The 05-06 tC didn't, the 07+ tC did. The 2011 tC does not because of the new 6spd trans hasn't had one developed....Yet





I want that shirt minus the face

So are you saying that Lexus is not Toyota Brand any more? and still does not share parts with other Toyota cars ? or even Scion ? ..

i seem to have forgoten... what company made the concept again?

Now you're lost. Baybach and Roller share technologies, probably parts with MB and BMW, respectively. Does that matter make Maybach MB, and Roller BMW? No. What about Buggati Veyron and Volkswagen Jetta? You got the point yet?

Understood, but "iono" on a forum is different than "doosh" on a shirt. ;p For one--I'm not wearing "iono" around. Haha.

I'm pulling your string. :P

I would so rock a T-Shirt .. with I O NO on it... just to see the looks on peoples faces when they are trying to read it.. .. lol ..

but I have a lot of shirts like that.. I'm a strange person my friends tell me..

I'm not lost .. With me its not what the car companies do.. It with the people that drive cars... People like to make this image of what a car is.. but when you strip away logos, emblems, labels, sheet metal and so on.. your left with just parts that are built by one company and shared with different brands with in that company.. To me when it comes to Toyota .. it is not Lexus Scion Toyota. it is just Toyota .. since they are the Motor Company ..

You're still lost. You don't determine what brand it is by little parts, but the engineering. Buggati Veyron has quad turbo from Volkswagen, does that make it a Volkswagen? No. Because of the awesome engineering in Veyron make it's a Buggati, not a Volkswagen. Same goes to Lexus IS, GS, and LS. And I forgot to mention, 4 Runner and GX460 are not the same car with different features. You can test drive both of them if you don't believe me.

Oh and even if FT86 is a Scion, it still shares the same engineering as Toyota, why do I have a lot of concern? Because it's a person's perspective, and preference. It's simple as that.

i was wondering why you mention the 4 Runner and GX460, haha. they're completely different. also, someone should just try to get a GX460 with a rear locker, haha. good luck! :)

i agree with Dark, for the most part. what i'm hoping for is that there's a Toyota version, a Scion version (if they must) and a Subaru version.

Hey guys, I was one of those people who never really every wanted to own a scion because of the dumbed down quality of pretty much everything. But we should all wait until the car is revealed before making any more negative comments about scion. They state "new dimension" so maybe they attempting to change the way we view them as a company.

In a nutshell, let's give them another chance to redeem themselves with the "FR-S"! Is that too much to ask? 4 days...just 4 more days!

I said this before. I want the first concept as Toyota. Scion can take the second concept. Subaru version should be a bit different mechanically, but boost and what not should be ideal for STi moniker.

Toyota, please listen to this man. It's a win-win-win. Please.

^ I can live with that. LOL :>:drinking: