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tranzformer 03-06-2012 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Exage (Post 149643)
rwhp=road feel?

I've yet to find a naturally aspirated V6 that I can enjoy listening to, If your going to perform any modifications to the exhaust then please twin [turbocharge] it so that it's muffled. kthxbye

For a NA V6 take a listen to a GC 3.8 with a ARK exhaust.

Also the NA Lotus Evora sounds decent.

Capt Canuck 03-06-2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cassidy0998 (Post 149678)
You should listen to the 2011+ V6 Mustang, no joke, it actually does sound good, both in the cabin and out.

I agree :w00t:
Maybe it was low expectations on its sound, but I thought it was just as good as a stock 6th gen Si (MY06-11)

Guff 03-06-2012 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chulooz (Post 149825)
Motherfucker just called his corolla unique. Mind blown.

Now now, let's stay civilized.

OrbitalEllipses 03-06-2012 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Guff (Post 149850)
Now now, let's stay civilized.

But that was HILARIOUS.

cassidy0998 03-06-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Exage (Post 149818)
I don't really have anything against the Mustang and I agree with you and it's a great value. Yes, it is better that the symphony of drone [VQ]. I'm not really a Stang or Ford guy, though... I would take any of them with one of the V8s before the Mustang II, and if I were a budget drag racer I definitely look into a Fox Body.

It's one of those things where bang for buck; I'd race out the door and get one. Unfortunately everyone else does and that causes some sort of moral car code individuality problem with me.

I had this epiphany when I bought the XRS, I was looking through the DD eco compact drones and stumbled across it. I could tell just by looking at it that something was different, "special or unique" in someway. Now I can't settle with a conventional and generic vehicle.

Hence my continued interest in the FR-S and BRZ. I found there were many things that cause this car not to be generic, everything from mechanical to spirt.

I understand where you're coming from, but since you brought up the mentality of a car code in regard to Mustangs, I think it's worth bringing up the fact that for the past couple of years Toyota has sold around 250,000 Corollas every single year over the past few years in the US alone, while Ford has only sold around 60-70,000 Mustangs in the US each year.

Remember, being "different" for no other reason than to just be different is only so cool, and only gets us so far.

There will be fewer FR-S/BRZs on the road, and those of us whom chose to get one we will stand out from the crowd. But that doesn't mean that it was the best bang for the buck, the best deal out there.

There will be the crowd of BRZ owners who may pay close to (or over) $30k for their new ride. They will say it handles amazingly and it has a low CG - and it was made after the AE86 and 2000GT... but by Subaru... or something, but most importantly, they are different from everybody else. While the crowd of V6 Mustang and Genesis Coupe owners say "Hey, I paid $5k-$10k less than you guys did for your BRZ, got 100 more hp, I get better mpg, and my ride actually handles pretty darn good as well." But then the BRZ owner will say, "But everybody has a Mustang or a Genesis Coupe."

I'm not saying that the FR-S/BRZ will be inferior to any car on the road, but I am saying that the hype and speculation of this car is going to cause the price to soar - much more so [to me] than what it's actually worth. The FR-S/BRZ isn't made of any rare exotic materials that you can only get from the moon; it's still just a car. Therefore purchasing either a Mustang or Genesis Coupe is a reasonable alternative route (to me). At least I will be different from the crowd that has to own the FR-S/BRZ regardless of price, just because it's supposedly the new hot car to get.

SVTSHC 03-06-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chulooz (Post 149825)
Motherfucker just called his corolla unique. Mind blown.

:lol:that was funny, but you could have picked a better way to say that lol.

Exage 03-06-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by chulooz (Post 149825)
Motherfucker just called his corolla unique. Mind blown.

It is one of 6619 produced.

Capt Canuck 03-06-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Exage (Post 149818)

It's one of those things where bang for buck; I'd race out the door and get one. Unfortunately everyone else does and that causes some sort of moral car code individuality problem with me.

I had this epiphany when I bought the XRS, I was looking through the DD eco compact drones and stumbled across it. I could tell just by looking at it that something was different, "special or unique" in someway. Now I can't settle with a conventional and generic vehicle.

Sorry but it is a variant of a mass produced car Toyota sells in the hundreds of thousands.
Calling that purchase an epiphany might just be one of the most hyperbolic statements ever uttered on a car forum :rolleyes:
It is conventional and it is generic. Nothing wrong with that though.
Like a Mustang. It is a generic car found at rental car agencies, but that doesn't make any less of a car.

fatoni 03-06-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt Canuck (Post 150031)
Sorry but it is a variant of a mass produced car Toyota sells in the hundreds of thousands.
Calling that purchase an epiphany might just be one of the most hyperbolic statements ever uttered on a car forum :rolleyes:
It is conventional and it is generic. Nothing wrong with that though.
Like a Mustang. It is a generic car found at rental car agencies, but that doesn't make any less of a car.

Maybe a little overstated but let's not forget that this forum and the car we are here for id paying tribute to a corolla. It is conventional just like the itr although not as hardcore

Capt Canuck 03-06-2012 12:15 PM

Certainly. Lineages are a wonderful thing and you can create a compelling story around it. But sometimes these bloodlines skip a generation or two or four ;-)

Much like someone might want to skip over the 2nd gen Mustang to maintain that compelling story, I think Toyota has created a branch in the family tree in the mid-80s to get us from the AE86 to here :-)

Exage 03-06-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 150058)
Maybe a little overstated but let's not forget that this forum and the car we are here for id paying tribute to a corolla. It is conventional just like the itr although not as hardcore

You would understand. Your Mazdaspeed Protege is one of 4500. The USDM sold numbers for a ITR is apparently 3823.

I don't see a GT500 or Boss 302 for every GT and V6 on the road, perhaps everyone else does:iono:.

carbonBLUE 03-06-2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Canuck (Post 150031)
Sorry but it is a variant of a mass produced car Toyota sells in the hundreds of thousands.
Calling that purchase an epiphany might just be one of the most hyperbolic statements ever uttered on a car forum :rolleyes:
It is conventional and it is generic. Nothing wrong with that though.
Like a Mustang. It is a generic car found at rental car agencies, but that doesn't make any less of a car.

thats the thing though, only under 7k of the XRS corolla were produced, thats a very limited run considering the base model has 30 million out there and the xrs is about 0.023% of corollas made, ive seen more supras, rx-7's, and GT-R's than ive seen xrs corollas from that gen of corollas, heck ive seen more model-t's driving in Florida, or AE86's here in texas and cali :/


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Originally Posted by Exage (Post 150077)
You would understand. Your Mazdaspeed Protege is one of 4500. The USDM sold numbers for a ITR is apparently 3823.

I don't see a GT500 or Boss 302 for every GT and V6 on the road, perhaps everyone else does:iono:.

ive seen 2 boss 302's and about 5 GT500's and maybe 8 5.0's in Dallas in the last 3 months, they aren't that rare... especially the v6's i see a LOT of those here...
ive seen 2 corolla xrs' one on the high way and one infront of a target, some family man with 2 kids and his wife left black marks through 1st and 2nd getting on the freeway, damn them turbo xrs' :D

chulooz 03-06-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Exage (Post 150019)
It is one of 6619 produced.

Its one of over 40,000,000 produced, cool variant none the less.

Exage 03-06-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chulooz (Post 150106)
Its one of over 40,000,000 produced, cool variant none the less.

Fair enough, we've both had our say.

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Originally Posted by cassidy0998 (Post 149983)
Remember, being "different" for no other reason than to just be different is only so cool, and only gets us so far.

There will be fewer FR-S/BRZs on the road, and those of us whom chose to get one we will stand out from the crowd. But that doesn't mean that it was the best bang for the buck, the best deal out there.

There will be the crowd of BRZ owners who may pay close to (or over) $30k for their new ride. They will say it handles amazingly and it has a low CG - and it was made after the AE86 and 2000GT... but by Subaru... or something, but most importantly, they are different from everybody else. While the crowd of V6 Mustang and Genesis Coupe owners say "Hey, I paid $5k-$10k less than you guys did for your BRZ, got 100 more hp, I get better mpg, and my ride actually handles pretty darn good as well." But then the BRZ owner will say, "But everybody has a Mustang or a Genesis Coupe."

I'm not saying that the FR-S/BRZ will be inferior to any car on the road, but I am saying that the hype and speculation of this car is going to cause the price to soar - much more so [to me] than what it's actually worth. The FR-S/BRZ isn't made of any rare exotic materials that you can only get from the moon; it's still just a car. Therefore purchasing either a Mustang or Genesis Coupe is a reasonable alternative route (to me). At least I will be different from the crowd that has to own the FR-S/BRZ regardless of price, just because it's supposedly the new hot car to get.

Nothing to argue against. It's really up to the individual to chose as they please because both cars will provide ample driving entertainment, fuel economy etc... when asked to.


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