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Nambo 01-05-2012 04:21 PM

Thanks davey90 for the heads up and Infernal for the scans, a really good read!

Mr.Jay 01-05-2012 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinDuMa (Post 108032)
Whoever wrote the Toyota article was obviously very unbiased lol


I think it was more along the lines that he was at a gaint track and only got to drive the car on a small go kart track with lot of restrictions which is weird cause I remember the other reviews saying that Toyota let them have free reign and Subaru had lots of restrictions

JabTomcat 01-05-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 00NissanNinja (Post 107970)
Sweet article, thanks for the scans infernal. Makes me even more excited to get a BRZ. I wonder if there is going to be a future Top Gear ep when cars are released. Take both the GT86 and BRZ out for a drive; probably would be a very entertaining episode.

When I first got interested in these cars, that is what I wanted to see the most! I do really hope they do an episode with the both of them.

slizoth 01-05-2012 05:23 PM

There is no way the FR-S will be priced at 25k. The BRZ was annouced at 24k and Scion said it will be the cheaper of the two, nice try Top Gear.

KevinDuMa 01-05-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by slizoth (Post 108062)
There is no way the FR-S will be priced at 25k. The BRZ was annouced at 24k and Scion said it will be the cheaper of the two, nice try Top Gear.

They're pricing the Gt-86 not the Fr-S. The Gt-86 is about an equivalent to the BRZ we are getting.

Stigmaru 01-05-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DanPO (Post 108017)
So I just went to Barnes and Noble. They didn't have it in yet. Darn.

I went to Barnes and Nobles and Walmart and none of them have this issue.

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Originally Posted by KevinDuMa (Post 108067)
They're pricing the Gt-86 not the Fr-S. The Gt-86 is about an equivalent to the BRZ we are getting.

GT86 is still restricted to 197HP in Japan... BRZ is at least 200 HP like the FRS. Are you guys quoting prices in European currency??

coyote 01-05-2012 05:53 PM

I expect this thread will get locked. Anything with facts about the origins of this car tends to go that way.

Slide 01-05-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bambbrose (Post 107848)
Best article yet!

Some key points:
-Confirmed WRB is subaru only
-Confirmed, yet again, that there will NEVER be a turbo model
-Confirmed, from engineers, that with proper valvetrain a high RPM NA monster is possible.

BRZ STI with 240 HP and weight reduction? Sounds like a RWD ITR to me :D

-Confirmed needs a turbo!!!!

Levi 01-05-2012 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Slide (Post 108077)
-Confirmed needs a turbo!!!!

-Confirmed: it's called WRX!!!

Dragonitti 01-05-2012 06:20 PM

"I only did one mile in the GT86, while Ollie spent a whole day with Scoob."

How do you do a review with only one mile of driving? Sounded positive about the BRZ and the article turns negative with the GT86, yet they are the same car.....sounded more like politics being talked about than the actual car.

KevinDuMa 01-05-2012 06:55 PM

@Mr.Jay I know what you mean, but it seemed like he really wanted people to know this was mostly builty by Subaru which is really insignificant to the test drive. Quotes like "Engine is a Subaru boxer four with Toyota direct injection. Or that's what we've been led to believe..." like hes on a mission to discredit Toyota on everything with this car.

@AeroWRX I understand the restrictions, he said there was no way a Fr-S would be priced at $25grand but the review was for a Gt-86 which comes almost loaded with nav, alcantara seats, warmers, hid/leds etc. which the scion does not have but can be compared to the BRZ we will be getting here in the states which will be around $25 from what we know at the moment.

Cessblood 01-05-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 108085)
"I only did one mile in the GT86, while Ollie spent a whole day with Scoob."

How do you do a review with only one mile of driving? Sounded positive about the BRZ and the article turns negative with the GT86, yet they are the same car.....sounded more like politics being talked about than the actual car.

I agree.

tranzformer 01-05-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bambbrose (Post 107848)

BRZ STI with 240 HP and weight reduction? Sounds like a RWD ITR to me :D

That is what I have been asking for along with others on here. No turbo Subaru. Give us a high revving NA. :happyanim:

tranzformer 01-05-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ajc209 (Post 107903)
I heard that they want to bring out a new model every year, so you might be waiting for next years model a very long time....... I am hoping a supercharge kit will be avaliable by the time mine reaches the end of the toyota 5 year warrenty.... :)

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Originally Posted by slizoth (Post 108062)
There is no way the FR-S will be priced at 25k. The BRZ was annouced at 24k and Scion said it will be the cheaper of the two, nice try Top Gear.


Btw no FRS or BRZ pricing has been confirmed yet so unsure what you are alluding to.


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