Seems like the agreement is for no mid-grade WRX like model for BRZ, only a STI variant as to not take sales from FRS and "BRZ" well optioned models.

There was talk about a stroked mill with slightly different pistons, airbox, cam profiles, exhaust system and ecu tuning on the existing mill(think about the recent review saying 240hp/200tq@7k, that would be it, they were told vaguely but they confused it in the article saying #s were for normal BRZ when it wasn't).

Q1 2013 is the target. This date is too far away for STI variant it could only mean they are waiting for new gen mill to pass tests(which should of been done 2 months ago) and scrap the bigger tuned N/A idea, but being very tight lipped. They also are faced with knowing 31+k is turbo 4 or 6cyl territory for Japanese sports cars and anything less would be a tough sell in their upcoming line up.

Exactly...the only point I'm making is that $31k is just way too much to be asking unless its what everyone expects from an STi version, that includes Force Induction.

Hell, that car and driver article quotes that executive as saying $28k for the base BRZ. Thats a huge eyebrow raiser. Why so high?

This as been mentioned in other places about rumors that dealers will get 1-2 cars per month. No haggling with that.

Whether it's released 12 or 16months from now doesn't matter, what matters it's coming so save your money for the bigger better picture. Don't be penny smart dollar foolish.

$31k will not be a dealer optioned car it will be a race bred vehicle, optioned would be $34k for premium audio/nav and leather just like an optioned WRXSTI hits 40k with those things.

Say what you want I've came back to point out the things that I've already shared with people on here. Also I will bet you that you cannot make your FRS/"BRZ" faster and lighter than the "BRZ" STI using quality parts for under 31k including the cost of little to no optioned car which will be in the 25k region. Not going to happen, you'll have no interior inducing extra road noise, sacrifice comfort and reliabilty throwing away your powertrain warranty trying to do so.

To put in perspective here's a scenario. A quality intake system, header, cat, and catback that actually gives you gains will run you 2.2k, RPF1 or like new forged lw wheels another 2k with 180utg rated tires, seat pair 1k, aluminum links, brakes, suspension arms add another 3k(not including struts and springs), ecu flash 500. That's 8.7k, your leaving out STI exterior/interior styling, struts/springs/sways, turbo, model value, possible emission issues with header/cat. In the end you are still down on power/tq and not handling as well, the STI will be factory engineered and backed not a modded bolt-on hot mess.

Is that 3,000 Scion and Subaru models together, or just applies to the Subaru BRZ?

Why so few anyway?

I wonder why the Subaru allocation is so low. Toyota has priority? Subaru is planning on stretching the platform for the WRX and AWD, and doesn't want to dilute their AWD brand? They want to differentiate themselves with a higher output model in a year?

I'd expect that's the Subaru allocation for the US. They built a new plant for this and they're not making money on a production run of 3,000 per year. It sounds like Toyota is getting almost all the production for the first year.

Its not its the same as other sport models in the line up.

No

Yes stretch, No could care less

Yes

3000 units a year?!?!?! Dammit!

Ah, so we'll see much more than 3,000 units of the Scion FR-S per year?

If so, whew....

Interesting article. Just wondering how accurate the estimated price is.

Almost dead on.

Oh Rly?

Source?