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Tcoat 09-27-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 2762443)
Peeing against the tide, man.

Ya, I frequently do. On occasion I have managed to push the tide back though.

CatDaddysBBQ 09-27-2016 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2762432)
5 or 6 ATs built for every MT.

No way, I read about a year ago that it was 60-70% sales in favor of the manual. While that may not be accurate, it's hardly the 10% you are claiming.

Tcoat 09-27-2016 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CatDaddysBBQ (Post 2762447)
No way, I read about a year ago that it was 60-70% sales in favor of the manual. While that may not be accurate, it's hardly the 10% you are claiming.

My number could of course be way off since I pulled it out of my ass based on the mix I have seen in Canada but it doesn't change the fact that the MT is a rapidly disappearing feature.

Yoshoobaroo 09-27-2016 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CatDaddysBBQ (Post 2762447)
No way, I read about a year ago that it was 60-70% sales in favor of the manual. While that may not be accurate, it's hardly the 10% you are claiming.

For sale listings show a 55%MT / 45%AT split. This car's customer base is definitely MUCH more manual focused than your typical 'performance car'.






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DarkSunrise 09-27-2016 12:54 PM

For the FR-S, 52% were sold with a manual. For the BRZ, it was 70%.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...on-doomed.html

Tcoat 09-27-2016 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 2762567)
For the FR-S, 52% were sold with a manual. For the BRZ, it was 70%.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...on-doomed.html

There we go! My ass was wrong again.
My point remains unchanged.

DarkSunrise 09-27-2016 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2762569)
There we go! My ass was wrong again.
My point remains unchanged.

Yeah MT is a dying breed for sure. :(

one2onejackpot 09-27-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GTHachiRoku (Post 2762377)
Definitely! I wonder if the change is due to similar reasons Mitsubishi changed theirs on the Evo X from metal to plastic. They realized plastic was ok at stock heat levels. However, swapping to metal was always one of the first recommendations from tuners as the heat was too much for the plastic when pushed beyond stock hp. We all know these cars run hot stock, so maybe this is more of a preventative measure.

These cars do run very hot. Maybe an OEM Forester XT oil cooler is the way to go.

krayzie 09-27-2016 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 2762587)
Yeah MT is a dying breed for sure. :(

10 years ago I had a tough time trying to even find a CPO E46 with a stick shift. All the dealer lots had were automatics despite what I always heard about Bimmer drivers being stick shift elitists.

DarkSunrise 09-27-2016 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 2762852)
All the dealer lots had were automatics despite what I always heard about Bimmer drivers being stick shift elitists.

Haha I guess that might still be true relative to the other 2 luxury German marques. A lot of sporty Audi and MB-AMG models don't even have a manual option anymore since people hardly bought them.

At least with the next-gen 86, it will definitely be offered with a manual since the take rate was so high on the first-gens.

norcalpb 09-27-2016 07:38 PM

Damn $400 for the manifold...

Tcoat 09-27-2016 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 2762864)
Haha I guess that might still be true relative to the other 2 luxury German marques. A lot of sporty Audi and MB-AMG models don't even have a manual option anymore since people hardly bought them.

At least with the next-gen 86, it will definitely be offered with a manual since the take rate was so high on the first-gens.

If it isn't a hybrid!

DarkSunrise 09-27-2016 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2763022)
If it isn't a hybrid!

:(

nikitopo 09-28-2016 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 2761665)
This is correct. new intake won't gain 5hp. It's due to other component that make MY17 feels like gaining more power.

If I wanna upgrade the intake manifold, I want this... but of course, it's impossible to get one Orz
http://clicccar.com/wp-content/uploa...06-618x412.jpg


Still wondering why they didn't use this manifold and designed a new one ...


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