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spin9k 11-16-2011 12:26 PM

It supposedly takes the tractor-like sound of the boxer engine and makes it sweet sounding by 'tuning' a port from the engine bay and bringing it into the cabin to 'adjust' the natural sound from the engine. (don't start, just my opinion on the sound after living with a sweet rotary note :))

old greg 11-16-2011 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spin9k (Post 76386)
don't start, just my opinion on the sound after living with a sweet rotary note :)


I won't argue with you. Hell, you should hear my car on cold mornings before it comes up to operating temp. It really does sound like freaking diesel tractor. :bellyroll:

Chokonen888 11-17-2011 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 76362)
I don't think they're fender kits. Based on the images it looks as though the fenders on the TRD version are different than the regular spec car.

LOL, and this is how rumors start....

I read Japanese and I don't see anywhere it says the headlights are not interchangeable or there are different fenders. There are a few "Fender Garnishes" being offered but that appears to be just a tack on piece that fits over the vent area on the fenders.

Longhorn248 11-17-2011 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chokonen888 (Post 76506)
LOL, and this is how rumors start....

I read Japanese and I don't see anywhere it says the headlights are not interchangeable or there are different fenders. There are a few "Fender Garnishes" being offered but that appears to be just a tack on piece that fits over the vent area on the fenders.

We're talking about the rear fenders, the fronts look pretty much the same to me...but maybe it's just the color of the cars and the lighting accents.

Chokonen888 11-17-2011 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 76509)
We're talking about the rear fenders, the fronts look pretty much the same to me...but maybe it's just the color of the cars and the lighting accents.

You're probably right about it just being the color/lighting. I can see how one might think they look different but there is no mention of front or rear fenders being different in the text. :iono:

Longhorn248 11-17-2011 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chokonen888 (Post 76514)
You're probably right about it just being the color/lighting. I can see how one might think they look different but there is no mention of front or rear fenders being different in the text. :iono:

I guess we'll find out in less than two weeks!

Chokonen888 11-17-2011 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 76516)
I guess we'll find out in less than two weeks!

Well if they were different I it would definitely be in this training manual so I doubt they are but as you said, well see. I Just hope they have this thing in the test drive area! Toyota is listed as having cars there...

DivZero 11-17-2011 02:12 AM

Toyota if you're reading, the following are things I absolutely want :

1. Track stripped model (the one without painted bumpers, nice wheels, no sun roof, etc)

2. Smaller steering wheel with same OEM functionality (i.e. 330mm)

3. Harness compatible seats

4. Dare I say TRD weld in roll cage? I think I just did.


I registered just to make these comments

Allch Chcar 11-17-2011 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla35 (Post 76213)
i just caught myself complaining that it's too blurry... then i realized, i don't know japanese anyways, so doesn't matter, lol.

the fender thing is forsure or implied?
I wish we could have an outline of options that could be filled in as people start to make out what it says. But then again, might be a waste since this is a JDM only manual I guess?

I can't read the staff manual. :cry:

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Originally Posted by oneday (Post 76312)
Does any of the literature discuss gear ratios? Trying to confirm what I read somewhere on the interwebs, that the FT86s 6MT was also from the IS250 (makes perfect sense)...if that is the case, here are the ratios and top speed in each gear:

1st: 3.79 / 39 mph
2nd: 2.28 / 66 mph
3rd: 1.52 / 98 mph
4th: 1.19 / 134 mph
5th: 1.00 / 150 mph
6th: 0.79 / 189 mph
(R: 3.47)
FD: 3.73

Nope. The IS250 uses a different gearbox. The one we suspect is similar to the JDM Altezza gearbox and is also used by Mazda and was used in the S15 and S2000.

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Originally Posted by DivZero (Post 76544)
Toyota if you're reading, the following are things I absolutely want :

1. Track stripped model (the one without painted bumpers, nice wheels, no sun roof, etc)

2. Smaller steering wheel with same OEM functionality (i.e. 330mm)

3. Harness compatible seats

4. Dare I say TRD weld in roll cage? I think I just did.


I registered just to make these comments


^Good post. :thumbsup:

Polish Person 11-17-2011 02:57 AM

I thought everyone was saying that the front fenders on the TRD were different as compared to the standard version of the car, but since someone a few posts up redirected me to the rear, it seems now that the TRD has the same rear fenders as the BRZ STi. Maybe it's just me, but the BRZ STi does have much more aggressive rear fenders, compared to the smooth FR-S/FT-86 ones, right?

Or has lighting been messing with the that hard this whole time.

Godzilla35 11-17-2011 06:19 AM

great... that's what I thought... what company making a $20K car has different fender options? I thought it was just lost in translation.

+1 on the BRZ statement ^above... The STI concept does seem to have more aggressive side / rear... but the front looks gross (imho). But then again, we're comparing a real / live concept car in HD picture and video... to a scanned / phone-photo tiny picture of a training manual ...

2 weeks more guys... then the cards will be on the table (hopefully every card - pricing, availability, international info, etc.)...

Matador 11-17-2011 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DivZero (Post 76544)
Toyota if you're reading, the following are things I absolutely want :

1. Track stripped model (the one without painted bumpers, nice wheels, no sun roof, etc)

2. Smaller steering wheel with same OEM functionality (i.e. 330mm)

3. Harness compatible seats

4. Dare I say TRD weld in roll cage? I think I just did.


I registered just to make these comments

Whoa, thanks for your amazing contribution.

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 76551)
Nope. The IS250 uses a different gearbox. The one we suspect is similar to the JDM Altezza gearbox and is also used by Mazda and was used in the S15 and S2000.

Yup. And Even if it did, it certainly wouldn't mean that it would use the same ratios.

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Originally Posted by Gardus (Post 76283)
I wouldn't fit TRD brakes anyway, too expensive and after all, I live 100 km or so from the Brembo factory near Milan...

I think we'll just need to fit better trackpads and maybe braided lines and high performance oil, the usual stuff.

One of the good thing of a light, not too powerful car is that it's light on brakes and tyres.
The Clio 3 RS with the same power and weight has the Brembo as standard by the way, so do other cars like the Cooper S JCW, the Grande Punto Abarth Essesse...
The stock "junior" Brembo 4 pots are becoming very popular and inexpensive.

Well not all of us have that luxury. That being said, can you stroll up and get factory discount prices on discs and Calipers? :D

st162celica 11-17-2011 08:41 AM

Page 19 ? depresses me ! They had to put a pic of the Toyota F1 car. Toyota why did you have to pull out of F1. Should never have given up. They were so close in their final year, the new f1 was already built. What makes it even worse that they would not let Stefan gp enter with Toyotas car as they knew it would win like brawn (Honda) in their first year. (can you tell I'm still not over it yet. Lol )

This last month of leaks has been the best ! Been drooling all over my iPad !

speed-wiz 11-17-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by st162celica (Post 76669)
Toyota why did you have to pull out of F1. Should never have given up.

:word:

Longhorn248 11-17-2011 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Polish Person (Post 76565)
I thought everyone was saying that the front fenders on the TRD were different as compared to the standard version of the car, but since someone a few posts up redirected me to the rear, it seems now that the TRD has the same rear fenders as the BRZ STi. Maybe it's just me, but the BRZ STi does have much more aggressive rear fenders, compared to the smooth FR-S/FT-86 ones, right?

Or has lighting been messing with the that hard this whole time.

I'm just glad that I'm not the only person seeing it. I thought I was going a little bit crazy with people chiming in that I'm just seeing things.

Crashoverride 11-17-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oneday (Post 76312)
Does any of the literature discuss gear ratios? Trying to confirm what I read somewhere on the interwebs, that the FT86s 6MT was also from the IS250 (makes perfect sense)...if that is the case, here are the ratios and top speed in each gear:

1st: 3.79 / 39 mph
2nd: 2.28 / 66 mph
3rd: 1.52 / 98 mph
4th: 1.19 / 134 mph
5th: 1.00 / 150 mph
6th: 0.79 / 189 mph
(R: 3.47)
FD: 3.73

:laughabove:

yeah but the speedo will only go to 160 in the FR-S meaning that the gearing is shorter which is fine... how often do you go 160?......Even in my Supra I think I have hit that once or twice ( I hit 175 once) at an oval track and to be honest it was scary as hell even though the car felt solid having fun at that speed is all in a stright line-ish, fun is traking a car and seeing what you can do with it at lower speeds:iono: again power is fun but what is the breaking point of top speed when you never get there, and all the fun is between 0-80ish....:burnrubber::scared0016:

r4m3n 11-17-2011 03:01 PM

What wheels are these?

http://mkimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/b...4280385/p1.jpg

KevinDuMa 11-17-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by r4m3n (Post 76801)

Have no clue they look like the wheels off the 370...honestly I think that picture is a render from the magazine company

pastuch 11-17-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gardus (Post 76240)
This is just great, the monkey on my shoulder has just got a lot heavier...

I hope the dash nav/radio is a standard 2 DIN, i'll just fit an Android-based unit, a OBD bluetooth thingy and have all the info about the engine, track logging, music and movies etc... and it will be AWESOME!

There's just too much to comment but about the weels, the 7.2 kg ones are 16"? What tyre size will they fit?

Gardus you read my mind... What android double din are you thinking about using?

Mr.Jay 11-17-2011 05:01 PM

deff looks like a mag rendering with 370z rims

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30115115@N03/3316753048/

Matador 11-17-2011 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by speed-wiz (Post 76685)
:word:

I still Believe the TF110 would have been their Brawn BGP-01 :(

Chokonen888 11-18-2011 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pastuch (Post 76822)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gardus http://www.ft86club.com/forums/image...s/viewpost.gif
This is just great, the monkey on my shoulder has just got a lot heavier...

I hope the dash nav/radio is a standard 2 DIN, i'll just fit an Android-based unit, a OBD bluetooth thingy and have all the info about the engine, track logging, music and movies etc... and it will be AWESOME!

There's just too much to comment but about the weels, the 7.2 kg ones are 16"? What tyre size will they fit?

Gardus you read my mind... What android double din are you thinking about using?

If you simply want standard 2 DIN, get the Subaru, the Toyota is most definitely the Toyota standard size that is wider than 2 DIN. I still have a JDM 200X OEM Toyota Navi lying around somewhere and was thinking to put it in but I recently read that the TV tuner in it won't work anymore since Japan went all digital. (and what's the point of it if the TV doesn't work?) Any of you US peoples want to buy a Navi? haha

Polish Person 11-18-2011 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 76692)
I'm just glad that I'm not the only person seeing it. I thought I was going a little bit crazy with people chiming in that I'm just seeing things.

Oh no. If it were the front end, then I'd say you're crazy, but the rear of the TRD is definitely sculpted and defined like the BRZ STi concept. The FR-S has no definition at all. It flows like a waterfall from C-pillar to rear wheel well.

NB86 11-21-2011 03:03 PM

What wheels are on the limited version that 500 will be sold, the one with the huge wing

Leeky 11-21-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NB86 (Post 78141)
What wheels are on the limited version that 500 will be sold, the one with the huge wing

There is no confirmation of a limited to 500 edition. Its all rumours at the moment. And as the cars havent officially been unveiled there is no concrete evidence on any of the wheels shown actualy being the ones that come with the road car.

NB86 11-22-2011 03:48 AM

Thx for the info leeky

quik1987 11-30-2011 03:27 PM

Why are there so many photos missing now

Hachiroku 11-30-2011 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by quik1987 (Post 84477)
Why are there so many photos missing now

These are all the images posted in this thread originally. Perhaps you're thinking of some of the other images/scans which may be posted in some of this forum's sticky threads?

sikse7en 11-30-2011 05:41 PM

regarding the rear fender, think it's just a more aggressive side skirt. there's a 'white' shadow to show it to be more aggressive than the base but think it's just for contrast with the silver.

IMO, think it's the same and TRD will just have a lip kit as always.

hwoalang 12-15-2011 06:14 PM

lol~~~ i hope thoese parts can make it to U.S...

jonfrs24 01-08-2012 04:08 PM

nice! lots of options!

a-spec 01-08-2012 05:17 PM

I wanna say : when will we be able to find it in english ? :sigh:

Xiao 01-10-2012 12:18 AM

:drool:dang...Definitely a great find!


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