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Rasputin1969 05-13-2018 07:38 PM

I have joined this forum. Not because I own an 86. But to gain more info or to share my experiences with Ecutek.
I currently own an Australian spec Subaru Levorg with the 2.0 litre DIT which is the same as in the current gen WRX.
I went the Ecutek route due to wanting an etune and it was one of the easiest way of achieving that with off the shelf items and software. Albeit a bit expensive.
After finding a tuner who was willing to take on the task after trying one who failed miserably. Things are beginning to progress nicely with my tune.
Due to the time difference of being in different countries we have refined our workflow quite well.
The Bluetooth dongle works brilliantly for this.
What we do.
1. Log using dongle.
2. Upload using phone to shared OneDrive folders
3. When a revised rom is available. I download from OneDrive to a laptop and flash the ecu.
4. Rinse and repeat.

No requirement for emails as we chat through messenger.

B T 07-19-2018 08:23 PM

My program failed due to faulty connection just after starting. I now have it reading consistently, but it tells me my license is consumed and cannot write the full tune into the car. Is there a way to salvage the license from a partially written ECM?

Tor 07-19-2018 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B T (Post 3112304)
My program failed due to faulty connection just after starting. I now have it reading consistently, but it tells me my license is consumed and cannot write the full tune into the car. Is there a way to salvage the license from a partially written ECM?

Call Ecutek, they can do it remotely.

Kodename47 07-20-2018 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B T (Post 3112304)
My program failed due to faulty connection just after starting. I now have it reading consistently, but it tells me my license is consumed and cannot write the full tune into the car. Is there a way to salvage the license from a partially written ECM?

On 1st write or subsequent flash? If the latter you can usually get around this by manually selecting the vehicle and flashing that way.

B T 07-20-2018 01:31 PM

manually selecting did work after bending pins in the ECUTek adapter. Then it has problems with a missing license. ECUTek gave me a quick turnaround in getting a replacement license. It's working again, Thanks

djezlee 07-21-2018 02:34 PM

I was thinking about buying the ECU connect bluetooth interface, USB dongle and a license. Does the Bluetooth interface eliminate the need for both the OBDII cable and the software programing package?

Tor 07-21-2018 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djezlee (Post 3112900)
I was thinking about buying the ECU connect bluetooth interface, USB dongle and a license. Does the Bluetooth interface eliminate the need for both the OBDII cable and the software programing package?

Yes. You need RaceRom too if you want to do any editing yourself. If you get someone else to make the tune for you, you are set with that stuff you mentioned.

cool7 07-24-2018 03:59 AM

If tunes are keyd to the dongle, what stops user from sharing the tune with another car if they buy another ecu license?

tomm.brz 07-24-2018 06:49 AM

Locked tunes don t open if you try to open them with a dongle that has a diffferent 6digit ID to the one they are keyd with
Open tunes open everywhere with every kit

steve99 07-24-2018 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cool7 (Post 3113657)
If tunes are keyd to the dongle, what stops user from sharing the tune with another car if they buy another ecu license?


Thats possible but you have to ise dongle tune is keyed to, the tune is also not editable if its keyed so you cannpt open or change it jist flash it.


The second car would have to be same or compatable ecu calibration id and car have same mods

Seba 01-27-2019 05:49 AM

Hello,

I have got some questions about ecutek BT programming kit before I get the point of it.
I already have a SC and a tune flashed with ecutek proecu kit by a guy who had installed my kit. My ecu has been flashed, so the ecutek licence is already in it.

I want to do a data logging , send it to my SC vendor to check if everything is ok. If a tuner sends me a new updated map, I would like to flash my ecu myself.
As far as I know I need a BT ecu connect with programming, that should also include a deskey/dongle and a mini - usb cable. The dongle has it's own ID, that I will send to a master tuner.

Am I correct?

Seb

steve99 01-27-2019 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seba (Post 3178084)
Hello,

I have got some questions about ecutek BT programming kit before I get the point of it.
I already have a SC and a tune flashed with ecutek proecu kit by a guy who had installed my kit. My ecu has been flashed, so the ecutek licence is already in it.

I want to do a data logging , send it to my SC vendor to check if everything is ok. If a tuner sends me a new updated map, I would like to flash my ecu myself.
As far as I know I need a BT ecu connect with programming, that should also include a deskey/dongle and a mini - usb cable. The dongle has it's own ID, that I will send to a master tuner.

Am I correct?

Seb


I have a blutooh kit amd yes it can flash via its mini usb portThe blutooth connection is for logging and interacting with tune via the blutooth ecutek app.


Ecutek now sell the blutooth kit with a dongle, you still need dongle and blutooth adapeter to flash a tune.


Ues you need to send the deskey dongle id to your tuner so they can key the tune to your dongle





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Seba 01-27-2019 08:23 AM

Thanks,

so, all I need to flash the ecu is: a BT device , mini usb cable, a dongle.

A BT device alone and Iphone/Ipad app is only for data loging, viewing and canceling errors.
If I want to flash the ecu, I will use a dongle, a cable plugged in to the BT device and a laptop.

My licence is assigned to my ecu, not to the previous dongle that had been used primary. My new map will be assigned to my new dongle ID.

Correct?



Quote:

Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 3178090)
I have a blutooh kit amd yes it can flash via its mini usb portThe blutooth connection is for logging and interacting with tune via the blutooth ecutek app.


Ecutek now sell the blutooth kit with a dongle, you still need dongle and blutooth adapeter to flash a tune.


Ues you need to send the deskey dongle id to your tuner so they can key the tune to your dongle





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steve99 01-27-2019 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seba (Post 3178093)
Thanks,

so, all I need to flash the ecu is: a BT device , mini usb cable, a dongle.

A BT device alone and Iphone/Ipad app is only for data loging, viewing and canceling errors.
If I want to flash the ecu, I will use a dongle, a cable plugged in to the BT device and a laptop.

My licence is assigned to my ecu, not to the previous dongle that had been used primary. My new map will be assigned to my new dongle ID.

Correct?


Yes correct


Ecu licience is universal can be flashed by any ecutel kit with dongle any id.


Tune files are usually keyed to a single dongle id. So if you change dongle id, you can no longer flash your old tunes untill tiner re keys them to your new dongle id, unless they were unlocked\unkeyed tunes but this is rare


Licience in ecu allws flash of thet ecu unlimted times


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