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*KID* 08-27-2012 08:19 PM

those are some really good 60fts. Im getting 60fts of 2.3 and trapping speeds of 94mph, and my best time out of the two runs was 15.1.

Boosted2.0 08-28-2012 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 405927)
Thanks for the update but this isn't correct.

After ecu reset the car does not run max advance..

The ignition logic is 100% what subarus have been using for over 10 years.

John

Dyno says otherwise. So do our. 1/4 mile times (best time we ran were 2 and 3 pulls after an ECU reset).

I see zero evidence of any claims to the contrary. Again - the long and short term ignition trims are right there in the stock data list to be viewed with a Toyota Techstream scan tool. I think I'm going to believe that and the actual evidence until someone proves different.

Boosted2.0 08-28-2012 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by *KID* (Post 406210)
those are some really good 60fts. Im getting 60fts of 2.3 and trapping speeds of 94mph, and my best time out of the two runs was 15.1.

Thanks!

Coheed 08-28-2012 08:55 AM

Is there a chance the ignition tables are set at a pre-determined level from the factory, but that level not at 100% advance?

I would be a bit concerned if a car came factory with full-advance, because a lot of dealers don't fill with 91 octane straight off the lot.

I'm thinking the default values are higher than what the computer whittles it down to, but not at maximal values.

Visconti 08-28-2012 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Coheed (Post 407105)
Is there a chance the ignition tables are set at a pre-determined level from the factory, but that level not at 100% advance?

I would be a bit concerned if a car came factory with full-advance, because a lot of dealers don't fill with 91 octane straight off the lot.

I'm thinking the default values are higher than what the computer whittles it down to, but not at maximal values.


This is how it works :

http://www.romraider.com/forum/topic1840.html

artizhay 09-01-2012 09:43 PM

Good to see you in the FR-S market, Boosted. I remember you from New Celica. Sort of off-topic I guess, but are you guys making an exhaust manifold for the FR-S? Been following the FR-S section of your store daily to no avail. :p Will be sending you a PM about some other things as well.

xwd 09-01-2012 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted2.0 (Post 406873)
Dyno says otherwise. So do our. 1/4 mile times (best time we ran were 2 and 3 pulls after an ECU reset).

I see zero evidence of any claims to the contrary. Again - the long and short term ignition trims are right there in the stock data list to be viewed with a Toyota Techstream scan tool. I think I'm going to believe that and the actual evidence until someone proves different.

People like Visconti are looking at the actual maps...Have heard from multiple sources as well it's a Subaru Denso ECU and works just like all of the others for most of its operation.

Illusive 09-02-2012 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dwx (Post 417079)
People like Visconti are looking at the actual maps...Have heard from multiple sources as well it's a Subaru Denso ECU and works just like all of the others for most of its operation.

Just to be clear, the toyota tech stream data IS the OEM datalist and not an interpretation of the datalist.

Visconti 09-02-2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Illusive (Post 417162)
Just to be clear, the toyota tech stream data IS the OEM datalist and not an interpretation of the datalist.

The EcuTek software has the OEM datalist , it's not a interpretation.

How do you think EcuTek is able to launch their product and on day one fully supports all ECUs in all regions? Where do you think EcuTek gets all the stock roms from lol?

They also have other datalist items that the tech stream or other dealer tools do not have.

John

carbonBLUE 09-02-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted2.0 (Post 406875)
Thanks!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd85z8DPhas"]2ZZ DD Performance Research Prototype Intake Manifold Dyno Pull - YouTube[/ame]


we need this!

Boosted2.0 09-03-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dwx (Post 417079)
People like Visconti are looking at the actual maps...Have heard from multiple sources as well it's a Subaru Denso ECU and works just like all of the others for most of its operation.

I am aware. But those ignition trim values on the Toyota scantool should read 0 if they did not exist. And the car should have LOST power after the ECU reset.

So far this car behaves EXACTLY like Toyota ignition logic by any measurable test you can perform. I can't tell you why that is, but seeing as how ECU TEK doesn't seem to know either - I challenge you to come up with a better explanation for its behavior.

And yes, this is a Denso ECU with a Subaru P/N

Boosted2.0 09-03-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE (Post 417766)

Working on something better ;)

uspspro 09-03-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted2.0 (Post 419466)
Working on something better ;)

Do tell! That intake manifold was/is a great product for the 2zz.

Hope that you will be supporting NA mods for this platform.

Visconti 09-03-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted2.0 (Post 419463)
I am aware. But those ignition trim values on the Toyota scantool should read 0 if they did not exist. And the car should have LOST power after the ECU reset.

So far this car behaves EXACTLY like Toyota ignition logic by any measurable test you can perform. I can't tell you why that is, but seeing as how ECU TEK doesn't seem to know either - I challenge you to come up with a better explanation for its behavior.

And yes, this is a Denso ECU with a Subaru P/N

Ecutek doesn't seem to know?

I do a lot with these car but I'm certainly not giving away everything I know or do.

I don't even know why you continue to argue with me. I see what's happening your GUESSING..


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