Originally Posted by PAImportTuner (Post 88194)

Most likely because the owner did a pulley, intercooler or intake system upgrade with no catch can allowing carbon and filter oil junk it up. Or they can tell by the tires in the front are bald to the rear = abuse. So many variables.

You know how much it cost Toyota for an Eaton M45/M62 unit? ~$300.. It'd cost you $1200 to replace.

You know how much a vortech unit cost a dealer? $~1400. It'd cost you $2200-2500 to replace.

I'd pick Eaton for price but I'd rather have a Vortech for efficiency, simplicity and bigger power.

Originally Posted by youngxlos (Post 88366)

if you are going to go with a different block why not just build the block that came with the car? seems dumb to me to go and find a different block to handle the boost when you can just build what you already have.


have you ever driven a car with over 200hp? once you get a taste of that power you always want more and more....

Originally Posted by youngxlos (Post 88366)

if you are going to go with a different block why not just build the block that came with the car? seems dumb to me to go and find a different block to handle the boost when you can just build what you already have.


have you ever driven a car with over 200hp? once you get a taste of that power you always want more and more....

Originally Posted by youngxlos (Post 88366)

if you are going to go with a different block why not just build the block that came with the car? seems dumb to me to go and find a different block to handle the boost when you can just build what you already have.

Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 88376)

lol i currently drive a 250hp sc400 and before that my daily was a 240hp s2000 ap2. i know what i like and don't need someone else telling me what i like.:bellyroll:

btw don't you drive a 2000 celica gt-s? am i missing something or are there upgrades under the hood?

Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 88451)

Im not sure it comes with age, but once you have a taste of power the feeling becomes so adolescent, and eventually you want more precision. (well thats what iv witnessed among my peers and myself) So you either opt for
a supercar that has both power and precision but at a higher cost or you opt for less power and precision for a lower cost. EG Miata .

Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 88350)

i prefer n/a and am quite satisfied with 200hp but there are plenty of people here that have been clamoring for more.

Originally Posted by youngxlos (Post 88366)

if you are going to go with a different block why not just build the block that came with the car? seems dumb to me to go and find a different block to handle the boost when you can just build what you already have.


have you ever driven a car with over 200hp? once you get a taste of that power you always want more and more....

Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 88451)

Not all engines are built with equality. Going for a more suitable block for big power is essential when searching for more power. Not many small displacement engines not built for forced induction can withstand aftermarket support. Especially an engine that has not yet hit the market or a engine that has only seen less than a 5 year life span.

In regards to the FA20. Its pretty clear that there are going to be some challenges for tuners wanting upwards of 350hp+. Which makes sourcing a block that can easily achieve those power goals more cost effective.



I know your post wasnt direct at me, but i want to respond to your post anyway. Iv owned several cars 400hp 300zxTT...350hp S14, 250hp rx7, and honestly im more and more wanting less power.

Im not sure it comes with age, but once you have a taste of power the feeling becomes so adolescent, and eventually you want more precision. (well thats what iv witnessed among my peers and myself) So you either opt for
a supercar that has both power and precision but at a higher cost or you opt for less power and precision for a lower cost. EG Miata

I myself am happy getting 200hp coming from 400hp. As long as the car responds like the wheels itself are an extension of you the driver, like arms and legs.

Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 88462)

+1 Based on the reviews, this car is already fun to drive on the track.



I'm all about having more options and a s/c is good means of additional power but it only makes more sense to drive the car first then start modifying later

What good is power w/out control... :lol:

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