Can I do it simply because I like it?

Ugh, have no desire for JDM yo.

"CB" was meant to stand for "cool beauty" if anyone didn't know already. Toyota loses some cool points for that.

"Beautiful brilliance that extends beyond time and place" well it doesn't get more Japanese than that..

...but Driving Kids with Toyota... LOL


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Hey, what if that thing has better aero than the regular FR-S? The function > form guys might be all over it.

You know what I just thought of - why did they not go with a Ferrari 246 Dino look for the front instead....

http://www.carstyling.ru/resources/c..._246GT_011.jpg

Fogly not my taste

The more I look at it, the more I like it.

What's the difference between Pure Red and the current red? they look pretty similar to me.

Holy shit, I have to copy and paste this somewhere, this totally kills the statements of naysayers saying Tada San was just cheap and such and is good evidence against the power war

The issue is that the platform is not selling as much as they were thinking at the initial stages. It is not only the Cb design. They already moved in a more premium feel even with the ordinary specs.

For example, they completely removed the RA spec in Japan which it had no floor silencer, no trunk mats, steal wheels and overall it was a car for the hardcore fans. And this spec it was not only for Japan. We were getting this spec also in Europe. However, this spec counted only of the 2% of their sales. The other 98% wants a premium feel and not to change much or tune things.

LOL.

I'd take that front end over any of the clown-shoe edgy crap out there now. What will the JDM crowd do if that takes off?

Somewhere on a Jaguar forum is some dipshit complaining about this car looking like a crawfish. Looking at one today, and it was f-in gorgeous.

http://www.jaguar.ca/Images/FT_014_0...66x769.jpg?v=1

Could have been this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...geyeSprite.jpg

I like it, the headlights got a certain Toyota Verossa look to them!

https://rthirtytwotaka.files.wordpre.../verossa-1.jpg

I wonder which model weighs 3,240 lbs. and what content is included in the lighter models? Anyone translate?

I am a function > form guy, but what exactly do you think about this would make a big enough difference that it would affect aero in a positive way to make it worth buying? The bumper seems to sit slightly higher, the mouth seems to be slightly smaller, and nothing else aside from the headlight cutouts are different at all that I can tell.

Any aftermarket aero-focused bumper or lip + splitter on stock bumper would most likely produce more downforce.

Anyway, this is 100% design/fashion focused for Japanese women. Just look at how they are marketing it and what they changed.

I don't see this being all that appealing to women outside of Japan though.

Really, it just looks kinda boring. It's not that it's HIDEOUS... It's just not particularly stylish and all aggression is lost. It's not particularly sleek or sexy. It looks like a more boring/feminine version of the S2000 front end. Quite similar to an NB Miata. The new Miata is much better looking all-around, IMO.

Meh. People are blowing the sales decline out of proportion. Nobody outside of Toyota knows what they predicted as far as sales go. Sales have been pretty damn good compared to MANY other sports cars of the 90s/2000s. Sure, it's not selling as well as a Camry or Civic or whatever, but no sports car ever will.

As for the stripped down, basic tuner/racing spec... Has any other sports car had such a thing that was produced throughout the entire lifespan of the car? I'm not sure, but I don't think there has been one. In a way, it's a special edition for tuners and track junkies... take out all the shit that's going to be replaced anyway to keep initial costs down. Makes sense, but not necessarily to keep producing for the entire life of the car as it's really only for certain people, who probably have already bought one. I do wish that was an available option in the US though....

What did they do to the car O.o... Looking at it reminds me of 1980's European sports car.... Front end that is... Reason why I chose the frs was because the front end looks good... Looks like they just added a front new bumper and called it 2016

I do not KNOW if it would be more aero efficient. However, it is more rounded and there are less sharp lines around the headlights, grill and in the area of the turn foglight/vents. Smooth normally means better airflow. Sharp edges, creases and increased surface area normally mean more drag. It also appears to have a small lip below the nose to cut down on lift.

I am not saying I particularly like it but there is a chance that it could flow better than the stock bumper cover and headlights. If that is the case someone will want it. Even if it is not better in any way someone will want it anyway because it is different.

Agreed. Sales are fine.

It would also be nice if Toyota/Scion would offer the stripped model and a trunk CR package like Mazda did with the MX-5.

They wanted to build 100k a year:

http://www.ft86club.com/?p=1345

I don't think they hit that (It took nearly 2 years for the first 100k) and given current numbers and history of Japanese sports cars they never will. It's done well but I don't think it met optimistic expectations, it probably exceeded minimum expectations, but doesn't exactly bode well for long term viability of the small lightweight sports car market.

Did you read the rest?

"Since the introduction on February 2, 7,000 orders of the Toyota 86 have been placed, which are as seven times the monthly sales target, while 2,500 orders for the Subaru BRZ have been placed since its on February 3 – which is 5.6 times as the original target."

According to that, their target was only 12,000 86s and 446 BRZs each year.

Not sure if that was just Japan or what?

Yes there was high demand the first few months but if you take a look at the sales the trends are down and will likely continue to trend down. Just like every other Japanese sports car sold in America: Miata, 350/370Z, RX-8, S2000.

Not bad, just realistically speaking it hasn't met the optimistic expectations set forth, they are NOT producing 100k per year otherwise we would have seen the "200k produced!" jubilee by now or at least within the next 3 months (3 years anniversary this spring). Maybe that was just hype, I don't know, but Toyobaru's are a drop in the bucket in this country compared to Mustangs and Camaros and Challengers, each of those selling in 2x to 3x the volume.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=464

You actually believe that downforce was a design consideration for this?

No, not at all. Read the series of posts again, maybe.

Absolutely not. This is actually the opposite. Purely cosmetic.

Same weight as the GT trim in Japan. 1250kg for automatic, 1230kg for manual.

So the 1470 kg shown in the linked brochure is for another model?

Kudos, to Toyota for trying something else with the 86. Even if it doesn't seem to be the best for everyone's taste buds. Still I don't think this will make it across the ocean.

imo, u should get to pay less to get that ugly front end.

So I was just doing some research on the new Azurite blue.Hard to tell with the generated Toyota pic so I looked on Subaru's site and found a late model Legacy has this color that maybe the closest if not the same to the Azurite blue. Just a guestimate. Here is the Subaru Lapis Blue Pearl and the Azurite Blue. Dunno but could be the same.

Also...are the 2016 FR-S fenders been lightened to reduce weight? Seems this is saying something like that.

I think they're just boasting about what currently exists. Couldn't possibly be any thinner than they already are.

Japanese like to make things out of paper - maybe they could make paper fenders for the ultimate in lightweight fenders...

Then it would be a Trabant.

Hmm, didn't see it saying 1470kg in the brochure.

The color code is different.
The current one is C7P and 2016 is M7Y.

What is the 2015 WRX red color code?


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does "CB" stand for cock block?

Do you know the Azurite Blue code?

It does now :bellyroll:

K3X

http://toyota.jp/86/style/

So this video is from the Toyota Japan YouTube channel. I took a still of an interesting item. The tail lights might have been updated? Dunno but looks like they are. Only time will tell. Here's the video. Looks like a symbolic thing, a 2015 and a 2016 side by side.

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