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Originally Posted by poormans_LFA
(Post 128303)
Wings,
It appears to be the difference of offering a "performance package" vs. a fully modified car that has actually been "breathed on" (a la BMW 3er w/ M sport pack vs. M3). However, the engines you speak of offered in STI products are performance tuned by Subaru and not STI, correct??
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Exactly!
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Originally Posted by lfawishes
(Post 128283)
You're posting is confusing. The North American STi's are great cars, I do understand the special models you are referring too (not north american models) tend to have actually custom parts e.g. cosworth etc.. for the car and be more on the liens of a race car and are better than just a regular north american sti, unless we start getting some like s206 etc
But you also need to remember the US STi uses different differentials,axles, turbo, block, heads, intake manifold, injectors, wheels, brakes, transmission THAN THE WRX!!!!!! they are all special to the sti model.
IF you are trying to say the new impreza will get a Sti non turbo model under the wrx you are totally 100% wrong.
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I did not say the North American STI isn't great. However what im talking about is this..STi did not lead the manufacturing process the specific parts used in the WRX STI (Brakes, transmission, manifold). Subaru built it, manufactured by FHI and branded it STi. STi's actual involvement should have been very small in the development of the North American models.
STi, Nismo, Mugen, RallyArt, are all Motorsports Divisions. There are boundaries and limitations these closely nit tuning shops actually do for the parent companies as a whole.
(Example;
1. If Nissan develops a high performance trim 370z, it will make more power, and likely sport different parts under the premis of Nismo 370z regardless of Nismo's actual involvement.
2. If Nissan asks Nismo to offer a performance trim 370z, it will be stock with accessories.
3. If Nismo leads the development of a Nismo 370z limited run production car, you bet your ass its going to be turbo with gobs of power and new bits.
So when you give a WRX STi.....TO STi ...they make spectacular things. Of course when STi is leading a project, it works in-conjunction with Prodrive & cosworth. Just as TRD Japan works in conjunction with Yamaha.
The current impreza is split from WRX and WRX STI.....making Impreza and WRX two completely separate models.. and if Subaru asks STi to offer a trim for the current impreza..it will not be under the premius of Impreza WRX because it being a different car. This is why if Subaru asks STi for a trim, non-turbo Impreza tS is likely, the use of the FA16DIT is not likely.
The new WRX will obviously be using a 2.0L turbo, and any STI variant will not deviate from that unless.
Again, your thoughts of the STI image is very american, or so im told.
