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Demandred7 12-06-2012 12:10 AM

To Scion:
Scion is known for customization, when can we expect to do that since there are next to no options yet (eg. fog lights, spoiler, and TRD accessories)?

To Tada San:
What moment in the development of the vehicle gave you the most satisfaction?

ok180 12-06-2012 05:33 AM

What is your favourite colour for the 86?

no_name 12-06-2012 10:56 AM

Maybe as a bonus question: Can you give us any more hints about Toyota's other upcoming sports cars?

Supergoji 12-06-2012 11:30 AM

How much power can the engine and driveline withstand reliably? people have already modified the car to past 500hp.

Rampage 12-06-2012 11:37 AM

Well, you blew me out of the water when you said that I can not ask about future models, specifically the MR-S. If you do not come up with enough great questions then please ask him about future plans. Obviously congratulate him on the success of the FR-S/BRZ and all the acclaim the car has received.

vh_supra26 12-06-2012 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by no_name (Post 593961)
Maybe as a bonus question: Can you give us any more hints about Toyota's other upcoming sports cars?

+1

ST185RC 12-06-2012 12:06 PM

Dear Tada-san: Don't ever stop being so awesome. I've driven Toyotas all my life. I drove an Accord for 2 months and went straight back into an AE92.

Are there any plans to bring back the GT-Four monicker? My GT-Four RC that I imported directly from Japan had an engine fire and left too soon at 135K KM (Less than 85,000 miles) :( I hope to replace my GT-Four RC one day with another brand new GT-Four, even if it's a Caldina, please bring her here!!

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...d/img_0522.jpg

Pic of the twins:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...d/img_0517.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...d/IMG_1111.jpg

Her shoes were fitted and now mounted on my FR-S in her memory:

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7283/photoqok.jpg


I think the folks at www.alltrac.net deserve some attention as well. They helped me through a tough time when I lost my car http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewto...p?f=62&t=43984. They've kept the GT-Four name alive to this day.

JayNutter 12-06-2012 12:11 PM

Please ask him the following questions:

What is your name?
What is your quest?
What is your favorite color?

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

86pro 12-06-2012 12:42 PM

One question: For a hardcore toyota owner, will there be engine parts like the ones on the old ae86 engine? The high rpm formula atlantic n spec engines(race engine) from trd.

Gords_zenith 12-06-2012 12:54 PM

To Tada San

I own a Subaru BRZ Sport Tech ( Canadian model) and when I lift my hood the first thing I notice is the vast space there is around the engine. I know this may not appy to you, but was the car originally spec'd to have a 6 cylinder either from the original release date or is that an option for "upgraded version STI". Because from what I see, I would think that the transmission could be pushed father back and the shift linkage shortened to accommodate a flat 6 that could be a direct Porche Boxster or Cayman fighter. This would push power into the 300hp range easily. I would think doing this would shorten the drive shaft so that an aluminum or carbon fiber could be used, as it would be cheaper as it would not have to be as robust to resist torsional forces. My second question, why is the rev limit set to where it is on the FA20? I have driven the car hard numerous times and it is the only car that seems to "run" into its limiter. I'm thinking that another 500 rpm would be very easy to accommodate, and deliver more power as well as it would essentially lengthen the gear ratios making 0-100 km/h a faster time as it would elimate the 2-3 shift. I look forward to hearing from you. I also want to thank you personally for designing and engineering an amazing car, and bringing back the driving fun factor. You did this without resorting to a watered down econobox with special parts to make it look and feel like a sports car, when in fact that's usually not the case.

Sincerely,

Gord

track_warrior 12-06-2012 12:58 PM

Questions:

1- Mr. Tada-San first of all thank you for producing one of the greatest sports cars i have ever driven. Secondly i wanted to ask you what are your plans with the subaru joined venture, so in other words how long have the two companies agreed to share engineering and parts?

2- Any plans on skipping the scion brand and keeping the car true to its roots and introducing it again as a Toyota 86 in the united states?

Kind Regards,

NC

RavenOverride 12-06-2012 01:20 PM

My Question would be: What happened to the original planned interiour. For example the zipper for Storage or the cockpit with the tft-panel? That's great, but now it is somehow "standard".

And are there any plan to sell such an concept? Maybe as TRD or Premium Version?

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slizoth 12-06-2012 01:27 PM

To Tada-san

Are there any plans to release TRD or STI accessories for the BRZ? If so what are they?

I purchased a Premium and would like some of the features of the limited (push button start, keyless entry). Assuming this is not possible, I would still be interested in staying up to date on all available accessories for the car as they come out from Toyota/Subaru.

wrxgoose 12-06-2012 01:35 PM

unfortunately i don't have time to go through all the posts right now, so i can't see if my question has been asked already.

"now that the car has been released, if you could have changed anything about the car (pre-release) what would you change and why?"

ST185RC 12-06-2012 01:37 PM

This thread makes me so excited. It's like writing a letter to santa the first time.

AhoAmeko 12-06-2012 01:51 PM

Yamaha involvement...
 
I have one question:

Toyota is a long time collaborator with Yamaha.
Is there plans if any to involve Yamaha with further development of the engine like most of the high performance Toyota engines?
I know it's primarily a Subaru engine but Yamaha has always help develop their high performance engines, example BEAMS 3SGE, 4AGE, JZ engines and the powerful 1LR-GUE in the LFA.

ScionFamily 12-06-2012 02:18 PM

Will TRD make a super charger?!?!?!?!? So I can :burnrubber:

xrs 12-06-2012 02:32 PM

Will the car be offered in yellow? If so, you can call it Rising Sun Yellow. :thumbsup:

Cloud51ve 12-06-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMenrique (Post 589859)
"And after production if there was anything HE would change what would it be?"

Thanks!

I second this

jacjac3 12-06-2012 03:59 PM

We should ask him if he is aware about all these issues (CEL, cricket)! And what is being done to fix it!

FRS2000 12-06-2012 04:15 PM

Question/Comment for the CE
 
For Tada-San...
1) Any plans to use same platform for other vehicles...like Toyota/Lexus in US market?
2) I hope next generation FR-S has more camber/toe adjustability and uses
5 x 114 wheel bolt pattern. This would make the car much more
aftermarket friendly.

Bristecom 12-06-2012 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST185RC (Post 594082)
Dear Tada-san: Don't ever stop being so awesome. I've driven Toyotas all my life. I drove an Accord for 2 months and went straight back into an AE92.

Are there any plans to bring back the GT-Four monicker? My GT-Four RC that I imported directly from Japan had an engine fire and left too soon at 135K KM (Less than 85,000 miles) :( I hope to replace my GT-Four RC one day with another brand new GT-Four, even if it's a Caldina, please bring her here!!

I know how you feel. The ST-185 GT-Four is one of my all time favorite cars. If it weren't for the 97-99 Eclipse GSX, which I liked a little more, I would have got one of those Celicas instead. I love that sleek styling and having all wheel drive in a compact, lightweight coupe.

But the 86/FR-S/BRZ is still pretty close in styling and size other than it being rear wheel drive of course. If they make an AWD version of the 86/FR-S/BRZ, I would likely buy one as long as they still manage to keep it responsive and fun. But until then, I will just enjoy the FR-S for what it is and have my Eclipse on the side for when I want AWD traction. ;)

BTW, what specifically are you wanting/missing? The AWD? The turbo Toyota engine? That particular styling?

just86 12-06-2012 04:37 PM

I only have one question.
When is Scion release series frs coming out?
I'm still waiting to buy an frs with 86 headlights, I've been waiting for so long

Guff 12-06-2012 04:51 PM

Ichi, you got your work cut out for you....

Cheddar 12-06-2012 05:47 PM

Id like to ask why did everyone in the world get the nice exhaust tips and US get stuck with these small ugly ones?

gonzo 12-06-2012 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheddar (Post 594740)
Id like to ask why did everyone in the world get the nice exhaust tips and US get stuck with these small ugly ones?



moolah! You can't sell target young people (the point of scion) with a car that costs 30k, at least not with this economy. :/

SVTSHC 12-06-2012 06:35 PM

First, Thank you. I mean that from the bottom of my heart, Thank you. This was something the automotive world needed, to remind people that you can make a car fun without giving it gobs of horsepower.

Second, Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions; and thanks Ichi for being our middleman lol.


Third and (my real question), I know in the auto industry it's taboo to give expected dates but in the near future will we be able to option out the FRS to parallel what is offered on the GT86? Not so much the interior colors but more the HID's, dual zone climate, etc... (don't need them stock, but would like them as options)

Levi 12-06-2012 06:47 PM

For Tada-San:
  • Any track focused, but street legal (i.e. Porsche 911 GT3 RS) version planned?
  • Thanks to the collaboration with Subaru, now Toyota has a Flat-4 engine for its entry sports-car. Any plan on developing this concept/idea further and making a Flat-6, say, for the Supra?

n8dog11914 12-06-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subie (Post 591295)
What drove the decision to use D4S instead of either simply direct or port injection? Why not go the route of only using one or the other like all other companies (that I know of)? What advantages does it offer in terms of efficiency, performance, or otherwise?


+1 on the above questions and second...

I'm an engineer, I know that compromises had to be made to meet a certain margin, price target, target audience, manufacturing issues, etc.

What is the one thing that you wish you would not have had to compromise on? For example, they had to lower the rev limiter from 8000 rpm to 7500 rpm due to fuel efficiency, etc. Basically, what's the one thing you had to eliminate that was on the initial concept?

Last, thanks for taking time out of your day to inform the 86 fans.

SubieNate 12-06-2012 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavenOverride (Post 594207)
My Question would be: What happened to the original planned interiour. For example the zipper for Storage or the cockpit with the tft-panel? That's great, but now it is somehow "standard".

And are there any plan to sell such an concept? Maybe as TRD or Premium Version?

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http://i.auto-bild.de/ir_img/7/1/4/6...7145ce5610.jpg

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that that interior was never part of Tada-san's vision for the 86 and more a product of a separate team that takes care of concept car creation.

Nathan

ichitaka05 12-06-2012 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guff (Post 594647)
Ichi, you got your work cut out for you....

Dude, if I didn't like you guys (or this forum), I wouldn't even think for sec or consider do this kind of extra work... but I do like you guys and this forum, so I'll do what I can on my side.

I can't be good as Moto-san, but some day...

EDIT: Also guys, some of the questions you guys are asking are already being answered in this thread or other threads, so please search before you ask :)

4U-GSE 12-06-2012 10:04 PM

This one is for Scion USA:

I know that Scion is known for their "Release Series" models with unique color paints. Are there any plans for a release series of the FR-S with the iconic "panda" (black and white) color scheme of the original Hachi Roku?

gmookher 12-06-2012 10:56 PM

when will we see US spec factory SC models??

SixSpeed 12-06-2012 10:58 PM

Since Scion is taking part in this, my question(s) are for them:

Can you offer a better range of options for the FR-S? You have a monospec state of mind, but most owners (current or potential) feel shafted here in North America compared to around the world. Why do I have to choose between affordability (FR-S, Toyota College Program) and better features & security (BRZ Limited)?

A Related question to both Scion and Toyota:

Why not offer a midrange option of the 86 under the Toyota Marquee here in North America? As to Tada-San, why make the double-din dash wider than a normal stereo? The stereos overseas are nice, but the stereos here in North America are butt-ugly (save for the bespoke) are not without faults (BRZ Navi for example) and I don't see the need to buy a dash kit for a normal sized stereo, if I have the desire to change it.

SixSpeed 12-06-2012 11:01 PM

One More question to Tada-San:

Since Toyota has a joint share in Subaru (Hence these wonderful cars you've brought us), Any chance for a World Rally Blue or Sonic Blue option on the FR-S/86/GT86?

sal 12-06-2012 11:44 PM

What do you think is the future of the sports car?

Grip Ronin 12-06-2012 11:49 PM

why do we have this torque dip and what is the most efficient way to increase power without forced induction?

ahausheer 12-07-2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grip Ronin (Post 595453)
why do we have this torque dip and what is the most efficient way to increase power without forced induction?


Id like to second this. Perhaps he can comment on the peak/dip/peak nature of the torque curve.

FRSjeff 12-07-2012 12:53 AM

I want to first say I love the way this car drives, feels and looks!

I do have some questions for both Tada-San AND Scion/Toyota regarding the quality/reliability of my FR-S:

1- Why did at least a handful of models have this "check engine light" issue? This is really not very good "Toyota Quality;" would you agree?
Mine is one of these that was affected; it was remedied with a new ECU, but, I'm concerned about its long term reliability and driving satisfaction; so far, I'm not really satisfied as it still idles strange (dipping and somewhat shaky, some of the time.) Is a permanent fix coming to give me confidence that this car can and will run SMOOTHLY for years to come?

2- Another quality issue is the very annoying "popping/crackle" sound from the rear. It's also kind of embarrassing when my passengers ask "what's the weird sound back there?" Subaru has a TSB addressing the issue, Scion/Toyota does NOT. Is Scion/Toyota going to very soon fix this noisy problem in my car? I really hope so!

3- My third concern is probably more directed to just Scion. Is there going to soon be a SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED update for the BeSpoke iPhone app for the "premium" stereo unit that I paid an extra $845 for??

This car would be nearly perfect if these issues were fixed. ;)

Thank you for your consideration! :)

Bristecom 12-07-2012 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubieNate (Post 594914)
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that that interior was never part of Tada-san's vision for the 86 and more a product of a separate team that takes care of concept car creation.

Nathan

Yeah, good point. The teams that create the concepts are often so far out from what the company actually has in store for production. LOL


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