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-   -   TOYOTA GAZOO Racing Presents World Debut of the New JDM GR 86 (Second Gen 86)! (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144807)

gymratter 04-05-2021 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Thefalls (Post 3419779)
We are being treated with red carpet.

:)
that could just be a JDM only option.

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Originally Posted by beltax90 (Post 3419780)
。hachiroku drls dont wrap around at the top!

also gotta say best car has been pretty good lately on getting their renders to look really close to the final design
i was hoping for that there would be more changes than that. like what we had on the 1st gen.

Thefalls 04-05-2021 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 3419781)
A translation would have been so much better for us non jap speaking crowd.

This video seems to be rather descriptive when comparing the two.

BFIFE22 04-05-2021 04:45 AM
I bet in the US we’ll only get the bland all black interior unfortunately. I like the look of this better than the BRZ, might have to switch sides next gen!

Ash_89 04-05-2021 05:25 AM
I'm not sure if I can convey this properly but, the front end of the GR86 has a certain balance that makes the car look right to me. It might be that it looks more substantial and is cleaner, also it appears a bit rounder from certain angles compared to the BRZ.

Not sure if any media have driven it but I'm excited and looking forward to owning one when I can.

Deslock 04-05-2021 05:45 AM
Front looks cleaner than BRZ's.

Happy with my MX-5, but if I needed more than two seats again, I'd get an 86.

RToyo86 04-05-2021 05:47 AM
The article says it has 235hp and weighs 2799 curb.

Compared to 228hp on the BRZ.

Yoshoobaroo 04-05-2021 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ash_89 (Post 3419791)
I'm not sure if I can convey this properly but, the front end of the GR86 has a certain balance that makes the car look right to me.
Agreed. I suspect that, like the 1st gen, Toyota decided what it would look like and then Subaru designed their bumper/headlights/fendervents after the fact.

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Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3419793)
The article says it has 235hp and weighs 2799 curb.

Compared to 228hp on the BRZ.
235 PS, not HP. It's 173kW/235PS/232HP

Maybe Subaru didn't have final numbers, maybe it was rounded differently, who knows.
Numbers are the same for both, 173kW:

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/atta...1&d=1617599600

WC-BRZ 04-05-2021 07:14 AM
I thought the cr for the new 2.4 was 13.5:1...however, the GR86 spec sheet says 12.5:1

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/04/al...olheads-needs/

Summerwolf 04-05-2021 07:42 AM
Mehhhhh. That really wasn't worth the delayed announcement IMO.

Tcoat 04-05-2021 07:57 AM
Well that is a lot of hype for an announcement that is about as anticlimactic as you can get.
Slightly different lights and interior trim and a different bumper. So pretty much the differences between the 86 and the BRZ that have always existed.

I still strongly dislike the side vents and running boards. There is no way the whole model line should be branded as GR since that is pure marketing bullshit.

Tcoat 04-05-2021 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by RetroRacer (Post 3419759)
So glad i didn’t buy the local Hakone edition 86 manual with 950 miles for sale for $31k locally. Color is nice, but even the Performance pack BRZ was a better buy for the same $. Again I’m amazed how many people pay more for a “color” over a better driving car. Most people who own a Hakone don’t “track” their car, that’s the difference, they just want a car that looks good, but don’t use the drivers car for what it’s intended for.
The new car will outperform the old one on every front.
Definitely prefer the Toyota styling to the BRZ. But will change mine immensely for an upcoming sema show. A bigger 2.4 motor with improved power band and better chassis that’s 50% more rigid to build upon, Well done Toyota/Subaru!
Will sit nicely in my garage next to my 2007 STI Crawford built, and 91 NSX. Sold my 2012 SS/RS sema Camaro recently but I prefer lightweight over HP. Look forward to building a phenomenal new GR86.
What exactly was it "intended for"?
As many Hakone's will get tracked as any other version.
The majority of the PP cars will never ever see a track.

Pretentious "enthusiast" is pretentious.

JusTheG 04-05-2021 08:09 AM
Good Morning/Evening to wherever y'all are. WHEW, I'm glad to see the GR86 in full form. Product delays, especially in the Automotive market, are nothing to scoff at now so I'm glad Toyota made sure to plan a good release despite the rumors.

There's still the Pre-Production builds that are probably in the final series of Extensive Testing but there's reassurance with the Press Release that Production will start "soon" with Toyota's approval.

On a lighter side, maybe Toyota and Subaru are trying show that Red and Blue cars can coexist in a world full of Pearl White and Metallic Gray. I'll need some time to process the differences between each car but I do believe the GR86 has a better looking front bumper. But my desire for World Rally Blue is possibly stronger.

Transport3r 04-05-2021 08:11 AM
Curious to see what the actual changes are that Toyota made to make it ‘sharper’ and ‘more engaging’.

Bet you a dollar it’s harder rear springs. Again.

Transport3r 04-05-2021 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3419808)
What exactly was it "intended for"?
As many Hakone's will get tracked as any other version.
The majority of the PP cars will never ever see a track.

Pretentious "enthusiast" is pretentious.

Yea this comes off as undeserved self-aggrandizement rooted in insecurity. Nobody likes this guy.


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