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FR-S Matt 06-07-2013 07:59 AM

The Tarmac 0's are probably a perfect fit for most. I think the 2's are for the more extreme track users.

Outstanding product and I just learned about them about a week ago or so. It pays to do research and ask questions! Can't wait to order some 0's! Ever since I put some 18X9.5's in the front, I've not been able to take this one exit half loop to another highway at 70 mph driving home from work without the low trac light coming on briefly, but it won't at 50 mph. I was able to do this on the stock wheels/tires. Leads me to believe I may be rubbing just slightly under a hard corner. That's where the Tarmac 0's are going to come into play. If I want to take a hard corner, I want to be able to with the wheels\tires I have and have the ability to see the track in the future if I want. These should be perfect.

Myles provides outstanding service as well too. I'm a noob when it comes to suspension and he helped me fit them to my driving style and what I use it for.

UnOvertime 06-07-2013 09:21 AM

The guys are RCE are extremely helpful if you have any questions. I am picking up my Tarmac 0's from Fedex today (Fedex damaged the shipping label and delayed shipment a day). I will be putting them on Sunday to replace the RCE yellows. A functional drop of 1.25-1.5 inches will be perfect since I am still running the stock wheels and plan on sticking with 17's when I can finally decide on wheels that don't bankrupt me.

Sportsguy83 06-07-2013 09:26 AM

I am buying Tarmac Zero's today. If I lower the car 1-1.5", will I REALLY need to modify camber? How bad can I expect it to get? Honest answers please. I am looking to buy the least amount of suspension parts possible, so I only want to get what is absolutely necessary.

Will that drop REQUIRE LCA's to correct camber gone bad? How many degrees can I expect to get from lowering it in that range?

UnOvertime 06-07-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 987696)
I am buying Tarmac Zero's today. If I lower the car 1-1.5", will I REALLY need to modify camber? How bad can I expect it to get? Honest answers please. I am looking to buy the least amount of suspension parts possible, so I only want to get what is absolutely necessary.

Will that drop REQUIRE LCA's to correct camber gone bad? How many degrees can I expect to get from lowering it in that range?

I have the same questions. I really don't want to buy LCA's or bushings if I do not need them. The people I have talked to are running the same drops or even more extreme and have no camber adjustments.

raul 06-07-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 987696)
I am buying Tarmac Zero's today. If I lower the car 1-1.5", will I REALLY need to modify camber? How bad can I expect it to get? Honest answers please. I am looking to buy the least amount of suspension parts possible, so I only want to get what is absolutely necessary.

Will that drop REQUIRE LCA's to correct camber gone bad? How many degrees can I expect to get from lowering it in that range?

My car had uneven camber in the back from the factory. Just have it checked out. I was able to even it out with the whiteline camber adjustment bushings for the upper control arms.

Sportsguy83 06-07-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by raul (Post 987725)
My car had uneven camber in the back from the factory. Just have it checked out. I was able to even it out with the whiteline camber adjustment bushings for the upper control arms.

True. I think the proper answer is lower it, let it settle and have it checked. That way I know 1000% sure if I need correction or not. Was just wondering how has the experience been with people on that drop. Who installed your bushings?

raul 06-07-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 983627)
>:[ Pissed I bought and installed Koni+RCE Yellow combo now. :bonk:

Same boat.

raul 06-07-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 987732)
True. I think the proper answer is lower it, let it settle and have it checked. That way I know 1000% sure if I need correction or not. Was just wondering how has the experience been with people on that drop. Who installed your bushings?

Ernie Bello Motorsport in WPB. $299 with alignment included.

Sportsguy83 06-07-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by raul (Post 987738)
Ernie Bello Motorsport in WPB. $299 with alignment included.

Hmmm... a WPB drive might be in my future....

hanabie 06-07-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 987696)
I am buying Tarmac Zero's today. If I lower the car 1-1.5", will I REALLY need to modify camber? How bad can I expect it to get? Honest answers please. I am looking to buy the least amount of suspension parts possible, so I only want to get what is absolutely necessary.

Will that drop REQUIRE LCA's to correct camber gone bad? How many degrees can I expect to get from lowering it in that range?

someone told me that aggressive drops do require LCA because it's easier and cheaper in labor.

as for the chamber, I believe it also depends on which wheels you are using.
I dont know much haha.. but I would like to know this too. :)

swift996 06-07-2013 11:29 AM

These look really nice, I wish I went this route versus the Eibach R2s...perhaps I might swap down the road.

Sportsguy83 06-07-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hanabie (Post 987917)
someone told me that aggressive drops do require LCA because it's easier and cheaper in labor.

as for the chamber, I believe it also depends on which wheels you are using.
I dont know much haha.. but I would like to know this too. :)

I spoke with Myles on the phone, he told me to aim for a 1" drop, and if I stay at or above that, there would be no problems with geometry, so nothing else REQUIRED to be bought.

UnOvertime 06-07-2013 11:34 AM

I believe we might all have different answers for whether camber correction is needed for us. Will we be out of factory spec? yes of course. But will all need to get back there? I doubt it. Mine is a DD and as long as camber/toe aren't crazy and tires wear evenly and don't wear out crazy fast I am happy. We will see I guess.

JoeBoxer 06-07-2013 11:44 AM

In my personal car and another car we tried to align yesterday the right rear camber was over a degree more negative than the left rear. Just be prepared that you might have to buy some LCA's or camber bushings.


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