Originally Posted by Ryan86 (Post 1916916)

@African I meant no disrespect in my comment and apologise if I've jacked your thread, purely just shared info, as it was asked.

Reality is we are achieving these gains on NA. An 86 at 133 wkw 202 Nm is causing havoc with the hot hatch turbos here on the coast, even out running tuned G6 & 7, ST. Before anyone posts :bs: videos and comments on Ford and VW forums chatting how a certain NA 86 is out launching and rolling them. I'm certainly not saying NA is faster than a turbo, but for a fraction of the cost trying to Supercharge or Turbo a 86, guys can now know there are ways of getting a NA 86 to acceptable power and having fun with with there car.

That's all I got to say about that

Originally Posted by Scarl3t (Post 1916989)

I like it, thanks Ryan.
When is the Speed & Sound issue with your beast as a featured car hitting the shelf, also please post some pics, i've kinde seen a pic where you have installed the GT86 wing on RMS Facebook page, would like to see what els you've been up to,

regards
a.k.a V3rgil

Originally Posted by Ryan86 (Post 1917051)

You have been quiet, move back up to JHB?
I'm not sure what S&S are going to do, we did a photo shoot, await and see.

Here shots from S&S at Top Gear show.

Originally Posted by African (Post 1917089)

Gents


No sweat but let's compare apples to apples ...... run a std 86 with say 95 octane on a dyna ....do a ECU tweak and then compare with same elevation and ambient temp. That will give a max gain of 5-6% at specific revs.


If you flash and add octane booster, change air intakes and do headers and exhaust .... it's not a true comparison.


Let's be real ..... Std n/a is 147 kW with normal variations could be 4% up or down but let's work on 147kW at sea level.


Transmission eats 25% roughly so you will see about on wheels of 110kW.


Jhb is more fun .... that quoted 147kW is now 18% less ...... so flywheel bhp is 121 kW and then transmission takes 25% ...... 91 kW on rear wheels.


But it doesn't stop there ... Japs are known to quote flywheel bhp without any aux on whilst Germans quote with all alternator and aux connected ....so your 147kW may not be a real 147kW on flywheel after alternator and such are connected.


Add a air intake ..... fiddle ECU and you tell me you have 139kW power on wheels at sea level ....flywheel power has jumped to 185kW. Now that is an engineering BS story of note.


As for let's put it on the dyna and see ...sounds very much like women taking relationship advice from Cosmo. Unless you have a verifiable standard calibration to compare it too, your dyna graph means jack squat.


But if it make you feels good, go for it!! Science does not back your claims but WTF, it's your wheels :D

Originally Posted by Dammod (Post 1917133)

(By the way, to "fiddle" with the ECU you need to "flash" it regardless. Just mentioning this because in you first paragraph you referring to "tweaking" then in the second you use the word "flash" as if it adds more power. Any "tweaks" you do needs to be "flashed to the ECU.)

Originally Posted by Td-d (Post 1917142)

Actually, you can - that's the whole point of a piggyback device, like the unichip. The device effectively hijacks the signals from the various sensors to the ecu (on the harness) and alters the signal (voltage, current, etc.) that the ecu sees (through manipulation via software). You are not flashing the ecu.

Not my choice of tuning, but can be used effectively, like blunt force trauma ;)

Originally Posted by African (Post 1917089)

Gents


No sweat but let's compare apples to apples ...... run a std 86 with say 95 octane on a dyna ....do a ECU tweak and then compare with same elevation and ambient temp. That will give a max gain of 5-6% at specific revs.


If you flash and add octane booster, change air intakes and do headers and exhaust .... it's not a true comparison.


Let's be real ..... Std n/a is 147 kW with normal variations could be 4% up or down but let's work on 147kW at sea level.


Transmission eats 25% roughly so you will see about on wheels of 110kW.


Jhb is more fun .... that quoted 147kW is now 18% less ...... so flywheel bhp is 121 kW and then transmission takes 25% ...... 91 kW on rear wheels.


But it doesn't stop there ... Japs are known to quote flywheel bhp without any aux on whilst Germans quote with all alternator and aux connected ....so your 147kW may not be a real 147kW on flywheel after alternator and such are connected.


Add a air intake ..... fiddle ECU and you tell me you have 139kW power on wheels at sea level ....flywheel power has jumped to 185kW. Now that is an engineering BS story of note.


As for let's put it on the dyna and see ...sounds very much like women taking relationship advice from Cosmo. Unless you have a verifiable standard calibration to compare it too, your dyna graph means jack squat.


But if it make you feels good, go for it!! Science does not back your claims but WTF, it's your wheels :D