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s0sl0w 07-03-2013 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FRS_Sovereign (Post 1043795)
Yea but to give your opinion and tell everyone else that they ruined the car. Make you sound like you need to put down others to get your point heard which is textbook narcissism, Most of us here are technical otherwise we wouldn't have looked up and join this forum. Just saying. ALL LOVE :happy0180:

How's this for an opinion then. The convertible GT86 that Toyota will almost certainly release is a truly terrible iteration of the car that only exist because it'll rack up sales among non enthusiast types because a convertible GT86 is pretty much full retard.

If you like it, and it doesn't make your car unsafe then by all means go for it. In the same right that you have to do things to your car I have the same right to laugh at you for it. Every morning I wake and pour myself a tall glass of Haterade, plenty to go around.

Dadhawk 07-03-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by supragoods (Post 1043216)
srry bro i been wait in that line before they released car
if /when the release the convertibe dont be surprised if you see one


Oh I fully expect they'll sell every convertible they build, in fact MomHawk might even buy one to replace her convertible Mustang. And to me it's all good if it helps keep the product line viable and the aftermarket parts flowing.

s0sl0w 07-03-2013 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 1043824)
Normally, I would agree with you, except that it has been stated before, including by the designers that this car was intended and designed from day one to have a convertible version of it.

That means there is already some rigidity and strength (and extra unneeded stuff you say you don't want) built into the frame.

I'm no automotive engineer but I'm interpolating from that you could add roof panels (Targa, t-tops, but not a sunroof) that would have minimal impact to the car, and could potentially even lower the CG.

Let me let you in a on a secret.

Designing a car from the get go as a convertible then adding a hardtop is one of the most awesome ways to produce an amazingly stiff/rigid body shell.

See also: Chrysler Crossfire (terrible car but very stiff chassis)
Porsche Cayman

Dadhawk 07-03-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by s0sl0w (Post 1043837)
Let me let you in a on a secret.

Designing a car from the get go as a convertible then adding a hardtop is one of the most awesome ways to produce an amazingly stiff/rigid body shell.

See also: Chrysler Crossfire (terrible car but very stiff chassis)
Porsche Cayman

No secret there, just saying the parts are already there, might as well use them.

I've owned a car that wasn't designed that way ('83 Z-28 with an aftermarket Targa) so I know what it's like to drive one that wasn't designed for it. It's a trade-off I'm willing to make.

FRS_Sovereign 07-04-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by s0sl0w (Post 1043831)
How's this for an opinion then. The convertible GT86 that Toyota will almost certainly release is a truly terrible iteration of the car that only exist because it'll rack up sales among non enthusiast types because a convertible GT86 is pretty much full retard.

If you like it, and it doesn't make your car unsafe then by all means go for it. In the same right that you have to do things to your car I have the same right to laugh at you for it. Every morning I wake and pour myself a tall glass of Haterade, plenty to go around.

I was just simply trying to explain why you were getting flac for your comment. If you notice in this thread a number a people didn't like the t-tops but they didn't cut down the ones who did but if you enjoy playing an a**hole behind a keyboard go right ahead this is a free country and I'm proud to have such a medium to express one's feeling. Hope i didn't make you angry or anything and I apologize if you took my comment the wrong way. :w00t:

regal 07-04-2013 10:26 AM

No T-tops for me, I like the aluminum roof. I even hope they don't release the convertible, the twins are already becoming a bit of a chic car in my area. The girls are buying up the auto's in droves.

lionbacker54 07-04-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by m.wood0213 (Post 1042039)
sunroof or if the convertible version was just a targa version but no T top

What he said

TylerLieberman 07-04-2013 12:11 PM

T-top: Ehh
Targa: Hell yeah

Brzetto 07-12-2013 07:36 PM

Does a mullet instantly appear after the t-top installation?

sevi21 07-13-2013 10:40 AM

How about a full targa top, that would be sweet

jybrd 07-13-2013 01:11 PM

I vote yes, but I also wouldnt mind seeing the top that the Supra had. Wish I could remember what it was called.

mike_ekim1024 09-03-2013 06:18 PM

Just toying with the idea just like the OP - what about two small sunroofs?

http://www.tgautomotive.com/product_p/vt1717b5h.htm

Or go fully polycarbonate roof :)
http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/for...681/#post36545

Some day I'd like to have a few mods that are not off-the-shelf and unique.

Mikem53 09-03-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slowbrz (Post 1041867)
Exactly. I'm not going to cut my car up but I would love to have one that has it. It's so rare to find a car that has a removable top anymore. Basically your only option is a Corvette

And the corvettes have their issues with the T tops.. I had noise issues to a point where they had a recall on them.. New hinges for the locks and the noise came back after 10k miles.. It also adds weight to the car for the extra structural support required..
They actually started a flying roof club on the forum as some would forget to lock them.. And they had separation issues due to the laminate used in the roof..
I like the fixed roof now...


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