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dun3 06-05-2013 02:07 PM

such a great community. In about 2 weeks, you'll be comfortable. About 2 weeks after that (a month in essence) your confidence will be pretty up there. After a few months, you'll be blowing door's off SI's. Time and practice, then worry about rev matching and heel toe. That's just my 2 cents

strat61caster 06-05-2013 04:06 PM

I don't use the brakes hard enough to even think about heel toe on public roads.

Downshift, rev match (usually under 4k rpm), and light braking are more than adequate.

Lauren 06-05-2013 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 981549)
And for some reason it just really bugs me when people do this. I get nervous just coasting around in neutral - I need to feel connected to the drivetrain.

Exactly. You do not have full control of the car if you coast in neutral. You also use no fuel when you lift off in gear to slow down for lights etc. Engine braking is an important aspect of having control of the car.

Being a Brit from the beleagured isle otherwise known as the UK, I've been driving manuals for over 24 years. Most people here learn to drive in a manual.

Also I would say changing from 5th to second to take a corner is bad practice you should learn to go through the gears. Much better control that way too.

Sure you can roll up to some lights in 4th and just slip it into neutral to prevent stalling but the only time you should be in neutral is in this circumstance or when you are stationary.

For hill starts, use the handbrake that is what it is for. It's not an 'e' brake, this is a misnomer which come from most people driving autos. Riding the clutch is terrible for clutch wear and a pointless exercise. There is no need to get off the brake and try to avoid rolling backwards on a hill by being quick to get the clutch up and get on the throttle. Just use the handbrake, there is no shame in that.

Sure stuff like heel and toeing takes practice and also skill, but it's a technique that is worth learning if you are serious about your driving. Get the basics right first. It's no bad thing to blip the throttle on downchanges (even without braking) and this is easier to learn first.

Whitigir 06-05-2013 05:09 PM

LOL !!! Heel and Toes.....You guys are Funny to Advises the Op like this, or anyone for the Matter.

gily25 06-05-2013 05:47 PM

Know anyone with a pick-up or Jeep that has a manual? You'll learn to slow down for the turn and get your foot off the clutch in a bigger vehicle since the speed and bouncy-ness in those vehicles is less forgiving, you have an exaggerated reminder WHY you need to do things in a certain order. Also useful for lessons on not rocking the clutch, and getting started on a hill. *2 cents*

rokius 06-05-2013 07:35 PM

I love this community! Thanks for the kind comments everyone!

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chillywilly 06-06-2013 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 983707)
LOL !!! Heel and Toes.....You guys are Funny to Advises the Op like this, or anyone for the Matter.

Makes as much sense as teaching a 1 year old how to break dance and do air flares before learning how to walk :lol:

pascalbrax 06-06-2013 09:15 AM

This is a japanese car with a japanese engine (that's also upgrade-friendly).

This means it doesn't go BOOM if you don't rev match.

Here's what you usually do if you were European (this is not for bragging but for make sure you understand different countries have different costumes), see if there's something that can apply to you:

- you never downshift from 5th to 2nd straight.
(AKA you never skip gears when downshifting)
- but you may want to upshift from 2nd to 4th or 5th if you feel it.
- you want to downshift before the turn if you don't want to heel/toe.
- nobody who drives daily or commutes do wheel/toe unless you want to have som fun and waste some fuel.
- the 1st gear should only be used to move your car from a stop and you should upshift after 6~10 feet or less.
- if there's snow, you'll start in 2nd gear and pretend the 6th gear doesn't exist.
- don't try to learn how to rev match, you'll star rev matching naturally after a while if you keep enforcing yourself the 1st rules.

I'm not a pro driver or a pilot. If there's something that doesn't make any sense to you, feel free to correct me.

rokius 06-07-2013 06:46 PM

I'm getting the hang of rev matching guys. Exciting stuff haha.

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