Just called Lucas Oil
 

I'm right. Just talked to the technician at Lucas and he states that the Fuel Stabilizer and Upper Lubricant is still in their Octane Booster. All you have to do is touch the stuff and feel the lube in it. Anyway, he states that Cali 91 turns into 94 octane using a half bottle at fill-up. I'm just trying to help here. I use the NOS Racing Formula with my JDM Motor '92 Maxima for 4 years. I also used the Lucas Oil as well. The NOS is very expensive. $13.99 per 20 gallon bottle and contains Nitro Methane along with MMT. If you live in an area where there is only 91 octane gas..... just try it. What do you have to lose other than a funnel and $9.

Nissan uses 0ctane Boost when testing the GTR in Cali. hmmm

http://lucasoil.com/products/fuel-tr...fuel-treatment

this is what is in the boost also

I am curious how any octane booster adds more power, much less 30HP as previously stated. (Legit question not a flame)

Don't know about the '92 Maxima, but it may worth noting that:



http://i.imgur.com/T5dcLJE.png




Also, I am curious what parts is the Upper Lubricant supposed to lubricate?

Well since they shouted "DOES NOT" I think they are pretty concerned about it!

I usually trust mainly Shell or Chevron for my Premium gas on the car, I tend to get max MPG or to what MFG advertised it as.

Costco gas :thumbup:

and he's full of shit!:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I don't know how talking to the "technician" of the product makes someone right.

Like no shit they're going to say it works; would he rather have heard "Nawww our product doesn't actually work and it's a scam lol"?

That isn't proof.

Seriously, whatever is cheap and not sketchy.

Marketing and snake oil don't earn my money, 99% of all fuels are the same, quality is tightly regulated.

Let the shill have his fun.

Im still scared if i refill with 93 oct (10% ethanol) will harm the engine

It won't!:rolleyes:
:rolleyes:

Never thought this would make it to 10 pages. I love it. :thanks::popcorn:

Will probably make it to 20 if we use Lucas Thread Booster.

What makes you think we are done ....... :D


humfrz

That's the correct thing to believe in, top tier gas is noticeably better because the method of transportation and storage is usually better.

I have a bottle of that for super cheepz just pm me.:thumbup:

You guys win...
 

I concede. I'm done talking about Octane Booster. I have never put any in my FRS or Stage 3 Roush. 93 V-Power is just fine where I live. I knew there would be a stink created, but my JDM Nissan engine ran so much better with it. It wanted the boost and I was very happy to spend the extra money.

You guys are rough on me though, I'm 59 and you should show some respect for your elders. Also, if you were in the same room with me... I think you would use your words wisely. I will go back to my shop and brush off the hurt some of you inflicted and get over it. At least in my mind I had fun with octane boost. This is the last that I will mention the subject.

Age has nothing to do with misinformation.

Tcoat is around your age, by the way.

Why is this thread so long...

It's only long because of the misinformation and everyone rebutting said misinformation and making jokes about it along the way.

Speaking just for me, I wasn't rough on you, nor I disprespected you. I just see no reason to take anyone's word for truth, even if they are firm believers (probably less so in such case). Unless they can support their claims with properly collected evidence and logic. Age has nothing to do it. And I am not that young either.

If anything, I find making claims without any support and demanding that others believe you just because you are 59 and you say so, more disrespectful than asking for evidence or explanation.


Oh, and I am still curious what a lubricant added to fuel is supposed to lubricate.

Most of us don't even know your age or care and we weren't being rough on you. We simply don't trust snake oil with no evidential proof.

Lol @ the back end of this thread. I kept avoiding after the first page but it keeps getting bumped. Finally read through and now this is all I can think of.

@Big D Design

Well, now, old timer, I hope you don't go away "butt hurt", as some of the youngsters on here would say.

Back-in-the-day, our generation would usually take the word of the old time mechanics as "truth". But, back then, things (auto knowledge) didn't change that fast. For example, there wasn't a hell of a lot of difference in the way a Model A Ford engine worked ...... than a 1950 automobile engine worked.

Plus, the choices were fewer (simpler); detergent or non-detergent oil; alcohol or Prestone anti-freeze; Champion or AC spark plugs; leaded or non-leaded, high-test or regular gasoline.

A timing light, dwell meter, feeler gauge, a screwdriver, a pair of pliers, a ½ & 9/16 wrench was all that was needed to tune up an engine. Throw in a ¾” wrench and you could overhaul an engine.

Knowledge of “how to do it” was either from the older mechanic or tattered and torn, grease smudged maintenance manual (if you could find it - thrown behind the shelf, under the mechanics bench). Today, the Internet is full of information – so EVERYBODY can be an “expert” without ever getting their hands greasy.

So, where do us old, shade tree mechanics fit it ……. ?? Very carefully ……;)

For example, you may have noted, that I preface many of my comments and suggestions with phrases like “back in the day” and "it’s my understanding that", or "it's been my experience" ……etc.

So, us old guys got to stick together if we are going to keep the young-ens in line. After all, we know how to tune an old engine with our ears ……. if they lose power on their laptop computer ….. their car is nothing but a worthless hunk of junk.




humfrz

Man get over it, they're still young padawans swinging junior light sabres. They will be old to like us and they will say damn kids won't listen and think they know everything. Like our parents did lol

Calm down about low octane gas on this cheap sports car, you need to have some faith with modern technology. You lose some horsepower that's about it. Ecoboost mustang with 10:1 compression runs perfectly fine on regular, it is 306hp on 93 but goes down to 260hp on 87.

Yes, we all need to calm down about low octane gas on this cheap sports car.

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/05/2...-on-87-octane/

Ecoboost mustang with 10:1 compression runs perfectly fine on regular, it is 310hp on 93 but goes down to 275hp on 87.

GUESS WHAT mustang says Requires 93-octane premium fuel... have faith in anti-knock technology

The ecoboost is no N/A FR-S it's a turbo motor, in the ecoboost people have already noticing issues with LSPI. That's reason enough to not use 87, especially with ford rushing out tsbs with different tunes to fix it.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=afY...octane&f=false

https://www.google.ca/search?q=inter...+%2B+standards

There are internal combustion engine design standards which must takes into account of fuel octane volatility and knock management. I've only read it briefly, but I assume 87 octane satisfies internal combustion engine design standards. because sometimes the 91 octane you buy will be like ~88 octane anyways

LOL The very first complete sentence of the material you provided debunks you theory completely!

Because lawyers build and design engines. Trust me, if anything, the Lawyers try to relax safety margins instead of reinforce them. An educated, intelligent engineer gets very nervous when you start approaching safety tolerances...because they know what can happen.

smh @ this thread.

This shit again?

:popcorn:

Still.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QWPIcGjjZo"]Duralube Losers - YouTube[/ame]

Basically people who use additives.....