Hey guys,

I have made a prototype GM to BRZ/86 CAN translator and have done some initial testing. So far I have the full dash working with the GM motor, so Tacho, Temperature Gauge, Oil and Check Engine lights. I have also got the electric power steering motor to work. Once it is fed the right data, the steering warning lamp goes out, the motor starts humming and it is easier to turn the wheel.
I have also done some work on the traction control side of things, and have figured out the torque reduction from both the GM and 86/BRZ. There is also a variable resistor on the circuit board which allows this torque reduction value (gain) to be altered to account for the big differences in engine power. (a V8 at 50% torque is going to about about the same as the FA20 at 50% torque, put the reduction to 50% and it will equate to a 25% signal to the GM). The ABS is not yet tested so there is still some testing and further development needed here.

It has been tested live on a couple of late model V8 Commodores (Australian), as well as a US LS3 Ecu using simulated engine data for crank signal and coolant temp, oil pressure etc.

Is this a private enterprise for you or are you doing it as an employee of a shop?

This is all very exciting!

I run my own business, with one arm being wiring conversions (specialising in subaru). Very close to you by the sound of it (Thornton).


Also I have some good news, the prototype Canbus Translator is working in an LS powered 86. The Tacho, Temp Gauge, oil pressure light and Check Engine light are all working on the OEM 86 dash as they should. Also the electric power steering is reported to be working.

The only error lights on the dash that remain on after engine start are the ABS and Traction Control lights. Not sure if this is because of the engine and something is not translated that the ABS wants to see, or if it is something totally unrelated. Waiting to get the ABS unit scanned to see what errors it has. As far as I can tell with the ABS I have translated the engine torque allowed signals from 86 tom GM and GM engine torque data from GM to 86. Thinking it may want engine vacuum? I cannot really do much more until I can test this in a working car, to test the traction control functions. However if traction control is not wanted, the unit should work as is. The box is software up-gradable so can be tweaked at a later stage if need be.

Regards, Andrew.

Awesome news, I'm in Lake Macquarie so knowing there's someone this far along only half an hour up the road is great news.

@toddy101....Need it.....want it .......ASAP !!!!!!!!¡!!!!..........do you have more than just this prototype. I can also give you feedback and work with you.

So I take it vorshlag still hasn't figured this all out?

Loosing faith in the vorshlag swap.

I've heard of a few separate people getting the CAN functions to work properly using a micro controller.

I could do the same thing through a hydraulic system controller from my work but with the cost you could just use an aftermarket ecm.

Looking forward to seeing some of these solutions come to light. I plan on doing all my own wiring so having a simple controller like mentioned would be perfect.

@toddy101. I'm also depending on you. The only thing stopping me from collecting parts is electronics. I need all the OE shit to work.

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CAN MBx table in ROM
 

Have been digging around the CAN routine in the ROM.
Found this area which is the same in A01G, A01C, B01C.
Looks like descriptors for CAN Mailboxes 0-31;

struct{
CAN ID data.l
memory location data.l
data.b
number of bytes accepted data.b
data.b
data.b
}

Has anyone built out this to work yet? I haven't had time to dig though all the developments.

I have been working with a software/hardware manufacturing company that has developed some programmable canbus modules for Lsx swaps with full canbus capabilities. And even some additional programmable features.
They have their modules working on other platforms , but they want to get a Ft86 car soon to do some testing and development on. We don't have anyone local that is ready to swap so we haven't been able to proceed on the development. A few of our local customers are holding back until this is developed and a plug and play device.

SO anyone out there that has a swap that would be interested in possibly helping test/develop the module let me know. The company I have been working with is a tier 1 oem supplier for automotive controllers and modules. The have access to software and tools that a smaller firm may not. I can get you all the details on time frame and requirements. I know the car would be needed for a few weeks 2-4 I believe. That is why we would love to have someone local to us, there is going to be a ton of logging and data crunching done to get it all working correctly.

If anyone is interested shoot me an email at Sales@forcedfabllc.com put ATT Jon BRZ LSX swap.

It's irritating that all of a sudden people are stepping up to develop CANbus solutions when that has been the main hurdle for people wanting to swap it.

I reckon I'd be quite a bit more irritated if people didn't step up to develop CANbus solutions.

If you've had everything but CANbus sorted for any reasonable length of time the option was there for you to work it out yourself or pay someone to work it out. If you've been hanging back waiting for someone to do the hard yards for you I guess it's a case of put up or shut up.

You can build a simple CanBus Arduino microcontroller for less than $100.
May not have all the features of these 'professional' ones but having a few things like functioning tachometer and power steering should be good enough while you wait for something better.
There have been solutions for a while now, they just get overlooked.

I'm having a particularly rough morning so I'm taking this as an attack on my credentials. I'm confident in staying that I was the first to privately attempt a 2JZ swap in the nation. In addition, I have yet to see any swap with fully functioning OEM functions (A/C, EPAS, T/C, dash). I have seen people with bits of each but nothing fully functioning.

I originally tried running with ProEFI because it was cost effective and it was advertised to support CANbus communication. The issue (which wasn't found out until Dec/Jan) was I would need to have a master tuner of theirs pull the code from a functioning OEM car ($750) plus the coding ($2500) in order to implement the CANbus capability. So, I had to spend more money to get it to work - which I decided to sell and swap to a known EMS (was MoTeC, ended up going with Emtron which i'll explain that). It made no sense to pour more money into something which already let me down.

On top of that, the wiring harness was fucked. That was at least $2k down the toilet because of modification costs to the original custom harness. Without going into too much detail, I've put in about $3-4k (EDIT: actually more like $8k) worth of... lets call it tuition, on this build. I'm funding this entire build with no sponsors. Besides one other build, I've spent a lot more money than 99% of the community just to get the swap done and working 100%.

I ended up going with Emtron because it looks like a cost effective solution that the entire community can learn and profit from. You guys (all non-Australians) will benefit from a very new company with emerging capabilities. If I were more of an asshole, there'd be no responding to the hundreds of emails, PMs, DMs, messages (whatever you want to call them from the various websites I'm on). There would be no sharing of information. I talk to people daily on options. Everyone I know spends at least the same amount of time and probably more than I do helping as much as we can. We get to say whatever the fuck we want to because we've put in so much work into our cars with nothing expected in return. We've put up.