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-   -   Are the HID's the big seller for you? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3689)

Dave-ROR 02-12-2012 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tachi1247 (Post 132477)
it is highly highly unlikely that there will be any options on the frs. Scion has never sold a car yet with options. Its one car fits all and then all the dealer accessories you want. To my knowledge, hids have never been offered as a dealer accessory by scion.

for what it is worth, the scion rep speaking to the media at the Chicago auto show Thursday told me there would be no options and I specifically asked about hids. I figure she would have mentioned them if those were going to be available.
I agree. I was just explaining why the other poster signed up for first 86. I've said or a long time now that scion wouldn't offer what people wanted if they expected options to make a frs like a brz limited.

86design 02-12-2012 01:52 PM
I would rather go with factory HID's then aftermarket... For some reason if you try to match the factory color with the aftermarket color they never match up and that's something that frustrates me

ayau 02-12-2012 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 132480)
I'm slightly brand specific (I'll admit it. I don't like the scion brand even though I could easily just take off the badge).

BRZ Premium
The exterior of the BRZ appeals to me more. I find it much more classy with a devious smiley face than the aggressive FRS look.

The interior HVAC appeals to me more. LOOK AT THAT CENTER CONSOLE. lol

Oh and the HIDs help me see at night. My eyes absorb an extensive amount of light which really hurts my eyes (somethings wrong with my retina) and at night I'd like to be able to see all the upcoming potholes as well as some really poorly lit areas.
The brz premium has te same center console as the frs.

tachi1247 02-12-2012 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 132483)
Meh, there are enough disadvantages of HIDs. I did some comparisons with a buddy that has an STI w/HIDs. I'd prefer my current Subaru projectors with some H7 rallye+65 bulbs over those, due to better color rendering and distance vision.

HIDs sure do light well right in front of the car, which is really useful in the city, but decent fog lights can do that job equally well.
From my personal experience, HIDs illuminate a larger area more brightly than conventional halogens and properly aimed fog lights will not illuminate the same area as the headlamps. I will gladly trade off the larger illuminated area for a little loss in color rendering. I'm hitting the brakes for a deer whether its light brown, dark brown, or purple.

KevinDuMa 02-12-2012 02:17 PM
Even though the premium BRZ and Fr-S have similar interiors, the overall look of the BRZ interior still looks better imo.

dsgerbc 02-12-2012 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tachi1247 (Post 132497)
From my personal experience, HIDs illuminate a larger area more brightly than conventional halogens and properly aimed fog lights will not illuminate the same area as the headlamps.
Please name make/model of the car your experience comes from.

My fogs+lowbeams illuminate the area similar to HIDs.

#87 02-12-2012 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Want.FR-S (Post 132364)
It depends on the size of your GPS. If it is like a 5" or less model, you still can mount it on the passenger side air vent and close the vent on that side if possible (or your just cool/heat your GPS by all means..). It will block your stereo but that is life.

Mounting to the window or to the dash is neither a good idea. Doing that will block your view anyway.
How do you mount it on an air vent? I've always just mount it on the windshield, it doesn't dangerously effect your view any more than glancing at a built in dash unit would.

Guff 02-12-2012 03:09 PM
Leaning towards Limited because of the creature comforts (Including HIDs) and I have come to absolutely LOVE the front end.

Zaku 02-12-2012 03:12 PM
T^T I wish we knew the price already so I know if if if... I could get a Limited too :(

tachi1247 02-12-2012 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 132501)
Please name make/model of the car your experience comes from.

My fogs+lowbeams illuminate the area similar to HIDs.
BMW 330i, z4, Porsche boxster, 360 modena, rx350, Acura tl

foglights are almost always aimed lower than the headlights and fan out much wider. These 2 factors both lead to a significant reduction in the depth of light foglights provide.

driving lights would do exactly what you describe but are illegal for street use in most states

I'm not disputing that on your particular car the foglights combined with upgraded bulbs may produce near HID levels of illumination, but I think it is a far stretch to say that this would be the case for most cars and the opinion of most other people.

dsgerbc 02-12-2012 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tachi1247 (Post 132537)
BMW 330i, z4, Porsche boxster, 360 modena, rx350, Acura tl
Didn't try the first couple, but did have some experience with the latter two. For me the balance of foreground lighting and distance lighting was not too comfortable when driving at night at highway speed. My point is that HIDs aren't universally better than decent halogen projectors. It depends one's eyes and external lighting on their commute routes.

Enemies 02-12-2012 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tachi1247 (Post 132497)
I will gladly trade off the larger illuminated area for a little loss in color rendering. I'm hitting the brakes for a deer whether its light brown, dark brown, or purple.
This had me laughing.

Enemies 02-12-2012 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ayau (Post 132494)
The brz premium has te same center console as the frs.
Wait, what? The god awful stereo is one thing that really bothers me about the FR-S. Granted that can be switched out, but it is part of the center console.

Longhorn248 02-12-2012 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Guff (Post 132519)
Leaning towards Limited because of the creature comforts (Including HIDs) and I have come to absolutely LOVE the front end.
I'm leaning towards the Limited just because I want to be a baller. Actually the more I think about it the more I wonder if I'll be disappointed without the fancy bits like the keyless entry/push button and the HVAC controls.


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