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jay4prez 12-14-2010 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 23316)
Man, we had a 4 FT86c race tonight/today. Want.FR-S, 70NYD, Jay4prez & me. It was pretty hard race w Sport tires (soft), but I think we had fun time (well I did anyways). Jay cheating w his new G27. Now, only thing he's missing is playseat.:thumbsup:

haha, its a 25, but definitely some fun races, I'm getting so used to the car now.

Definitely need that playseat man.

hopefully I'll see you guys on today (last day of vacation, and its snowing so I'll keep the aggressive driving to gt)

AaronCompNetSys 12-14-2010 12:24 PM

Hum, subscription fail. Didn't know this thread was still active :D
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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 23049)
btw anyone have rolled the FT86 to see how it looks under?

This?

Dragonitti 12-14-2010 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 23316)
Man, we had a 4 FT86c race tonight/today. Want.FR-S, 70NYD, Jay4prez & me. It was pretty hard race w Sport tires (soft), but I think we had fun time (well I did anyways). Jay cheating w his new G27. Now, only thing he's missing is playseat.:thumbsup:

Tsukuba race was awesome. First race, I win, second Jay and last one, Want.FR-S was doing good til we got heated up and bump here and there :bellyroll: also some notice we cannot write "TSUKUBA" wonder why?



I was wondering bout that. I was like, did he got pissed and logged off?

I have 2 of each FT86c, so I've setup one for Sports tires and one for Racing tires... but man, sports tire races are harder than racing tires, no grip.

or we could even have FT86c drift challenge. :)


Damn I missed the battle! Crap.

I got the drift thing on LOCK so, bring it....lol.

Sport Tire races...hmm..haven't tried much in way of Sport tires. I have all sports and all racing tires purchased though.

ichitaka05 12-14-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jay4prez (Post 23323)
haha, its a 25, but definitely some fun races, I'm getting so used to the car now.

Definitely need that playseat man.

hopefully I'll see you guys on today (last day of vacation, and its snowing so I'll keep the aggressive driving to gt)

Oh still, better than regular controller.

I'll try to log in before & after work.

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 23331)
Damn I missed the battle! Crap.

I got the drift thing on LOCK so, bring it....lol.

Sport Tire races...hmm..haven't tried much in way of Sport tires. I have all sports and all racing tires purchased though.

You missed it, it was fun!

Yeah, sports tire is way harder to drive. Just wanna drift through the corner. lol

I think, I've bought all the tires on one of FT86c, but not all of my FT86c have every tires.

Want.FR-S 12-14-2010 02:20 PM

So I was the one new to this game. Gee.. relying on the driving line so much for proper braking. Anyhow, I probably need one extra ft-86 for sport tire and another one for the g sport. Somehow I find that the N/A one seems to be better handling.

Anyway, having too much power on sport tire is not for grip race.

@Ichi, thanks for the one-on-one lesson on tuning the car. I learned a lot about the suspension settings now. Just need to keep on trying.

Want.FR-S 12-14-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronCompNetSys (Post 23329)
Hum, subscription fail. Didn't know this thread was still active :D
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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 http://www.ft86club.com/forums/image...s/viewpost.gif
btw anyone have rolled the FT86 to see how it looks under?

This?

Black flat surface. No detailing on the undercarriage, and probably for all the cars.

RRnold 12-14-2010 02:37 PM

Damn looks like I missed a good session yest! I went on around 10:30ish PST and saw Jay, Ichi and Travis but went to the lounge and nobody was there.

Travis, how do you set it up for driftings? Is is only the brake bias all to the front?

I have the Rocketfish bluetooth bonded and all but I can't hear anything. Its connected to Settigns/Accessories Settings/Manage Blue Tooth Device and I could hear the volume button when I press it but no RX or TX!?! :iono:

#Edit-Found out the issue
{I just fought with mine for about half an hour and found this out, figured id help. When it says in the instructions to go into the Audio device settings page and change the level, below that it says input device and output device. you also have to change that to the RF-QX3. The instructions are a little vague on doing that. Then try talking and u should be able to hear yourself while on that page. good luck with that. hope it works}

Dragonitti 12-14-2010 02:54 PM

^^Yeah I was just about to say, you need to change it in the Device Input/Output part.

Just upgraded the FT86c, now I need to adjust my trans.

AaronCompNetSys 12-14-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Want.FR-S (Post 23339)
Gee.. relying on the driving line so much for proper braking.

Don't feel bad, you are not alone. I suck at braking on Gran Turismo too because I just cannot tell how fast I'm going due of how the camera works on that game. I'm sure I could learn to watch the speedometer, but that's just no fun for me.

I don't need the line for games like Grid and Dirt, but I have to have it on for GT.
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Originally Posted by Want.FR-S (Post 23340)
Black flat surface. No detailing on the undercarriage, and probably for all the cars.

Lame. You make me sad once again GT5.

ichitaka05 12-14-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Want.FR-S (Post 23339)
Anyway, having too much power on sport tire is not for grip race.

@Ichi, thanks for the one-on-one lesson on tuning the car. I learned a lot about the suspension settings now. Just need to keep on trying.

Thanks too! My G's suspension isn't fully setup the way I want, so just having few laps behind you helped to see where need to be fixed.

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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 23341)
Damn looks like I missed a good session yest! I went on around 10:30ish PST and saw Jay, Ichi and Travis but went to the lounge and nobody was there.

Did you look in my lounge and not your lounge? Cuz, I know for sure, when you were on, others were on my lounge. O'well maybe we might be do the same.

I should be on same time as yesterday, so message me for race!

RRnold 12-14-2010 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 23345)

Did you look in my lounge and not your lounge? Cuz, I know for sure, when you were on, others were on my lounge. O'well maybe we might be do the same.

I should be on same time as yesterday, so message me for race!

You know thats what I did! I looked in my lounge thinking its one community lounge, didn't see anybody and went on to play NBA2K11. :bellyroll:

I did notice a slight glitch. On the Community row, my pic isn't displayed. But when I scroll down till my s/n isn't visible then scroll back up, my s/n pic is there. It does it on ID, A and B tabs every time. Are you guys seeing the same thing?! Weird ish! :iono:

ichitaka05 12-14-2010 08:22 PM

Hm... I don't have that problem

ichitaka05 12-15-2010 12:35 AM

I'll be on playing GT5. Message me if you wanna do some racing.

austinguy83 12-15-2010 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Want.FR-S (Post 23340)
Black flat surface. No detailing on the undercarriage, and probably for all the cars.


most of the premium cars have fully modeled undercarriages.

ichitaka05 12-16-2010 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by corbin (Post 23413)
How did GT5 know how the FT86 will handle? Just complete crapshoot based on the few specs we have or what?

If they did anything substantial I would like to see some Tsukuba lap times... they are generally fast in racing sims but add 5 seconds or so and it might be pretty close.

In real life or in GT5? Here's my time lap in GT5 @ Tsukuba
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...5/IMAG0091.jpg

but of course it's not stock. I've tuned it to max w full custom suspension. I'll buy another one & try to see

Update:
K, I just bought another FT86c (yes, I have now 3 FT86c & 2 G's FT86c). I ran 20 times (10 laps, take a break x2) and fastest time I got was 1:05.735 (if I didn't sneeze on last corner, would of shaved 0.2sec). Average time were around 1:05.8xx~06.6xx.

70NYD 12-16-2010 03:44 AM

Lol sneezed hahaha
I borrowed a g27 from a friend of myn but quickly realized it's fortunate I didn't buy it cus my tv is in front of my bed lol no way to mount the wheel

Dragonitti 12-16-2010 11:05 AM

Been a little bit busy lately, so haven't had time to jump on. I did put in an hour of practice last night and online races.

Ended my night (or should I say day, since it was like 2:00am), with finally a decent enough lap at the NurBurg. The lap was not 100% and I could shave off another full second or two when I learn the track some more. The first half of the track I have down, it's the Second half I'm learning now.

Nurburg Lap Time
FT-86 GSport 7:18.361

New Sector Section Drift Score for Tsukuba Circuit
FT86c 14,820pts

ichitaka05 12-16-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 70NYD (Post 23418)
Lol sneezed hahaha
I borrowed a g27 from a friend of myn but quickly realized it's fortunate I didn't buy it cus my tv is in front of my bed lol no way to mount the wheel

Hey give sick Jap some break. :bellyroll: I have some cold and sneezing like crazy for few days.

LOL that's funny. You can always change around to make it fit. I made my room to make sure to fit Playseat! Just the buying is different story. btw how different was it w G27 and regular controller?

Dimman 12-17-2010 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by corbin (Post 23413)
How did GT5 know how the FT86 will handle? Just complete crapshoot based on the few specs we have or what?

If they did anything substantial I would like to see some Tsukuba lap times... they are generally fast in racing sims but add 5 seconds or so and it might be pretty close.

I was running 1:06.XX on all stock except the middle suspension. No anti roll bar adjustment, and I just dropped it and went with -1.5/-1 camber front and rear, dampers 1 softer than max. A very 'stock' setup.

I figure it would represent an medium-ish tuned 'real' car (pessimistically assuming that the real car will be heavier and less powerful than the GT5 version).

Also a better player/driver could probably knock a couple seconds off my time with the same car.

ichitaka05 12-17-2010 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 23452)
I was running 1:06.XX on all stock except the middle suspension. No anti roll bar adjustment, and I just dropped it and went with -1.5/-1 camber front and rear, dampers 1 softer than max. A very 'stock' setup.

I figure it would represent an medium-ish tuned 'real' car (pessimistically assuming that the real car will be heavier and less powerful than the GT5 version).

Also a better player/driver could probably knock a couple seconds off my time with the same car.

Like I did :) pure stock 1:05.xxx

Dragonitti 12-17-2010 01:20 AM

^^OOhh...I smell some competition...lol

Dimman 12-17-2010 02:08 AM

I had to lend my PS3 to a buddy so I only play on the weekends. (weak self control...)

1:05... I'm game. Bone stock, no suspension mods? But will be tough for me...

ichitaka05 12-17-2010 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 23456)
^^OOhh...I smell some competition...lol

I believe in good competition, bring each other's spirit up.

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 23457)
I had to lend my PS3 to a buddy so I only play on the weekends. (weak self control...)

1:05... I'm game. Bone stock, no suspension mods? But will be tough for me...

Yeah, it was and still is bone stock. haven't change one single thing. Only thing I have done to the car is oil change and washed the car.

toper 12-17-2010 04:26 PM

let's do a stock car race!!

Maxim 01-04-2011 04:28 AM

Well I don't have my ps3 online yet but I'm running similar times to you guys in stock form. Low 1:05.xxx.

What we need to do is have a competition to see who can get the lowest time on the 'ring using any and all mods...

ichitaka05 01-04-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxim (Post 24092)
Well I don't have my ps3 online yet but I'm running similar times to you guys in stock form. Low 1:05.xxx.

What we need to do is have a competition to see who can get the lowest time on the 'ring using any and all mods...

At the Nur, I think Dragon beat me. I can't keep it up w him

RRnold 01-04-2011 03:46 PM

I think Ichi has all of us beat at Tsubi track with 55 secs! The fastest I got with my FT on that track was 59 but that is 401hp @ 930 kg

Dragonitti 01-04-2011 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 24109)
I think Ichi has all of us beat at Tsubi track with 55 secs! The fastest I got with my FT on that track was 59 but that is 401hp @ 930 kg

My FT runs 55secs. Some more tuning I think I can get it down lower, as my camber was Zero'ed out all the times I was racing with Ichi.

Side note, my F430 Scuderia turns a 51sec lap time at Tsukuba.


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Originally Posted by Maxim (Post 24092)
Well I don't have my ps3 online yet but I'm running similar times to you guys in stock form. Low 1:05.xxx.

What we need to do is have a competition to see who can get the lowest time on the 'ring using any and all mods...

To date, I clocked a 7:18sec. I think I can shave another sec or two off that with some suspension tweaking.

Maxim 01-05-2011 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 24118)
My FT runs 55secs. Some more tuning I think I can get it down lower, as my camber was Zero'ed out all the times I was racing with Ichi.

Side note, my F430 Scuderia turns a 51sec lap time at Tsukuba.




To date, I clocked a 7:18sec. I think I can shave another sec or two off that with some suspension tweaking.

Damn quick. race tires I assume? I've found that tuning wise, the easiest way to lower lap times on the car is to work heavily on the rear suspension setup. A slightly softer rear with the right limited slip and gearing can put the power down out of corners much better. You lose a bit of responsiveness but the corner exit speeds go up so much that it doesn't matter.

ichitaka05 01-05-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 24109)
I think Ichi has all of us beat at Tsubi track with 55 secs! The fastest I got with my FT on that track was 59 but that is 401hp @ 930 kg

930kg? iirc mine was 890kg. I think, you can shave more time (if you're driving the NA ver).

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 24118)
My FT runs 55secs. Some more tuning I think I can get it down lower, as my camber was Zero'ed out all the times I was racing with Ichi.

To date, I clocked a 7:18sec. I think I can shave another sec or two off that with some suspension tweaking.

7mins 18secs? Wow that's fast! :bellyroll: You mean 7.18secs, right? :)

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Originally Posted by Maxim (Post 24178)
Damn quick. race tires I assume? I've found that tuning wise, the easiest way to lower lap times on the car is to work heavily on the rear suspension setup. A slightly softer rear with the right limited slip and gearing can put the power down out of corners much better. You lose a bit of responsiveness but the corner exit speeds go up so much that it doesn't matter.

True, but that don't be stock car race. If I can upgrade suspensions, lsd & tranny, I can totally pull out 59secs.

but other than that, I do agree with you. Low hp car require a lots of rear suspension tuning.

Dragonitti 01-05-2011 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 24187)
930kg? iirc mine was 890kg. I think, you can shave more time (if you're driving the NA ver).

Same here 890kg. But I think the GSport weighs more if I recall.


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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 24187)
7mins 18secs? Wow that's fast! :bellyroll: You mean 7.18secs, right? :)


LOL...right on. 7min 18sec. Faster than the real world ZR1 lap time...:bellyroll: Soon, I'm going to be attacking it again with some more suspension tweaks to see if I can shave off another sec. I did have one little missed cue during my run.

Maxim 01-05-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 24187)
930kg? iirc mine was 890kg. I think, you can shave more time (if you're driving the NA ver).



7mins 18secs? Wow that's fast! :bellyroll: You mean 7.18secs, right? :)



True, but that don't be stock car race. If I can upgrade suspensions, lsd & tranny, I can totally pull out 59secs.

but other than that, I do agree with you. Low hp car require a lots of rear suspension tuning.

Actually I was trying to say that HIGH horsepower requires clever rear suspension tuning. When you have enough power to spin the wheels, getting the appropriate suspension geometry and weight transfer becomes even more important when trying to hook up, because that means faster exit speeds, which turn into faster times down the straights and big reduction in lap times.

I was talkin' bout my fully modded up FT-86 in the game ;)

ichitaka05 01-05-2011 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxim (Post 24201)
Actually I was trying to say that HIGH horsepower requires clever rear suspension tuning. When you have enough power to spin the wheels, getting the appropriate suspension geometry and weight transfer becomes even more important when trying to hook up, because that means faster exit speeds, which turn into faster times down the straights and big reduction in lap times.

I was talkin' bout my fully modded up FT-86 in the game ;)

Really? Fully modded ver, it was kinda easy for me to tune the rear. Mid to light tuning, I had hard time tuning the rear suspension.

But in the end, it's all up to how you want to set-up your car. High speed corner car or hairpin corner. Late braking to mid section til corner or brake early, but come out fast... and list just goes all and all. You gotta one or the other. Can't get both. :)

RRnold 01-05-2011 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 24187)
930kg? iirc mine was 890kg. I think, you can shave more time (if you're driving the NA ver).


.

I haven't done the Stage 3 Weight reduction yet... *DOH*

I hate the Nur esp the LeMans Nur track that has the entire layout! Too many turns to memorize. :bonk:

ichitaka05 01-05-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 24216)
I haven't done the Stage 3 Weight reduction yet... *DOH*

I hate the Nur esp the LeMans Nur track that has the entire layout! Too many turns to memorize. :bonk:

Stage 3 weight loss loses 40kg? That's a ton of weight loss! Wow, I didn't know Stage 3 do that much weight loss. I just maxed out all spec when I got my FT86c and didn't really see which tuning do how much.

Yeah, I did that for the first time yesterday... after doing 2 laps, I almost shoot myself.

Dragonitti 01-05-2011 10:59 PM

The Nur has almost become my favorite track. Nur and Tsukuba. Guess it's the persona behind them. Fantasy tracks are fun, but I'm a World Circuit track guy. They put a lot of detail into the Nur and it's simply a thing of beauty.

RRnold 01-06-2011 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 24225)
Stage 3 weight loss loses 40kg? That's a ton of weight loss! Wow, I didn't know Stage 3 do that much weight loss. I just maxed out all spec when I got my FT86c and didn't really see which tuning do how much.

Yeah, I did that for the first time yesterday... after doing 2 laps, I almost shoot myself.

I have 12 mil and trying to get to 14.4 mil to buy a Chaparral 2J. I haven't really been driving the FT much since I got spoiled with the other cars. I really like the MB SLS AMG, that thing is super fun to drive!


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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 24232)
The Nur has almost become my favorite track. Nur and Tsukuba. Guess it's the persona behind them. Fantasy tracks are fun, but I'm a World Circuit track guy. They put a lot of detail into the Nur and it's simply a thing of beauty.

Yeah, I read an article regarding a pro driver who's been on the Nur track many times. He played GT5's Nur and mentioned how accurate it was.

I'm a fan of Laguna only b/c I've ridden that track before and love the elevation changes. The corkscrew is insane!

toper 01-06-2011 11:30 PM

hi guys, just want to share what's keeping me busy this week, i finally finished my custom cockpit for my G27, its not neat but effective.. driving became twice as fun!!

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9261/cockpitr.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7345/cockpit1j.jpg

Have to add shifter and hand brake lever mounts too but that's enough building for the week :happyanim:

Dimman 01-06-2011 11:31 PM

Hate you... Lol


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