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smokeynyc 07-30-2010 09:51 AM

I own a JDM swapped 3SGTE MR2 and an Impreza, I drive both very frequently and to be honest theres not much of a difference in terms of the butt dyno. Both are very torquey motors and the powerband hits nice and early. Compared to my old RSX-S, I really like the low to mid range power band that the turbo motors get instead of a higher revving NA motor. Thank god they didn't castrate this car like they did with the MR2 Gen 3. Either way the EJ20 is a VERY easy motor to get power out of and the only thing its really lacking right now is direct injection, which Toyota is going fix. Lets hope for version 7 EJ207 forged internals!!!! For you guys that don't know the EJ207 spec C(STI version 7 and 8) had a 8300RPM redline.

Midship Runabout 07-30-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 17521)
3S can be thought of as 4/6ths of a 2JZ. Sort of.

2/3rds...

but yes same bore and stroke. just minus 2 cylinders

Dimman 07-30-2010 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Normous (Post 17544)
2/3rds...

but yes same bore and stroke. just minus 2 cylinders

I was going with cylinder numbers in case fractions confused too many people. Heh. But aside from the 86 X 86, and iron block they're probably quite different. I seem to recall that when they're mounted longitudinally (like in the Altezza), the intake and exhausts sides are opposite of the 2JZ. Either that or I was looking at a mirrored pic...

Midship Runabout 08-01-2010 06:05 AM

nope intake is on the left on both when look towards the crank pulley. you might have been looking at a sr20. dumb datsuns are backwards.

Dimman 08-01-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Normous (Post 17586)
nope intake is on the left on both when look towards the crank pulley. you might have been looking at a sr20. dumb datsuns are backwards.

What do you mean by left/right (viewpoint or sides of the car?) and from looking at the crank pulley?

JZ cars, when standing in front, looking into the engine bay have intakes on the right side as seen from the viewers point of view, left side of the car.

I swear the 3S is opposite. I'm going to go have a look right now, just to make sure I haven't gone insane...

Edit:
Thankfully, not crazy...

3S:
http://www.jdmlegends.com/blog/wp-co..._Black_Top.JPG

2JZ:
http://got-jdm.com/JDM/images/JDM-To...Turbo--106.jpg

ichitaka05 08-01-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 17595)

IDK why, but I've loved Beams 3S head cover. :w00t:

NESW20 08-01-2010 03:56 PM

Dixie - they're on the opposite sides. ;)

anyone know how long the rods are on the 2JZ?

Dimman 08-01-2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NESW20 (Post 17605)
Dixie - they're on the opposite sides. ;)

anyone know how long the rods are on the 2JZ?

I got 142mm off one site. But it didn't specify if that was overall length or center to center length.

Edit: That's center to center length.

Midship Runabout 08-01-2010 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Normous (Post 17586)
nope intake is on the left on both when look towards the crank pulley. you might have been looking at a sr20. dumb datsuns are backwards.

Im an idiot. I guess after a good night of drinking and not getting any action, I make mistakes. (check the 3am post) Sorry everyone. :bonk::suicide:

Dimman 08-01-2010 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Normous (Post 17620)
Im an idiot. I guess after a good night of drinking and not getting any action, I make mistakes. (check the 3am post) Sorry everyone. :bonk::suicide:

It's ok. You'll never make that mistake with the boxer. Just remember the intake in on the top and the exhaust is on the bottom. :)

ichitaka05 08-02-2010 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 17621)
It's ok. You'll never make that mistake with the boxer. Just remember the intake in on the top and the exhaust is on the bottom. :)

But I have met a moron that couldn't tell which side is up or down on short block EJ22 engine before... yes, he didn't know what he was doin' and disassemble his engine.

Dimman 08-02-2010 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 17627)
But I have met a moron that couldn't tell which side is up or down on short block EJ22 engine before... yes, he didn't know what he was doin' and disassemble his engine.

People can be pretty amazing sometimes. lol

ichitaka05 08-02-2010 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 17631)
People can be pretty amazing sometimes. lol

Seriously! How he couldn't tell the difference?!?!?! There's an oil pan on the bottom! Anyways yes, some people amaze me sometimes.

NESW20 08-02-2010 02:05 AM

2JZ has slightly longer rods than the 3S.

makes me with i had 182mm rods in my 3S... :(


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