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Never, I absolutely love this car. eventually it'll be a dedicated track car.

Buying cars are too much hassle. So I will mine forever.

PS. Another reason is I have a Monogram Hot Lava.

Well, you did the correct choices. Not many people understand that STI is focusing the last 10 years mainly on handling and not much on power. Check the videos below where they explain in all details the idea behind of these STI modifications:

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Short answer: Forever, with one caveat (see bottom of post).
I tend to get attached to my cars so I never sell them when they get old and unreliable. At that point, they become project cars. I still have my first car, a 1979 Celica. Its sitting in a garage waiting for me to make time for a restomod.
All of my cars (5 total) are small, RWD, and M/T, a combination getting harder to find.
The caveat mentioned above: There is one situation in which I MIGHT consider trading in my FRS which is if Toyota/Subaru were to make the 86 with a proper Toyota DOHC I4 engine. I STILL wish Toyota had equipped their version of the Twins with the JDM Altezza-spec 3SGE instead of the Subaru motor.
But, NAH. I'd probably just keep the FRS and add another car to my collection...

Bought it for learning manual. Whenever I mastered MT with it, will switch to a MT lambo then.

I plan to keep mine until 200k miles, then evaluate if it makes sense to shoehorn another engine in it. I hydrolocked the first engine and I'm getting a crate engine to replace it, so I get a reset on engine miles. The first 42k miles are wiped clean so the engine only really needs to go 158k for my plan to work. Let's hope the rest of the car keeps together, because I love driving this car and I'd love to keep it long term beyond 200k

The one in my avatar.

I plan (hope) to keep mine another 6 months - until the 2019s come out. I want the same car with MT and ApplePlay. My only two reservations (I also might jump up into a PP or some package with Brembos and stiffer springs). After that I plan to keep it until I can afford a Cayman. So, forever.

I'll put a condition on my earlier estimate of 18 years. Subaru hasn't done a Series.Red yet. If they do a Series.Red that includes or exceeds all of the upgrades of all the prior special editions, I might be tempted to upgrade. I was sorely tempted by the yellow one, but I may not be able to resist the red.

Maybe you should wait longer than 2019? Until they give some announcement of either another slight refresh or the death of the platform?

I thought the port injection on these cars would avoid the carbon build up caused by Direct injection and assumed the engine will last a good while. I was planning on keeping it forever, until the spun bearing issues started to pop up. I also see posts with cars over 100K miles. Even with that I feel the car is on borrowed time (knock on wood). I'm tentatively planning on switching around 50K miles before the warranty is up and see what's available then.

Really conflicted with this as I know I'm going to end up in a car with the DI issues I thought I avoided.

I've thought of that. I'm really sick of the head unit situation and I very much want a third pedal. One thing is I'm worried if the platform DOES die, I might not be able to get the car I want. And the dreamed-of 240hp doesn't really interest me if it comes with a price increase. I'm happy to header and flash the thing, but I don't want to do it to a vehicle I'm going to trade in.

Mostly though, I just want to find the right spot where my trade-in value is at its peak. I assume that's around 2 years, but... IDK.

Oh for fuck sake somebody show me all these failures that everybody is so worked up about lately. Put some hard numbers in front of me not just "there are too many"

This forum has had about 40 reported bearing failures in stock engines. TOTAL. Out of the 128,000 members that are, or have been, on this forum. At least 95% of those failures are early 13s. Some of those are no doubt caused by the owner themselves no matter how much they say they did everything perfect. There are tens of thousands of them driving around with over 100,000 miles that have never had an issue. Check any reliability list you wish and see what the big issues have been. Ya, they were squeaks, leaky taillights and a noisy (but working fine) fuel pump. Disaster, we should start class action suits right away.
A forum is the very fucking WORST place to determine if there are issues with a car since that is where every person that does have a problem heads. The 99% that don't have a problem just don't say anything so the whole perception of things is badly skewed.


Are there problems with some? Certainly, but there are problems with some of any car made and this whole "the sky is falling" mentality being lead by a couple of people that can't be bothered to check the real numbers is just stupidity.


If people are so convinced their car is doomed they should just sell it and move on. Oh but wait... Then they will just whine about how little value it has since they managed to perpetuate the myth that it they are all crap and not worth owning.