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epifan 02-11-2013 03:01 AM

Yes, in special "dump" format using Pro version only
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Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 726646)
Can you read the OEM cal with this?


ft_sjo 02-11-2013 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epifan (Post 726672)
Yes, in special "dump" format using Pro version only

Thanks. Do you have the latest UK cal with the idle fix in it?

epifan 02-11-2013 04:40 AM

Yes
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Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 726731)
Thanks. Do you have the latest UK cal with the idle fix in it?


xjohnx 02-11-2013 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by brzEdit (Post 726474)
No, Ecutek maps will carry a proprietary encryption applied to them. So I doubt you will be able to ready them using our software.

Thanks.

For the record, i was just asking to make sure those guys were safe. I wouldn't know what to do with the rom even if i had it.

:respekt:

ft_sjo 02-11-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epifan (Post 726741)
Yes

Thanks, and could you also please confirm if realtime map tracing is enabled for all x/y tables and datalogging?

epifan 02-11-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 726994)
Thanks, and could you also please confirm if realtime map tracing is enabled for all x/y tables and datalogging?

Yes, sure. This is standard feature of all ecuEdit-based products

Z0rr0 02-11-2013 11:37 AM

@epifan

Can you post some screenshots of what control we have over the DI?

mad_sb 02-11-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Z0rr0 (Post 727031)
@epifan

Can you post some screenshots of what control we have over the DI?

I posted a couple in the DI info thread.. We have mix ratio (DI vs PFI) as well as Injection timing in Crank Angle Degrees.

I scheduled my first dyno session for Thursday the 14th. I will be testing some changes to the mix and timing to see what affect they have on toque, I think this is where most of the tuners are getting the dip gains.. the reasearch i have done indicates that in the bottom of the dip a ratio of 60% DI 40% port would give the best torque and fuel economy.. factory is 100% DI in that range. Also playing with the injection timing allows you to line up the injection event with intake valve timing to get the best charge cooling.

ATL BRZ 02-11-2013 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mad_sb (Post 727045)
I posted a couple in the DI info thread.. We have mix ratio (DI vs PFI) as well as Injection timing in Crank Angle Degrees.

I scheduled my first dyno session for Thursday the 14th. I will be testing some changes to the mix and timing to see what affect they have on toque, I think this is where most of the tuners are getting the dip gains.. the reasearch i have done indicates that in the bottom of the dip a ratio of 60% DI 40% port would give the best torque and fuel economy.. factory is 100% DI in that range. Also playing with the injection timing allows you to line up the injection event with intake valve timing to get the best charge cooling.

Where are you going to have the dyno session?

mad_sb 02-11-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 727052)
Where are you going to have the dyno session?

Balanced Performance, 9:30 AM :) . It's a dynojet (fail) but they seem very professional and organized... I miss having access to the dynodynamics i used to tune on :(

I have two hours booked, It may or may not take that long lol... depends on how the changes i have already made do and how my ideas about the DI system pan out.

King Tut 02-11-2013 12:21 PM

The SpecE30 guys just had a dyno day at Balanced Performance not too long ago. They have a pretty nice dyno cell there. I don't believe their dyno is not one of the newer load control Dynojets though so WOT will be all you can tune.

ML 02-12-2013 12:59 PM

any update on availability epifan? AutoX season is here.

epifan 02-12-2013 01:17 PM

The software has been available to purchase for a couple weeks. As some other members have already been using it and posting images to the community.

NickFRS 02-14-2013 05:32 AM

PRE racing in PNW just got this. My car is being tuned on the 26th. I'll post results.

*edit* Also if a shop gets a license to tune unlimited cars the only thing the customer "us" is paying for is for the tune. There is no license for the car or cable that "we" have to pay for. I'm paying PRE $300 bucks and bam getting the car tuned. But after their FEB deal of 50% all tunes the price goes up to $600 bucks. But thats no license and a on dyno tune thats directly for your car. Not some simple reflash... In essence it's like a open source for the customer base.

*second edit* Has anyone tuned a car with this yet?

zohare 02-15-2013 03:39 AM

Has there been another thread with this info? (Also I can't see any dam photos. Love work PCs...) Really starting to get excited about this. Was just talking to my friend about his DSM and his open source tuning... Bastard. Anyhow. Lots of features. We were playing with it and I couldn't help but think how nice it would be... UniChip just isn't quite to my liking yet I don't think. Be really really really really (did I say really?) cool if we got a tuning section and someone had the skills to develop a base E85 map...

AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. If someone gets rid of that torque dip, I'll literally donate to you for your benevolence and buy this software... I have an A/T, and with the taller gears, and IT KILLS ME when I'm in that zone. Out of habit with my other two cars, that's typically where my mind likes the motor to zip around at too! (Miata is running. WOO! 01 VVT Swap- also in need of tuning. Hm... E85 miata? Been done? ;P)
Anyhow. @epifan and @brzEdit really appreciate this break into another option.

ft_sjo 02-15-2013 05:32 AM

How long does it take to reflash the cal?

epifan 02-15-2013 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 736303)
How long does it take to reflash the cal?

flash process takes ~1.5 minutes

ft_sjo 02-15-2013 09:07 AM

epifan- The personal edition doesn't allow you to configure custom maps, however I have seen you have worked with some of the guys on here to add new tables to the system.

Will extra tables be given to all Personal edition owners as they are found? And if so will there be a time limit?

epifan 02-15-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 736445)
Will extra tables be given to all Personal edition owners as they are found?

yes, sure

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 736445)
And if so will there be a time limit?

New maps will be added as soon as they will be found

mad_sb 02-15-2013 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 736303)
How long does it take to reflash the cal?

My Timer always say 2 minutes plus or minus a few seconds

jedibow 02-15-2013 01:56 PM

epifan,

Do you already have a source to share defined map locations, and definitions? This sound exactly like how Ecuflash started out back in the day.

Also how is the XML editor setup, and how user friendly is it?

epifan 02-15-2013 02:06 PM

brzEdit is not "OpenSource" product. This is complete tuning suite with user-friendly interface. As I said before, Personal version, unlike the Pro version, don't have any ability to find maps, create defs and explore ECU bins as raw hex file.

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Originally Posted by jedibow (Post 736985)
epifan,

Do you already have a source to share defined map locations, and definitions? This sound exactly like how Ecuflash started out back in the day.

Also how is the XML editor setup, and how user friendly is it?


jedibow 02-15-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epifan (Post 736999)
brzEdit is not "OpenSource" product. This is complete tuning suite with user-friendly interface. As I said before, Personal version, unlike the Pro version, don't have any ability to find maps, create defs and explore ECU bins as raw hex file.


That was not meant as a bad comment, I was stating that much like open source (if you get the pro kit) then one could locate and define maps themselves. Sorry if that wasn't clear. If people jump on this and share information (much like the evo community did with open source) then this could be a powerful tuning solution for the BRZ, GT86, and FR-s.

Which leads me to my next question, if new maps are defined and located will you be releasing updates to existing users?

epifan 02-15-2013 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedibow (Post 737011)
Which leads me to my next question, if new maps are defined and located will you be releasing updates to existing users?

I answered on same question few posts before: yes, sure :thumbsup:

King Tut 02-19-2013 11:09 AM

Have you had any issues flashing BRZ/FR-Ss with your software? What happens if a reflash fails in the middle leaving me with a half flashed ECU? I have had a very bad experience with flashing my car with EcuTek, and I am just wondering if I would have the same issues with BRZEdit.

FA20Club.com 02-19-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 743991)
Have you had any issues flashing BRZ/FR-Ss with your software? What happens if a reflash fails in the middle leaving me with a half flashed ECU? I have had a very bad experience with flashing my car with EcuTek, and I am just wondering if I would have the same issues with BRZEdit.

I had him update the drivers last week which should help prevent this from happening again. The earlier drivers had a few bugs in them that Mervyn@Ecutek instructed me to promptly update the drivers and tell all customers to do the same. I have 1 customer lose his license x3 from his hardware/driver issues on his laptop. No such issues as of late and hopefully King Tut is set now. The only inconvenience is getting a new license issued from your tuner thats about it.

Dynotronics1 02-19-2013 12:11 PM

ahh, thank you Tony. I was wondering why it was a hassle for him. But looks like you have it covered!

King Tut 02-19-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 744095)
I had him update the drivers last week which should help prevent this from happening again. The earlier drivers had a few bugs in them that Mervyn@Ecutek instructed me to promptly update the drivers and tell all customers to do the same. I have 1 customer lose his license x3 from his hardware/driver issues on his laptop. No such issues as of late and hopefully King Tut is set now. The only inconvenience is getting a new license issued from your tuner thats about it.

I tried that, and it didn't work. It isn't just my car or my cable or my laptop. Everyone that has tried to reflash my ECU has had issues including a Master tuner. The latest solution I was told was to make sure the hood is closed, close the doors, lock the car, unlock the car, open the door, close the door and then reflash. It almost sounds like flashing my ECU involves black magic of some kind, haha. That inconvenience of getting a new license issued from your tuner each time a reflash fails was a large inconvenience for me, but this is a BRZEdit thread, so I just want to know the process for partial flashes or what happens should a flash fail in the middle.

I also wanted to say thanks to Tony for helping me try to get the ECU reflashed. I was reaching out to everyone I could think of for help getting EcuTek to work.

FA20Club.com 02-19-2013 12:15 PM

Well, he isnt one of my customers he just contacted me last week to see if I had any similar issues thats all.

Shit Luck 02-19-2013 01:14 PM

is this system capable of doing all the good stuff?
i.e.- launch control, wot box, turning off cat codes etc?

ft_sjo 02-20-2013 09:44 AM

Is this product ready today for forced induction? Can you scale the MAF and MAP sensors, or run MAP only?

Hix 02-20-2013 10:47 AM

Wrong Thread post mistake

ft_sjo 02-20-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hix (Post 746254)
From looking at their website it looks like the UniQ+ will do that but I don't see where it has been done at this point.

UniQ+ is nothing to do with BRZEdit.

epifan 02-20-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 746158)
Is this product ready today for forced induction? Can you scale the MAF and MAP sensors, or run MAP only?

You can scale MAF&MAP sensors. There is no MAF-less feature yet.

epifan 02-20-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shit Luck (Post 744268)
i.e.- launch control,

working on it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shit Luck (Post 744268)
iturning off cat codes etc?

yes

Shit Luck 02-20-2013 12:19 PM

So the 499 version is all I would need to buy to be able to load tunes.
Are there tuners out there doing custom tunes for specific vehicles?

epifan 02-20-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shit Luck (Post 746433)
So the 499 version is all I would need to buy to be able to load tunes.

If you want edit your tunes go with Personal version
If you want just load tunes from Pro users go with Lite version ($199)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shit Luck (Post 746433)
Are there tuners out there doing custom tunes for specific vehicles?

Wait for Pro tuners start to offer their solutions

Shit Luck 02-20-2013 12:36 PM

ok
I assume the tunes are "for sale" from tuners.
I really have no desire to tune myself on this car so lite might be a good option.
What else do I need? Specific cable or license?

SkullWorks 02-20-2013 12:51 PM

you will need a tactrix 2.0 cable.

www.tactrix.com

Hix 02-20-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 746332)
where ft_sjo quoted me being a dumbass

Crap wrong thread. Was checking out both at the same time and posted in the wrong one thinking I was in the other... Deleted post.


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