But your post wasn't informative enough.

Oh now, you're blaming on me for you "assuming" stuff. Lol

You should know already that everything written here (specially test drive reviews), you should only take it as a grain of salt. Some may be true, but that doesn't mean it's true statement. Some may feel totally different.

I'm just simplely saying, if you want more power, go for GC.

Yeah I've been seeing some good deals for 2012 Mustang GTs as well. Crazy that you can get 412 hp for $25k these days! I've seen ones with the Brembo package for about $26k.

I ultimately decided to pass though because the Mustang is too big/heavy/tall to give me the driving experience I am looking for, and its real-world gas mileage is pretty bad (and I think gas prices will only go up from here). I wouldn't blame you if you jumped on that deal though, they're good cars for the money :)

A local dealership was advertising a black GT with Brembos for ~$27,300 after manuf rebate. Look around, you should be able to find similar deals. If I remember correctly, that price was about right when compared against truecar.

Truecar estimates $26,464 for a Mustang GT for me. Brembo package retails for $1695 so it doesn't seem unreasonable to get it thrown in for around $1000. Definitely a good bargain if you don't mind the rental car interior and 17/26 fuel economy.

Ford's rebate program appears to have ended last week. I bet that's the reason you can't find those deals anymore. I think the rebate was around $2500, so it was pretty significant.

Find a dealer that's trying to off-load their 2012 models. The 2013 Mustangs have significant improvements buyers want (front fascia, increased hp, standard HIDs, etc.) so dealers might be willing to offload the old 2012s for a bargain.

Also, Ford is going to release an all-new Mustang for 2014, so if you wait, you can probably pick up a 2013 model for cheap around this time next year.

My problem with the Mustang - no telescoping steering wheel. I'm 6'5, 6'6 on a good day and the driving position was slightly awkward. Interestingly enough, the BRZ fit like a glove :iono:. Cracking car though.

And why would you buy a mustang in it last model yet in its current generation? Supposely the 2014 model will be lighter and may have a independent rear suspension. Come on all cars need to have that if they think they are somewhat of a performance car!

How do you feel about the decision after seeing all these awesome reviews show up and the car becoming an INSTANT CLASSIC?

OMG a 2004 BMW? Out of warranty and almost 9 years old? Get out of here. But hey each their own. I am done with used cars. I want new.

I will admit the 2012 Mustang GT with the brembo package for $26K.

It's $34,285 for a 2013 Mustang GT with the GT track package in 6 speed manual, the best configuration for a 2013 Mutang GT. Way more expensive than a FR-S, almost $10k more.

Oh and there is a $500 rebate on the 2013 Mustang GT


On the 2012 Mustang GT, there is no way you will find one for $26k. Those are all gone if they ever existed. There is a $2750 discounts, so I could see you getting one in the upper 20K range if you are good negotiator.

Not to turn this into a Mustang thread, but here are two 2012 Mustang GTs w/ Premium Pack going for ~$6,000 off MSRP before negotiation.

http://www.koonssilverspringfordlinc...r&SBfuel=clear

MSRP on a 2012 Mustang GT w/ Brembo Pack is $32,200. If you can find a leftover on a dealer lot, you should be able to pick it up for $26-27k right now. The hard part is finding one.

On USAA's car buying service, they have a new 2012 Mustang GT w/ Brembos at $27,089.

Also, the interior is pretty nice in the new Mustangs, I'm not sure why you'd say it's rental car looking. Even without leather it's pretty nice. I think I like it better than the FR-S/BR-Z's...

http://img2.netcarshow.com/Ford-Must...llpaper_5a.jpg
http://img2.netcarshow.com/Scion-FR-...llpaper_27.jpg

I don't really think it's fair to compare the mustang with leather to the FR-S. Base Mustang GT vs BRZ Premium would be the two cars I would be shopping for and to my eyes the BRZ has a much nicer interior.

As far as material quality the 2012 Mustang has as much soft touch plastics as the BRZ(I sat in both at the AJC Auto Show). The only difference I see between both cars is whether you like a interior design from the 60's or the 90's.

My wife (the Mustang Fan in my family) hated the interior of the 2012 Mustang when she saw it at the AJC Auto show. Her biggest complaint? They changed the round HVAC vents from the 2005 to the shelf generic retangular ones. She said she would not buy the car for that one reason.

:iono:

Nice LOL Sounds like my wife.

OP or Mustang people should drive one back to back with an FR-S and get the big fat pig if that’s what you like. JK but not really.

Though I agree it's probably worth the wait, the Mustang GT performs like a BMW M3 for half the money, proving that you really don't need IRS to be a performance car.

Aside from the steering wheel and shift knob, that Mustang looks like a rental car interior to me. Blocky and unimaginitive; typical American car interior. The factory Recaro seats are a nice option, though! I'd definitely have to get one with them.

Toyota GT86 Limited come w all leather option. Ford is made here so of course they can do all those options without bumping huge mark up. It goes same with Toyota, they're made in Japan, so they can do leather option with huge mark up

I almost caved into the following cars on Craig's List:

2001 Audi S4
AP1 S2000
2006 Hawkeye STi

This will be the first Toyota I have owned, I have owned nothing but Japanese cars. I grew up with my dad owning a couple Cressida's, 1st gen supra, and my mom drives a rav 4 now. lol My brother drives a 400 HP STi, and my dad drives a 2011 WRX limited edition. The only non-Japanese car in the family was a 98 Volvo Low Pressure Turbo AWD wagon... god my family are a bunch of JDM snobs, lol!

I almost caved and looked for a used 240 or S2k, but couldnt find an unmolested example at a decent price. And the insurance on the S2000 would kill me.

speaking of S2000, I think the 86 chassis is much more capable and controllable compare to the S2k.

S2000 is just too nervous and you really need to push it hard to get 100% out of it.

yeah but that live axle on real roads, is a pain in the ass, theres a few back roads my friend in his mustang cant follow me on at the same speeds i do them at because the lumps in the road unsettle his back end and the back end starts to misbehave and my celica has very worn shocks from tracking it and it doesnt unsettle one bit...

I found a few very nice examples near me for around $20k with less than 20k miles on them. Very, very tempting but I'm just not a Honda fan. I don't know what it is about Hondas that puts me off. I really like the S2000 but something about owning a Honda... I just can't do it. Same reason I had to get the Subaru; I refuse to be a Scion owner.

Ironic, I feel about Subaru the way you feel about Honda. I would rather drive a Scion with it's stigma then a Subaru.

I like what the chap from Motor Trend said when comparing the V6 Mustang to the BRZ: "Now it might have the best live rear axle ever, but that's a bit like saying you're the healthiest guy in Intensive Care" :bellyroll:

Yeah, that bit was great! I'm glad this comparison got posted; I was really looking forward to it.

Delusional guy...what are you going to tell people when they say, "hey man nice Scion?" (when people say that to me I'll be like yeah, I'm enjoying my Lexus transmission, and fuel system!)

that's all...

S2000
 

I owned an S2000 several years ago and all the only advice I would give is sit in the seats for a long time before you buy and make sure you're comfortable. The seats that are in the car are beautiful but things are so cramped that those are about the biggest seats that will fit. They hit me the wrong way and it was exceedingly uncomfortable after about five minutes. There are no after market seats that fit in the car except for the tiny track seats that would make it impossible for me to get in the car.

I felt stupid for buying the car but luckily sold it for about what I paid for it. If you fit, great... it's an awesome car (though I prefer the roominess of the FR-S). Just make sure you test it out really well before buying.

Personally I think this quote applies to all cars, including the FR-S/BRZ.

On what grounds? That I found two S2000's with <20k mi. for less than $20k or that I don't like Hondas? The last one I'll agree to. The first one, I found two 2004's.

It had to be done, I just couldn't pass up on a brand new 25k GT stang in black. As much as I was wanting an FRS, the dealer lip service I recived from multiple dealers, along with the cluelessness just left a bad taste in my mouth. And don't even get me started in Subuaru; you would think I was purchasing a prestigious Ferrari Enzo. But I don't think this is the end of the line for me and this car. I'm sure I will be back. In the meantime, I have enjoyed lurking, and being part of the excitement of this car. I truly hope it works out for everyone who pruchases one!

I feel you man, this is another reason I chose Scion over Subaru, because the Scion price is "fixed" and they wouldn't jerk me around as much as Subaru dealerships and their "over zealous market value markups".

I had a sales lady and she was really cool. Even though she didn't know what the car she was selling me, (or was even coming for that matter) I educated her and she seemed surprised, then offered me a job selling cars, and I was like "lol, no thanks, I already sold cars for a few years, and refuse to go back". It was by far the most stressful and difficult job I have ever had. And this is coming from a somewhat gear-head type aficionado.

I don't blame some of the members of this site for going to multiple dealerships both Scion and Suby just incase those jerks try to take crack their wallets...

I can see a lot of the similarities to the Twins when I'm driving me Mustang GT. The corner windows are useless, there is a huge blindspot and the mirrors are smaller than I'm used to but they work. Coming from a truck where I had great visibility it's a little unnerving. I love the low driving position, my dad drives an old Buick Regal coupe and I would say the Mustang seats are 10x better than the "Buick bench." The backseats are uncomfortable for my <6' stature but I fit, just barely. The steering is hit or miss, sometimes I feel in complete control, while sometimes it feels like somebody else is steering. The old foxbody Mustang is on the edge of what I consider acceptable in size and weight(mine is probably 3200lbs) and I am not going to try this again, "classic" parts are expensive $$$.

Definitely still considering a FRS/BRZ in the near future tho.

If you're stuck on the brand or badges you're looking in the wrong place. The S2000 is anything but a typical Honda.

Idk guys a 2006 STI for 15,000 at 60k miles is pretty tempting... saw that today at work on craigslist

I would have done it, as this was the ad I was eyeballing, and the owner said I had first crack at it, but had close to 130K miles.

http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/2994428479.html

Oh wow, he raised the price by $1000, I was locked in at 15K lol :iono:
engine bay looks really clean, but I can spot some wear in the interior though...

The mileage made me cringe a little bit however your right the engine bay looks damn good. If you do decide to go through with it im sure you can talk him down a grand or 2

I think I might have to pass up my BRZ because I'm trying to get my hands on this baby as long as it doesn't exceed a certain price I'm willing to pay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...iewitem=#v4-41