That's in Egypt right?

Most of it.

I choose to take the positive from your message. OTOH, if we ever have the chance to "race", realize my goal is to die.

I think this is the fifth young man that I have heard of that has managed to kill himself driving a twin. With some of the stupid things I have seen done with them it is obvious that it is a well made and very safe vehicle or there would be many more.

Sadly, this one will never learn from his mistake. The other driver is likely to have his life changed forever by the stupid decision to race and then run.

It only takes a second and one bad decision to change your life and the lives of everyone who cares about you forever.

This means the debate about the FRS being too slow is over right? I mean slow things don't end up looking like that.














Or maybe it's just a pos tin can.... ;)

The only people who think the FR-S is too slow are retards. Or miss the Gary reference.


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There is a bit of press sensationalism going on there as well.
If that had been a 75 year old man in a Cadillac that was speeding and unsafely passed a truck and wrapped around a pole would it have got the same coverage?
I highly doubt it as it would have probably been 3 lines in the paper, if reported at all.


As soon as the words "street racing" come into play and the style of car is seen it becomes big news.


How do they even know they were racing?
Although I don't think for one second they weren't the simple fact that they were speeding does not necessarily mean "racing". A BMW and I both passed a truck today and we were both over the speed limit but that does not, for one second, mean either of us were racing the other. The news report says they were "racing" before any type of investigation could possibly been completed so I presume the report was based solely upon the fact they were fast and sporty cars that were going too fast.

Deader was most likely a Tea Party dude or a French right-winger.

"By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest."
~ Confucius

Article says believed to have been racing, likely based on the testimony of the truck driver that they both veered around who had a front row seat to the collision when they merged back in and hit each other.


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Like I said though I have no doubt they were but just because the driver thought they were is not real evidence. Not all cars that are speeding or poorly driven are automatically racing.

Around here that could have just been two d!ckheads that just wanted to get in the lane ahead of the other. I can't believe how many times I'll come up behind someone going 5mph under the speed limit, and when I go around to pass, sometimes (somehow) we both end up going like 30 over by the time I finally get past! And then once I get past the other guy usually drops back to his 5 under pace. I am definitely not racing, but I have no idea what goes on in these other people's heads. AND, 9x out of 10, if I slow down and slot back in behind they will go back to the 5mph under anyway, just making the situation that much better.

Not saying that's what happened, but I see it and experience it all the time.

I have to add also: if one of these idiots happen to lose control when they are 'racing' me or whatever the hell it is they think they are doing, I most definitely would not stop to see if they were ok. Is that ok?

Exactly, on a related note I engage in some legal but elevated risk activities such as flying, aerobatics, etc.


I have left specific instructions with my family that should I die by auguring a plane into the ground they are at no time to say "Well, at least he died doing something he loved" because I can guarantee them with an level of certainty that there was absolutely nothing I was enjoying about that last act!

Well you certainly get the point I was trying to make!


If somebody crashed during one of the events you described and there was any way that it could have been perceived that I was involved in racing I would stop for sure. Not so much out of concern for the other driver but to be able to present my version of what happened right up front. In this case the statement they were "believed" (thanks @Foobar I missed that one word before) was already made and since the other dude ran he could not repute it and it implies guilt (which there probably is but where is the evidence).


I know I seem to always dispute such things on here but that is just because I have spent almost 3 decades investigating incidents and learned a long time ago that first appearances, assumptions, perceptions and the whole "well the result was this so that had to be the cause" mentality is very rarely correct. Show me some evidence beyond one guy that would have seen then for 5 or 10 seconds saying "well yep sure done did look like racen' to me".
Again (for the guys that are going to say "they were racing" I suspect they were racing but with the info availableI don't know it!