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epifan 03-23-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 805124)
@epifan

Anyone figured how to do pure speed density with this yet?

We have been working on that function next now that the LC + FFS are functional. Please watch for updates in the coming weeks.

subaruferrucci 04-01-2013 11:31 AM

not sure if this has been asked or not but is this reconized by the dealer as a reflash or not?

jamesm 04-01-2013 11:37 AM

i'm not sure how the dealer would detect a flash, but i know that since brzedit is based on ecuedit, it should not lock the ecu from further pulling/flashing the way that some other tools (ecutek and accessport) do. i'm not sure if a dealer can detect it, but it should be more transparent than the ones that lock the rom.

ft_sjo 04-14-2013 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by epifan (Post 813497)
We have been working on that function next now that the LC + FFS are functional. Please watch for updates in the coming weeks.

Any update on this? As soon as proper speed density is available I'll be purchasing!

Wonderbar 04-24-2013 03:26 AM

Updates? I'm very interested. Already haven't tactrix and a spare AEM UEGO

mad_sb 04-25-2013 06:00 PM

FFS and Launch Control were released for Personal Edition this week.
@Wonderbar, you won't need the UEGO unless you go F.I. the factory sensor is a wide range sensor that reads from 12.1 up to 18:1 so you have plenty of room for tuning NA using the factory sensor.

Wonderbar 04-25-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mad_sb (Post 891290)
FFS and Launch Control were released for Personal Edition this week.
@Wonderbar, you won't need the UEGO unless you go F.I. the factory sensor is a wide range sensor that reads from 12.1 up to 18:1 so you have plenty of room for tuning NA using the factory sensor.

That's exactly why I need the uego... :)

I plan on s/c by the end of the year.

jamesm 04-25-2013 07:06 PM

So the last big thing needed to match ecutek feature for feature is map switching. Is there a solution for that yet?

Visconti 04-25-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mad_sb (Post 891290)
FFS and Launch Control were released for Personal Edition this week.
@Wonderbar, you won't need the UEGO unless you go F.I. the factory sensor is a wide range sensor that reads from 12.1 up to 18:1 so you have plenty of room for tuning NA using the factory sensor.

This car is equipped with a narrow band sensor.. Not wideband

NickFRS 04-25-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mad_sb (Post 891290)
FFS and Launch Control were released for Personal Edition this week.
@Wonderbar, you won't need the UEGO unless you go F.I. the factory sensor is a wide range sensor that reads from 12.1 up to 18:1 so you have plenty of room for tuning NA using the factory sensor.

@epifan

I have BRZedit tune but it's through a licensed tuner. Would that mean I don't get it?

mad_sb 04-26-2013 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 891478)
This car is equipped with a narrow band sensor.. Not wideband

The primary 02 sensor is a denso Planar Type Wide Range Air Fuel Sensor. It does not read as far on the rich side as a true wideband (10:1 to 20:1) but it is more than sufficient range for NA tuning (12.1 - 18).

King Tut 04-26-2013 01:05 PM

I would call the OEM sensor a narrow wide band sensor, haha. Any chance one of the BRZedit users could make a video of doing things in BRZedit? Like simply showing how you open a ROM change something in the fuel or igntion tables, save the ROM, and flash the ECU.

arghx7 04-26-2013 01:25 PM

I agree that the OEM front O2 sensor, the limiting-current type Denso A/F sensor, does not have the same range as a Bosch LSU pump-cell type. For applications where you don't need to go super rich (basically, non-boosted) it will still read accurately. Now if the front o2 sensor output the same style signal as the rear o2 sensor (oscillating 0-1v), then you could easily call them both narrowbands.

Use the right tool for the job, that's all.

ft_sjo 04-26-2013 04:54 PM

They're normally referred to as a 'lean burn' sensor, with much more resolution and range on the leaner side of stoich. Similar to the NTK L1H1 type stuff.

Z0rr0 05-19-2013 04:28 AM

Updates?

Deepseadiver 05-26-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Z0rr0 (Post 944993)
Updates?

Anything new?

Sing4LTS 07-03-2013 02:04 PM

Anything yet on map switching?

regal 08-03-2013 01:03 PM

Anyone know if you can you upgrade from lite to personal at a later date for $300?

Sithspawn 08-03-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by regal (Post 1115781)
Anyone know if you can you upgrade from lite to personal at a later date for $300?

I would imagine so. I asked them if I would be able to upgrade from the personal edition to the pro edition later on for the difference in price and they said yes.

Cross 09-13-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by seven (Post 632141)
Very interesting in seeing this.
Coming from the LSx land where you can pick up HPTuners suite and a cable for $450ish and tune yourself... ECUTek seems overpriced to me, costs almost $1000 by the time your done and all you can do then is load a tune, meh.
I can't wait to see how open source comes along for this.

You nailed it, EcuTek comes off as a "We are amazing no one can do this!" yet it is nothing more than another tuning option with someone controlling the tunes and not sharing with the community then charging around a 1000 for something that should cost around 450-600 depending on options.

HPTuners is open to Ford, GM and Dodge although mainly popular on GM Vehicles. Both the 450 and 600 kits come with 10 credits and credits cost 49.99 each. It takes 2 credits to tune so you get the ability to tune multiple platforms and cars as well as enough tunes out the door from the start to do 5 cars.
You can find information, base maps hell they have a tune repository so you can learn and the software is available for free so you can have a look before buying the cable and licensing it.

To come from that and see EcuTek it just makes me shake my head and wait for someone like this to come forward and provide a solution not centered on taking advantage of its users in such a manor. It may be great for these vehicles but raping your users over the coals and acting like your tunes are so amazing they are worth over 400-600 dollars?

With HP Tuners I can get a Dyno tune for a fully built vehicle be it N/A, Nitrous, Boosted you name it for 350-450 with the dyno price and that's with one of the best tuners in the country. What the hell makes these other tuners who are sending mail order tunes basically worth so much?! Its flat out just taking advantage of the situation.

Frankly the more I read the more I see this is the solution for those of us who want to tune our own vehicles and share. Because of that this will probably be the direction I choose to go for E85 should I continue to get no answers on the Unichip.

brzEdit 09-17-2013 01:08 AM

Update: Pricing has been adjusted for Personal $249usd & $175usd for Lite Version. Personal Version now allows direct file sharing between peers.

vgi 09-17-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by brzEdit (Post 1216479)
Update: Pricing has been adjusted for Personal $249usd & $175usd for Lite Version. Personal Version now allows direct file sharing between peers.

are you going to update the web soon - http://brzedit.com/index.php/2013-01-22-04-55-54

Z0rr0 09-17-2013 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brzEdit (Post 721209)
Yes: map axis are scalable in software
Yes: load axis can be scaled to higher levels

MAF senor scaling table is available to help with adding turbocharger or supercharger. MAP sensor scaling not available yet but is in progress.

Was the MAP sensor scaling ever put into place?
:paddle:

King Tut 09-17-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by brzEdit (Post 1216479)
Update: Pricing has been adjusted for Personal $249usd & $175usd for Lite Version. Personal Version now allows direct file sharing between peers.

Come up with a cheaper cable than the Tactrix 2.0 and you will really have something to compete with the new kid on the block.

jamesm 09-17-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1217294)
Come up with a cheaper cable than the Tactrix 2.0 and you will really have something to compete with the new kid on the block.

i second that. why limit it to tactrix? is it a dependency on their api or just business? you'd sell a lot more if i could use my $25 ebay cable.

coyote 09-17-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Z0rr0 (Post 1217252)
Was the MAP sensor scaling ever put into place?
:paddle:

Yes

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coyote 09-17-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1217294)
Come up with a cheaper cable than the Tactrix 2.0 and you will really have something to compete with the new kid on the block.

It can't work with a cheap arse cable and anyone who knows anything about Suburu ecus already has a 2.0 anyway.

They are different solutions. I can see the attraction of the tablet for canned tunes, but I wouldn't tune a car with it.


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King Tut 09-18-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by coyote (Post 1218135)
It can't work with a cheap arse cable and anyone who knows anything about Suburu ecus already has a 2.0 anyway.

They are different solutions. I can see the attraction of the tablet for canned tunes, but I wouldn't tune a car with it.

Now I have only been a Subaru guy for a little over a year now, but from talking to the guys with Tactrix 2.0 cables and Anthony @ Drunkmann Tuning they are still cheap arse cables, they just cost alot. Sounds like they tend to break rather easily. I agree that I would rather not be forced to have to tune on a laptop and then upload it to a tablet to then upload it to a car.

MFB 09-18-2013 11:26 AM

just take care of the mini usb. Helps to get an obd extension so you wont accidentally pull on the usb while tuning. For just logging, get a vagcom. My tactrix 2.0 is 4 years old this year, already soldered the pcb haha Got new ones though, 50 off from the good guys of tactrix.

dave- 01-20-2016 07:03 PM

Thread revival! Just grabbed the application. Got some previous SRF/BIN files I want to open in BRZedit. Can't open them obviously.

If I flash them with ecuflash, can I then read them with BRZedit to then play with? I'm sitting in my office and it isn't obvious that the software has a read mode like ecuflash that I'm used to.

Jaden 05-30-2016 10:12 PM

logging knock...
 
Is logging knock possible or not. I've seen where you can custom create logging parameters based off of roms, but I am not seeing where anyone is logging knock. I'd consider buying the software if I was sure that I could log knock.


Jaden

steve99 05-30-2016 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaden (Post 2666348)
Is logging knock possible or not. I've seen where you can custom create logging parameters based off of roms, but I am not seeing where anyone is logging knock. I'd consider buying the software if I was sure that I could log knock.


Jaden


BRZ edit software uses a tactrix cable to flash log, brzedit provides extensive logging capabilities including knock, so yes with brzedit software all the logging is sorted.


If you want to do the standalone logging to the SD card directly in tactrix with no laptop connected then yes you will need to know ram addresses ect, but not if using BRZEdit via laptop and tactrix.


http://www.epifansoft.com/brzEdit-video-tutorials.html

COO86L 06-01-2016 12:20 AM

Okay probably a many times asked question but can BRZedit support flexfuel yet? If it can, this will most likely be the product I will use for tuning. If not, I guess I have to suck up the cost of EcuTek and dealing under MRT Performance

Wayno 06-01-2016 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by COO86L (Post 2667436)
Okay probably a many times asked question but can BRZedit support flexfuel yet? If it can, this will most likely be the product I will use for tuning. If not, I guess I have to suck up the cost of EcuTek and dealing under MRT Performance

It's an editor and logger. It won't help you inject the required code in to the rom. That functionality will come from the opensource community, probably not for your D00G rom for a while though, only A01G and B01C have been tested afaik.

If you haven't made any investment yet, you're better off going with Delicious or Moto East, or see if Throttle Happy can do D00G.

COO86L 06-01-2016 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayno (Post 2667569)
It's an editor and logger. It won't help you inject the required code in to the rom. That functionality will come from the opensource community, probably not for your D00G rom for a while though, only A01G and B01C have been tested afaik.

If you haven't made any investment yet, you're better off going with Delicious or Moto East, or see if Throttle Happy can do D00G.

My code is A01G but currently I'm getting into tuning these cars and looking at which program is going to be best. I've used brzEdit and like it and the logger is amazing but flexfuel is something I want to be able to do also.

steve99 06-01-2016 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by COO86L (Post 2667570)
My code is A01G but currently I'm getting into tuning these cars and looking at which program is going to be best. I've used brzEdit and like it and the logger is amazing but flexfuel is something I want to be able to do also.



its pretty well going to come down to this

If you want to just tune/flash NA cars and maybe some turbo/SC stuff using standard factory ECU code ie no fancy stuff like launch/FFS or flex fuel map switch or overboost protection then get Brzedit even if its just for logging. As your going to need at least a reliable logger for the many rom types and brzedit or just an Ecutek cable kit will let you log any rom type without a licience in ecu.

Unless your an ECU disassembly and code guru then your completely at the mercy of the very few that are, for stuff like logging ram address and any code patches you need for the extra features. Most work in their spare time on what suits them or their car and they wont in general be keen to spend heaps of time for you on your stuff especially if your the one who is going to onsell the stuff and make money out of it.

Even if you do become proficient at coding and disassembly it will take many many hours to develop patches test them and then apply to the various roms. Once you start messing with the actual ecu code a single mistake can result in a bricked ECU, or unreliable or unpredictable performance on the vehicle.

Which pretty well leaves you with Ecutek if you want all the fancy stuff, reliable support for any bugs or if you somehow brick an ecu.

The Brzedit guy seems a bit hit and miss with support

freerunner 06-01-2016 10:55 AM

After purchasing brzedit you get two stock tunes, one has LC and FFS patches included.

renfield90 06-01-2016 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by freerunner (Post 2667718)
After purchasing brzedit you get two stock tunes, one has LC and FFS patches included.

Do you get the source code for those patches?

steve99 06-01-2016 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by freerunner (Post 2667718)
After purchasing brzedit you get two stock tunes, one has LC and FFS patches included.

Thanks, i asked the brzedit guy a few weeks ago but never heard anyhing back.

so are the lc\ffs patches available for all rom calid for all countries or just selected omes.

Are their any other enhancements like SD tuning or overboost ut etc. I asked the brzedit guy but no response.

freerunner 06-01-2016 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by renfield90 (Post 2668080)
Do you get the source code for those patches?

Nope. Do you mean 'source code', 'separate binary patch' or 'origin'?

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Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 2668276)
so are the lc\ffs patches available for all rom calid for all countries or just selected omes.

Are their any other enhancements like SD tuning or overboost ut etc. I asked the brzedit guy but no response.

Don't know if lc\ffs is available for the other calids. I read somewhere in their forums that all calids are 'fully-supported' as an answer to a guy, who asked for support of asian calids, if I remember correctly.

Didn't get one of the other calid roms to sniff around ;), probably because I have not bought a pro-license.

Have not found any tables for SD or overboost stuff, but didn't search for it. I'll take a look tomorrow.


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