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Dave-ROR 01-09-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 109932)
I looked at the S2K's but opted for the TSX based on the blue/purple color you could get with the cutoff. It was 6 or 7 years ago, so I don't remember what the price difference was.

That color shift is the one annoying thing about S2K projectors. Many people love that, it's the one thing I wish I could have changed regarding my S2000's lights. The output pattern and lumens was fantastic, but the stupid cutoff color shift was obnoxious.

Dave-ROR 01-09-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24 (Post 109934)
Lol can we stop talking about HID's and not waste like 3 pages so we could find the pics when they are posted @ 3:45pm? :)

No. :)

NorCalRider 01-09-2012 01:42 PM

Thanks for the pics Hatchi. Now all I need is pricing and options, then my day will be perfect.

Longhorn248 01-09-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24 (Post 109934)
Lol can we stop talking about HID's and not waste like 3 pages so we could find the pics when they are posted @ 3:45pm? :)

Pretty sure Hachi will post them up on page 1 in his initial post. I hear Admins have that kind of power.

Shevon 01-09-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24 (Post 109934)
Lol can we stop talking about HID's and not waste like 3 pages so we could find the pics when they are posted @ 3:45pm? :)

THIS!!!

Dave-ROR 01-09-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 109940)
Maybe if you have bad eyesight, then I can see it as a need. But if it was truly a need from a manufacturing standpoint, then every car would have HID's. Truth is....it's not a need, it's a want. Just like push-start is a want, just like 86 on the steering wheel...all wants..

I'd agree with this. I don't see HIDs as an actual need and I would buy the car without HIDs if I didn't have an option to get them. Having the option, I would certainly get them though.

Longhorn248 01-09-2012 01:44 PM

I'd almost put HID in the "need" category. After having them on my car versus the regular halogen reflector headlights I never want to go back.

Dragonitti 01-09-2012 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 109926)
Gotcha. I misread I guess, I had thought you said there wasn't a noticable difference.

As I posted elsewhere, that's why options are great. Don't slam them, let people get whatever options they want.


Hey I'm all for having them, don't get me wrong. Just getting annoyed with the Up in Arms people posting about HID's and Push-starts. It's just becoming a record player lately.

Snoopyalien24 01-09-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 109945)
Pretty sure Hachi will post them up on page 1 in his initial post. I hear Admins have that kind of power.

You don't say? :D

tripjammer 01-09-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 109773)
Techies use Google+

And all this push start talk makes me want to gouge out my eyes.

LOL you funny bro!

Actually we still use Twitter. Google+ is good but Twitter is where its at when posting something quick while you are driving in your car.

poormans_LFA 01-09-2012 01:49 PM

:bonk:

n2oinferno 01-09-2012 01:52 PM

Thanks for the pics! Really hoping to hear pricing...

So I have a question.. Will it have push button start HIDs? :D

iff2mastamatt 01-09-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by n2oinferno (Post 109968)
Thanks for the pics! Really hoping to hear pricing...

So I have a question.. Will it have push button start HIDs? :D

OH YEAHHH

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/141/2...288141_376.jpg

Dragonitti 01-09-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 109947)
I'd agree with this. I don't see HIDs as an actual need and I would buy the car without HIDs if I didn't have an option to get them. Having the option, I would certainly get them though.

+1


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Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 109957)
LOL you funny bro!

Actually we still use Twitter. Google+ is good but Twitter is where its at when posting something quick while you are driving in your car.

I'm a techie too, but don't use Twitter. Something about "following" someone just doesn't sit right with me. I see nothing but celebrities on Twitter, and it sorta turns me off.

Dave-ROR 01-09-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by n2oinferno (Post 109968)
Thanks for the pics! Really hoping to hear pricing...

So I have a question.. Will it have push button start HIDs? :D

And heated seats :) Dragon loves those too :P

Snoopyalien24 01-09-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 109773)
Techies use Google+

And all this push start talk makes me want to gouge out my eyes.

lol I feel like social websites like that should have like 1 or 2 syllables. Not 3, makes it feel longer to say :bonk:

ANYWAYS

anyone know if they will be streaming anything live?

WingsofWar 01-09-2012 01:54 PM

HID map lights...**crosses fingers**

Dave-ROR 01-09-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 109974)
HID map lights...**crosses fingers**

lol I can't even imagine how annoying that would be.

tripjammer 01-09-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 109842)
HIDs provide better visability which I would take on a country road or driving in the mountains. Updating FB or twitter provides nothing.


+10000

iff2mastamatt 01-09-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 109957)
LOL you funny bro!

Actually we still use Twitter. Google+ is good but Twitter is where its at when posting something quick while you are driving in your car.

It's far easier to track updates with g+ pages, because so few people use it! I follow the Scion FR-S page on both fb and g+.

tripjammer 01-09-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE (Post 109873)
2003+ celica gts come with standard HID's i dont see why a 2013 frs shouldn't come with anything less 10 years later


I know HIDS should be standard on all cars..especially those that cost over $22k.

They are not that expensive for the manufacturers to add...but the biXenon ones with the autoleveling are more expensive.

You can get decent aftermarket conversion kits for less than $100 including the bulbs and ballast.

http://www.hidxenonheadlights.com/

But this is basic HID stuff...not the awesome OEM stuff which is what I would want. But hey even the $100 PnP stuff is better than the stock halogens.

Giccin 01-09-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24 (Post 109864)

That looks horrid. Just like Ford's new focus with the ugly ashton martin look in the front. What the hell.

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Originally Posted by Syldrin (Post 109890)
So i've been thinking the car under the tarp is going to be Ken's car. i mean it is a scion racing booth after all.

I agree~

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Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 109974)
HID map lights...**crosses fingers**

I already get blinded from people who can't level their HIDs correctly and Bro-trucks lighing up my entire car with their lights... I need less of that. lol

tripjammer 01-09-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by iff2mastamatt (Post 109980)
It's far easier to track updates with g+ pages, because so few people use it! I follow the Scion FR-S page on both fb and g+.

Your right about that for a page...let me hit up the Scion FR-S page on G+.

2fast4you 01-09-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 109974)
HID map lights...**crosses fingers**

:bellyroll:

Dragonitti 01-09-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 109972)
And heated seats :) Dragon loves those too :P


Getting my gun now...lol. It's funny, my Z had everything (aside from push-start) that is mentioned here, and I would have preferred to have the Base model, if I were to buy another one.

I had the Touring Ed. 350z.

Dave-ROR 01-09-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 110002)
Getting my gun now...lol. It's funny, my Z had everything (aside from push-start) that is mentioned here, and I would have preferred to have the Base model, if I were to buy another one.

I had the Touring Ed. 350z.


I think it all comes down to your needs for the car. For me, I just want it as a nice fun daily driver and am fine with the extra luxuries. I have a DE car and a race car, I don't need the FT86 variant (whichever I get) to be barebones. If I were building it as a DE car, or TT car, or race car I'd want it as base and cheap as possible.

iff2mastamatt 01-09-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 109997)
Your right about that for a page...let me hit up the Scion FR-S page on G+.

There is like 9 people following the FT-86 club page on G+ too.

carbonBLUE 01-09-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 109994)
I know HIDS should be standard on all cars..especially those that cost over $22k.

They are not that expensive for the manufacturers to add...but the biXenon ones with the autoleveling are more expensive.

You can get decent aftermarket conversion kits for less than $100 including the bulbs and ballast.

http://www.hidxenonheadlights.com/


i dont want a conversion.. i like stock headlights, plus i love how stong they are, if i can get them at a later date ill be happy with that too and just sell the stock halogens

tripjammer 01-09-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by poormans_LFA (Post 109904)
HUD. i know HID's are expensive to replace as well, at least for MINI's ($500 per headlight).


You got ripped off. Its just a HID bulb. You can get good ones for like $40 a pair. HID bulbs are cheap to replace and they will last at least 3 to 4 years...maybe longer. On my 8 year old 350Z I have replaced them once. Cost me $45. It is kind of a biotch to replace the bulbs on a 350z though but it is doable.

KidWonder 01-09-2012 02:18 PM

The car under the cover, could possibly be a stripped down 'track' model.

Dave-ROR 01-09-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 110014)
You got ripped off. Its just a HID bulb. You can get good ones for like $40 a pair. HID bulbs are cheap to replace and they will last at least 3 to 4 years...maybe longer. On my 8 year old 350Z I have replaced them once. Cost me $45. It is kind of a biotch to replace the bulbs on a 350z though but it is doable.

I'm assuming he meant the entire housing, not just the bulb.

CLTBRZ 01-09-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 109995)
That looks horrid. Just like Ford's new focus with the ugly ashton martin look in the front. What the hell.



I agree~



I already get blinded from people who can't level their HIDs correctly and Bro-trucks lighing up my entire car with their lights... I need less of that. lol

I actually quite like the new Fusion - it certainly looks much better than both of the traditionally best sellers in the segment (Accord/Camry) and i like the aggressive styling better than the swoopy design of the Sonata. The front end looks less Aston Martin to me and more gaping-frowning-fish-mouth.

Dave-ROR 01-09-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE (Post 110011)
i dont want a conversion.. i like stock headlights, plus i love how stong they are, if i can get them at a later date ill be happy with that too and just sell the stock halogens

:thumbup: Those PNP conversions SUCK. We used one of the new digital ballast ones for the race car. I think they ended up in the trash can.

poormans_LFA 01-09-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 110014)
You got ripped off. Its just a HID bulb. You can get good ones for like $40 a pair. HID bulbs are cheap to replace and they will last at least 3 to 4 years...maybe longer. On my 8 year old 350Z I have replaced them once. Cost me $45. It is kind of a biotch to replace the bulbs on a 350z though but it is doable.

ha. i'm not a MINI owner, just something i know from MINI owners. I should clarify: i'm talking about Xenon units, not HID bulbs. big difference.

Longhorn248 01-09-2012 02:27 PM

So a little over an hour left until they pull the sheet back :happyanim:

Dragonitti 01-09-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 110007)
I think it all comes down to your needs for the car. For me, I just want it as a nice fun daily driver and am fine with the extra luxuries. I have a DE car and a race car, I don't need the FT86 variant (whichever I get) to be barebones. If I were building it as a DE car, or TT car, or race car I'd want it as base and cheap as possible.

I'm looking for a Daily as well. Maybe it was just the Z's heated leather seats that would set your arse on fire that I had a problem with...lol. I don't like Leather by any means though.

Dunkindoanuts 01-09-2012 02:32 PM

if they annouce the price today, do you think the car will be released/sold
in March then? My gut keeps telling me June for some reason, but I don't think they'd annouce the price 5 months ahead, my guessing is their strategy would be...
1) annouce price today (assuming their plans are already set in stone with options)--> sell in April

or

2) show options today and get a feel for our reactions(see if we hate/love what they offer)-->annouce price in March--> sell in June

SVTSHC 01-09-2012 02:33 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...5&d=1326114434

HID's huh? I thought the FR-S wasn't coming with HID's... or is this another option? Forgive my ignorance but I've never owned or built anything from scion.

Longhorn248 01-09-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunkindoanuts (Post 110044)
if they annouce the price today, do you think the car will be released/sold
in March then? My gut keeps telling me June for some reason, but I don't think they'd annouce the price 5 months ahead, my guessing is their strategy would be...
1) annouce price today (assuming their plans are already set in stone with options)--> sell in April

or

2) show options today and get a feel for our reactions(see if we hate/love what they offer)-->annouce price in March--> sell in June

Round of beer says it'll be released in May. :happy0180:

Dave-ROR 01-09-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunkindoanuts (Post 110044)
if they annouce the price today, do you think the car will be released/sold
in March then? My gut keeps telling me June for some reason, but I don't think they'd annouce the price 5 months ahead, my guessing is their strategy would be...
1) annouce price today (assuming their plans are already set in stone with options)--> sell in April

or

2) show options today and get a feel for our reactions(see if we hate/love what they offer)-->annouce price in March--> sell in June

Subaru BRZ will go on-sale in May according to their internal marketing site.


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