the metal sleeve that ties the esc to the throttle body, to the connector between the esc and the intake box would really alleviate the drag in off boost situations. Now that I have gotten a lot more time with the system, I have noticed that DR kicks on for me all the time. A bypass would really help with our already weak mid throttle power.

I can't really find any larger valves, but this is kind of neat. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG6own141z0"]How To Make a One-Way Check Valve - For Cheap!! - YouTube[/ame] maybe one large enough to fit a ping pong ball would flow well enough, or two/three smaller ones. I am just stuck on how to tap onto either the metal sleeve and/or the silicone coupler.

DAEMANO 02-16-2015 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadHabit (Post 2133203)
Updated the Google Sheet. See below dyno images!
Thanks again @shif7i7down.

Stock with K@N Vs. OFT Tune
Stock with K@N Vs. ESC & OFT Tune
Note: A/F didn't seem to jive with what was seen in car and on other runs. Still need to compare to the OFT logs.
Stock with K@N Vs. ESC turned off & OFT Tune
Had to wrap up so took some quick pics. Plan to update with better images.
OFH UEL is now installed and plan on going back to the Dyno in a couple weeks.



209 without a header or e85 is solid. Great post man.

shif7i7down 02-16-2015 05:14 PM

all this on a ots canned tuned! I bet @shiv can probably squeeze out another 15+whp if anyone is willing to pay for an etune.

Shiv@Openflash 02-16-2015 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadHabit (Post 2133203)
Updated the Google Sheet. See below dyno images!
Thanks again @shif7i7down.

http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRSonDyno1.JPG

http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRSonDyno2.JPG

http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRSonDyno3.JPG

Stock with K@N Vs. OFT Tune
http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRS_StockVsOFTtune.JPG

Stock with K@N Vs. ESC & OFT Tune
Note: A/F didn't seem to jive with what was seen in car and on other runs. Still need to compare to the OFT logs.
http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRS_...SC_OFTtune.JPG

Stock with K@N Vs. ESC turned off & OFT Tune
http://jlturbo.com/pics/FRS_FTP/FRS_StockVsESCoff.JPG

Had to wrap up so took some quick pics. Plan to update with better images.

OFH UEL is now installed and plan on going back to the Dyno in a couple weeks.

Great results. With the OFH installed you'll pick up some good power on top of that.

We are also 2-3 weeks away from having our Procede ESC controllers ready :)

DAEMANO 02-16-2015 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2134755)
Great results. With the OFH installed you'll pick up some good power on top of that.

We are also 2-3 weeks away from having our Procede ESC controllers ready :)



Definitely let us know about this. Thanks Shiv.

Sojhinn 02-16-2015 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2134755)
Great results. With the OFH installed you'll pick up some good power on top of that.

We are also 2-3 weeks away from having our Procede ESC controllers ready :)


Let us know what we need to do.

Shiv@Openflash 02-16-2015 07:08 PM

Absolutely guys. I'll be looking for a ESC equipped Frs/BRZ to visit us for testing in a few weeks. Should only take a few hours. Anyone?

Sojhinn 02-16-2015 07:09 PM

Phantom FTS Electric Supercharger Owners Thread
 
What weekend? I might be able to. @Shiv@Openflash

raven1231 02-16-2015 07:11 PM

So jealous

Shiv@Openflash 02-16-2015 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sojhinn (Post 2134899)
What weekend? I might be able to. @Shiv@Openflash

I'll need to wait until our production run is ready. So that is probably 2 weeks out. So the weekend after that would be great! I'll let you know when I get them in my hands :)

Lonewolf 02-16-2015 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2134897)
Absolutely guys. I'll be looking for a ESC equipped Frs/BRZ to visit us for testing in a few weeks. Should only take a few hours. Anyone?

Would you like me to add your need to the R&D thread?

DAEMANO 02-16-2015 09:38 PM

Yep, I could probably caravan up north if there's a need. LMK. @Sojhinn

Sojhinn 02-16-2015 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2135092)
Yep, I could probably caravan up north if there's a need. LMK. @Sojhinn


2 is better than one. What do you think @Shiv@Openflash ?

TM 02-17-2015 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2134897)
Absolutely guys. I'll be looking for a ESC equipped Frs/BRZ to visit us for testing in a few weeks. Should only take a few hours. Anyone?

Ugh, I'm living in SF now, but my BRZ is staying in NY until May:thumbdown:

FingR-S 02-17-2015 03:51 PM

Shiv, I'm just across the bay and running the 1.5 ESC + aux charger. Let me know!


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MagicBobert 02-17-2015 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2134897)
Absolutely guys. I'll be looking for a ESC equipped Frs/BRZ to visit us for testing in a few weeks. Should only take a few hours. Anyone?

I'm in Sunnyvale. My BRZ is in the body shop until the end of the week, but as soon as I get it back I have one of Rob's most recent ESC kits waiting to go on the car. :)

07jazzrs5gt86 02-17-2015 06:30 PM

Seems like theres alot of volunteers for testing the process but I'll offer my car as well
Shiv let me know also about the procede testing when you ready.
I also have a 1.5 kit with aux charger and about 30mins out from you
Thanks

raven1231 02-17-2015 06:31 PM

shiv don't have an esc but I'll test your new turbo kit :)

Shiv@Openflash 02-17-2015 07:16 PM

Hi guys,
I'll certainly give preference to beta testers that are local. That allows me to spend a bit more time with the cars and track them more closely. So I'll post up again when I have Procede's in stock and ready to install. It would be great to have a few local cars beta testing in parallel for a week or so before we launch it for everyone else. I'm quite confident that there is nothing "beta" about it. But it's nice to play it safe :)

Sojhinn 02-17-2015 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2136503)
Hi guys,
I'll certainly give preference to beta testers that are local. That allows me to spend a bit more time with the cars and track them more closely. So I'll post up again when I have Procede's in stock and ready to install. It would be great to have a few local cars beta testing in parallel for a week or so before we launch it for everyone else. I'm quite confident that there is nothing "beta" about it. But it's nice to play it safe :)


Looks like we are out. :D

But I look forward to playing with it later!

godzuki 02-18-2015 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Target70 (Post 2133636)
thanks for the pics. Now that DR is gone, It shows that we really need an ESC intake bypass. I would like to see it in a single valve, but I think 3 separate 1" 1 way valves, running between the metal sleeve that ties the esc to the throttle body, to the connector between the esc and the intake box would really alleviate the drag in off boost situations. Now that I have gotten a lot more time with the system, I have noticed that DR kicks on for me all the time. A bypass would really help with our already weak mid throttle power.

I can't really find any larger valves, but this is kind of neat. How To Make a One-Way Check Valve - For Cheap!! - YouTube maybe one large enough to fit a ping pong ball would flow well enough, or two/three smaller ones. I am just stuck on how to tap onto either the metal sleeve and/or the silicone coupler.

Friend sent me this link to look into, thought you might find it interesting:

http://www.shelbycsx.com/csx321/buildup/dvalve.htm

Namuna 02-18-2015 05:31 PM

2 questions:

1. What is this Procede ESC Controller that Shiv is talking about? I Google'd it and what I found is that it will basically electronically control the boost from 0-100% within a certain RPM range (instead of it being just either on or off). Is this right?

2. Is there anyone that has (or had) the Crawford BPBs installed when you got your ESC? Did you keep the BPBs, are you still happy with the results? Or did you uninstall the BPBs?

I have the BPBs and from what I read a few pages back is that they'll actually LOWER the overall power curve vs not having them...Except for a small gap between 6,000-6,500rpm, which you actually get a little boost, but that defeats the purpose of gaining the power at the low-end for me in the first place.

I'm just trying to figure out if there's enough of a power loss to justify the cost/effort to get rid of the BPBs.

Thanks.

continuecrushing 02-18-2015 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namuna (Post 2138019)
2 questions:
1. What is this Procede ESC Controller that Shiv is talking about? I Google'd it and what I found is that it will basically electronically control the boost from 0-100% within a certain RPM range (instead of it being just either on or off). Is this right?

2. Is there anyone that has (or had) the Crawford BPBs installed when you got your ESC? Did you keep the BPBs, are you still happy with the results? Or did you uninstall the BPBs?

I have the BPBs and from what I read a few pages back is that they'll actually LOWER the overall power curve vs not having them...Except for a small gap between 6,000-6,500rpm, which you actually get a little boost, but that defeats the purpose of gaining the power at the low-end for me in the first place.

I'm just trying to figure out if there's enough of a power loss to justify the cost/effort to get rid of the BPBs.

1. yes. So you could have 10% boost at 10% throttle, 20% boost at 20% throttle so on and so on. But, you can tune it to your liking. 40% boost at 75% throttle etc. Have complete control over when you have boost, to make the car behave more like n/a...but with a lot more power haha.

Once its release there will be a lot more info.

2. The BPB's don't help out much, unless your N/A. If you have an ESC, I'd probably sell the BPB

l0aded 02-18-2015 10:18 PM

Exciting times. Any word on ballpark pricing for the procede controller?

07jazzrs5gt86 02-26-2015 08:58 AM

For those who is running e85
Few days ago I finally switched to e85
First thing I notice on 1st tank is response is pretty good and noticeable vs 91 pump but the culprit is cold start is a problem. Those couples days is roughly 60-70 f degree and seems like the car is struggling to start/fire up. Even when the engine turn it'll have a few blimps/hiccup before it actually started.
I know there's a simple fix to it as to add 1-2 gallon of 91 before fill with e85 but I wonder are there's anything else I can do like changing the crank values on the ESC e85 map?
Now I'm on my second tank and wooooow this corn juice is just amazing the car felt much stronger before ESC and after ESC is just simply fantastic. Just this morning I out run a 2013-2015 mustang v6 by a car length and I was shock how this thing is accelerating now

Sojhinn 02-26-2015 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07jazzrs5gt86 (Post 2147886)
For those who is running e85
Few days ago I finally switched to e85
First thing I notice on 1st tank is response is pretty good and noticeable vs 91 pump but the culprit is cold start is a problem. Those couples days is roughly 60-70 f degree and seems like the car is struggling to start/fire up. Even when the engine turn it'll have a few blimps/hiccup before it actually started.
I know there's a simple fix to it as to add 1-2 gallon of 91 before fill with e85 but I wonder are there's anything else I can do like changing the crank values on the ESC e85 map?
Now I'm on my second tank and wooooow this corn juice is just amazing the car felt much stronger before ESC and after ESC is just simply fantastic. Just this morning I out run a 2013-2015 mustang v6 by a car length and I was shock how this thing is accelerating now


Simple fix like you said is add a gallon of 91. As for modifying the tune: @Shiv@Openflash

Gums 03-01-2015 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2125501)
I've been running the new computer controlled set up in a customer's Miata for a couple weeks now. No issues at all to report. It's pretty awesome actually :)

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=567709

Hi Shiv, a couple of questions if I may, prompted by your post on the miata forum.

1) From your comment "I wouldn't bother upgrading to the new lightweight compressor updated controller." are you saying that the procede will adapt to both the single and 2 stage throttle switch versions of the controller or are some modifications required?

2) "the Airflow Straightener. It's is HIGHLY recommended." will their be an airflow straightener for the 86?:)

Sojhinn 03-09-2015 05:32 PM

Hopefully, whoever hooks up with shiv has the 2.0 setup. It just makes sense to setup the system with the latest retail release.

Sojhinn 03-17-2015 09:27 AM

@Shiv@Openflash any news on the procede front? Anything we can do to help? (I noticed on the Miata forums you are waiting for the enclosures)

l0aded 04-09-2015 07:00 PM

Feel like this is a good thread to bring back that is more focused on the people who have the ESC rather than the tons of people asking if they are on the wait list.

I just wanted to share my recent experience where I somehow snagged the power wire (the one that goes into the driver's fuse box) off of the voltbox reader. The wire is only connected by a drop of solder so it is not difficult to remove. From here everything that went wrong could have. In order to receive a brand new wire harness and voltbox it would have been 75 dollars with no guarantee it would work unless I sent in my controller so I decided to attempt the fix myself.

Having a solder kit I decided to take off the box to bring it in and resolder the connection. When pulling off the 3.5 aux cable out of the voltbox, it got stuck somehow and would not release. Eventually I managed to take it out, bring it inside, resolder the connection, reconnect it to the car and for some reason it did not work. Upon further investigation, the female side had broken when I pulled the 3.5mm out of it. At this point I remade the whole voltbox with a new 1/8" audio TRS connector (the female connector side) and tried again. This time when plugging it in the solder immediately started to melt and the wire intensely hot. Luckily I managed to unplug it after half a second and only the wire was damaged since the rubber insulation melted. Turns out the insulation on the MALE side of the 3.5mm cable had broken as well when the wire got caught and shorted.

After all this I got Rob's input on what wires do what in order to reconstruct the entire harness and fix the ESC. I'm a mechanical engineer but have electrical knowledge so was able to fix everything but I would not recommend someone attempt to fix it if they are unsure of what they are doing. The electrical systems have a ton of energy and can easily hurt yourself or your car.

After losing the ESC for a few days I am greatly appreciative of having it again. The car feels incredibly slow without it, especially since it creates drag at the high end when the ESC is not active.

So key takeaways:
1. Be very careful when debugging issues with the system.
2. I recommend taping or putting a drop of glue where the voltbox power wire comes out of, the connection is not the best and can pull out easily.
3. Be careful when messing with the voltbox as the parts are fairly cheap and can easily break.
4. For users: Consider an in-line fuse on that 24V wire going from the controller to the voltbox. For Rob: maybe in future revisions assuming Procede doesn't completely phase it out

Robftss 04-10-2015 11:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by l0aded (Post 2206731)
Feel like this is a good thread to bring back that is more focused on the people who have the ESC rather than the tons of people asking if they are on the wait list.

I just wanted to share my recent experience where I somehow snagged the power wire (the one that goes into the driver's fuse box) off of the voltbox reader. The wire is only connected by a drop of solder so it is not difficult to remove. From here everything that went wrong could have. In order to receive a brand new wire harness and voltbox it would have been 75 dollars with no guarantee it would work unless I sent in my controller so I decided to attempt the fix myself.

Having a solder kit I decided to take off the box to bring it in and resolder the connection. When pulling off the 3.5 aux cable out of the voltbox, it got stuck somehow and would not release. Eventually I managed to take it out, bring it inside, resolder the connection, reconnect it to the car and for some reason it did not work. Upon further investigation, the female side had broken when I pulled the 3.5mm out of it. At this point I remade the whole voltbox with a new 1/8" audio TRS connector (the female connector side) and tried again. This time when plugging it in the solder immediately started to melt and the wire intensely hot. Luckily I managed to unplug it after half a second and only the wire was damaged since the rubber insulation melted. Turns out the insulation on the MALE side of the 3.5mm cable had broken as well when the wire got caught and shorted.

After all this I got Rob's input on what wires do what in order to reconstruct the entire harness and fix the ESC. I'm a mechanical engineer but have electrical knowledge so was able to fix everything but I would not recommend someone attempt to fix it if they are unsure of what they are doing. The electrical systems have a ton of energy and can easily hurt yourself or your car.

After losing the ESC for a few days I am greatly appreciative of having it again. The car feels incredibly slow without it, especially since it creates drag at the high end when the ESC is not active.

So key takeaways:
1. Be very careful when debugging issues with the system.
2. I recommend taping or putting a drop of glue where the voltbox power wire comes out of, the connection is not the best and can pull out easily.
3. Be careful when messing with the voltbox as the parts are fairly cheap and can easily break.
4. For users: Consider an in-line fuse on that 24V wire going from the controller to the voltbox. For Rob: maybe in future revisions assuming Procede doesn't completely phase it out


Good to hear your DIY repair worked.

Voltbox,Fuse line, 11 lb block of steel.:)
Attachment 106758

Target70 04-10-2015 02:35 PM

Is your shop in a high g turn?

l0aded 04-14-2015 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robftss (Post 2207467)
Good to hear your DIY repair worked.

Voltbox,Fuse line, 11 lb block of steel.:)

I'm assuming it caught onto my leg or shoe when I got into the car which would put much more than 11 pounds if it stays fixed. I attach mine with 3M double sided tape so it stays on pretty good. Thanks again for your help with the DIY.

qitorr 04-15-2015 09:43 AM

Hi,
I have been following this ESC throughout its development and just recently signed up on the growing waitlist. It has been great to see the progress Rob and Shiv have made with the help of a passionate group of owners.

I had a question as I get ready. On the owners stats list I see some of you are running more extensive exhaust mods than others. I was looking at a JDL EUL header, Nameless OP/FP combo with highflow cat and resonator, and Q300 or something to keep the sound from being too loud. What I didn't know was how much of the gains from the header in particular are additive with the ESC. Either should get rid of the torque dip but how much could I expect the overall curve to move by the addition of the header? Thanks a bunch for any help you can give in keeping me busy while I wait these long upcoming months.

Quetzal

raven1231 04-15-2015 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qitorr (Post 2213464)
Hi,
I have been following this ESC throughout its development and just recently signed up on the growing waitlist. It has been great to see the progress Rob and Shiv have made with the help of a passionate group of owners.

I had a question as I get ready. On the owners stats list I see some of you are running more extensive exhaust mods than others. I was looking at a JDL EUL header, Nameless OP/FP combo with highflow cat and resonator, and Q300 or something to keep the sound from being too loud. What I didn't know was how much of the gains from the header in particular are additive with the ESC. Either should get rid of the torque dip but how much could I expect the overall curve to move by the addition of the header? Thanks a bunch for any help you can give in keeping me busy while I wait these long upcoming months.

Quetzal

Header I think adds maybe 10hp when coupled with the ESC. Nothing crazy to be honest, sound great though.

Sojhinn 04-15-2015 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qitorr (Post 2213464)
Hi,
I have been following this ESC throughout its development and just recently signed up on the growing waitlist. It has been great to see the progress Rob and Shiv have made with the help of a passionate group of owners.

I had a question as I get ready. On the owners stats list I see some of you are running more extensive exhaust mods than others. I was looking at a JDL EUL header, Nameless OP/FP combo with highflow cat and resonator, and Q300 or something to keep the sound from being too loud. What I didn't know was how much of the gains from the header in particular are additive with the ESC. Either should get rid of the torque dip but how much could I expect the overall curve to move by the addition of the header? Thanks a bunch for any help you can give in keeping me busy while I wait these long upcoming months.

Quetzal


It also smooths out the hp curve and has some gains through the mid range.

The header will also make your exhaust extremely loud during cold starts. Make sure to snag an exhaust that will mellow out the noise. I have the q300 with the high flow cat in the front pipe and I think it's the perfect balance of sound.


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