But how am I going to get my weekly Russian Brides Here notice?

I'm sure one of those russian bride sites have an email subscription option... :D

I was pulled over for stopping at a stop sign but with my front tire went over the white line. After the cop saw I was not a thug and just a normal guy going to work, he gave me a warning.

BS traffic stop anyways. Good thing I wasn't late for work that morning.

Radar detectors help much more than that. My radar detector usually detects radar a good 1/2 to 3/4 mile away. That gives you plenty of time to slow down.

It also detects laser really well. So if a car in front of you is being zapped by laser, my radar detector picks it up good. But if you are the one being zapped then you are SOL and its too late.

Having a good radar detector is like having a 6th sense. Anytime it goes off (radar or laser), just slow down a bit and look and listen to try and pinpoint where the cop is.

It has saved me from many tickets. Haven't got caught speeding once using it.

January last year a jerk of a State Trooper lied saying that I was doing 80 in a 55 (visually not with radar). I was going 55mph because I was playing with the MPG calculator (not the avg one) in an attempt to hyper mile. I'm not calling him a jerk for doing his job, I'm calling him a jerk because he lied and was snotty to me and my wife when I was nothing but completely polite. I'm no kid with a hot rod like Humfrz :) so a little professionalism/courtesy would've been appreciated from officer Numbnutz.


I had another instance in my '06 Civic Si when it was brand new, a black RSX-S flew right past us like a bat out of hell and the policeman mistakenly pulled us over. After a minute he realized he had the wrong car. We had a laugh about it but he was a really good guy (unlike the state trooper) he complimented the car and we were on our way. I think it was an honest mistake in the sense they're both coupes, small, black and shaped like door stops.


Last instance, I hit a pot hole (poor Si) and a policeman pulled us over just to see if we were alright as the car took it kind of hard -not sure if it was an excuse to run the plates or something but not likely as he came out of the car right away (another nice human being unlike the state trooper).


Lesson learned:


Municipalities are strapped for cash so don't think a little over the speed limit is ok (tickets are a easy revenue generator) and driving a sporty Japanese coupe gets good & bad police attention -you might as well paint a target on your car.

Radar detectors are illegal here.
They even have radar detector detectors so if you wanted to use one you would need a radar detector detector detector to detect their detector detector before they detected your detector.

electronic countermeasures
electronic counter-countermeasures
electronic counter-counter-countermeasures
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I think cops are awesome and I am glad we have them around :)

I worked on the control boxes that pop chaff to confuse missiles, If I can get you a deal will you try it out and see if it will confuse cops too?

All of which could be screwed up by a spray of tinfoil confetti or the naked human eye.

Damn, I didn't read this until after I responded to Ultra's post! We were so totally on the same wavelength!

Yep, I hear ya ....... had that set up once ....... :popcorn:


humfrz

This is how I usually know there is a cop up ahead on a busy highway. Has worked very well for me for years.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/40...ake_Lights.jpg

#dashcams people!

My accident was back in the olden days before digital dashcams, cellphones and all the fancy stuff.
We would strap midgets to the fronts of our our horses and they would just take notes on what they see. I didn't even have a pager yet at that time as only drug dealers and doctors had use for them.

The next thing that you will be trying to tell us ....... is that you used a paper map to find out where you were going ...... and had to stop at a pay phone if you wanted to make a phone call ....... :confused0068:


humfrz

Weird orgies, wild parties and unleashed passions?
Have I been missing out?!

Apparently pot was much different in the 30s. These seem to be the total opposites to what the few pot smokers I ever knew actually did. Not to mention the very fact that judging from the poster they seem to have injected it back then.

yea I figured. Hey, money's money.

EMP's. Seriously it is about time we start hardening all electronics everywhere because EMP's are getting really easy to create and could easily take down like say Manhattan. Never mind real ones created by foreign countries that could totally destroy most of the electronics on the east coast.

Ah, so the docile, unwashed and pale couch potato isn't a clever disguise after all.
Too bad.

If you've ever watched the movie "The Big Hit" (which, incidentally, was not a big hit)

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I got pulled over for an "unsafe lane change" in stop-and-go traffic (we were doing 10km/h).
There was an entire empty lane because a construction vehicle had blocked it off - once I passed the construction vehicle, I moved slightly to the right so I could see if the lane was empty (I was following a minivan so I couldn't see - hence the slight move).
Lo and behold: A police cruiser was a good 10 car lengths away because there was a disabled tractor trailer off the side of the road on the shoulder.
No hazard signals, no orange triangle or flares or pylons.

So I moved back into my lane (actually, just slid back the 2 feet to the left).
It took me a good 5-8 seconds to reach the cop car.

Cop flags me down and gives me a whole spiel about unsafe lane changes.
Hands me a $120 ticket, while talking to me about common sense (the whole time, I'm polite). Scoffs and says "Yeah, right" when I tell her I couldn't see because of a van in front of me, hence the need to move a bit to the right.

I even had dash cam footage and everything.
Taking that to court - would rather pay $300 to the paralegal then give them the satisfaction.

I'm pretty pro-law enforcement, but when it comes to traffic enforcement, I find there is much to be desired when it comes to common sense.

Had an interesting thing happen today.

I had been stuck in a construction zone for several miles on the interstate, with people speeding up and slowing down inexplicably along the way. There were two lanes each direction, with a speed limit of 65.

Then the construction ended, and the highway expanded out to three lanes so that everyone who was just now going five miles under the fucking speed limit could race up to 90 and pretend they wanted to go faster all along. The speed limit here was 75. I had my cruise control on 80 in the center lane, and people were screaming past me on both sides like I was sitting still. Some of them were flying up on my rear end and swerving around me rather dangerously. Driving in Texas is definitely like sharing the road with a bunch of 13-year olds.

Way up ahead I could see what appeared to be a cop sitting on the side of the road and eased back to 75. Most of these bozos apparently didn't see him, because none of them slowed down. Sure enough, my V1 blipped, telling me the trooper had just hit someone up ahead. He came off the side of the road and was speeding up to go after the guy as I approached him right at the speed limit from behind, with no other cars around me.

When he saw me, rather than go after the guy he had just locked in on his radar, he hit me with it instead. Then he swerved uncertainly for a moment, trying to decide whether to pull back off the road or follow me. I passed him, so he fell in behind me and followed me for about a mile. Then he pulled over and reset his speed trap.

So follow what I'm saying: A cop actually gave up a citation for someone he had already decided to chase, who was easily going 90 mph or more, in the hopes of catching my bright red BRZ instead. THIS is the bullshit I deal with driving this car.

I just think it's cops, not cars. At the time I was in college and had a 98 neon (this was two years ago) beater I used as a DD because college was 60 miles each way. I had a 3.2 liter stroker 280zx back home at the time that was my toy car and back and forth to work. I was returning my rented textbooks in my red neon with the clear coat flaking off and missing a hubcap going 60 in a 55 (it struggled on the interstate with its 200k+ mile engine) and got pulled over and he asked me if I was out joyriding. I literally looked at him with the wtf face and said "in this piece of shit?" I got the ticket (this was around Christmas) and after he came back and said he was going to do me a favor and knock it down to 5 over (which was what is was for anyway). I said I hope I helped him meet his Christmas quota and drove off and just paid the damn thing. F**k the GSP.

EDIT: this is why I don't buy bright colored cars. My Z was rootbeer colored (ok, it was brown :( ) , my 944 was metallic grey, and my brz is white. Too much attention and hassle with flashy colors which is honestly unfair.

I guess your american cops see it as some sort of sport. Catch and release, who gets the biggest and nicest fish.
I find that slightly refreshing, actually.
Scandinavian traffic police are just very predictably efficient and soullessly follows their forlorn procedures with their nasty little lasers.

Canadian ones as well (or at least the ones I have ever dealt with). The nice part is that if you have a clean record they seem to be more likely to give a break then the US ones.

hmmmm.........I DO believe your car WAS "profiled" ...... :sigh:


humfrz

Damnit Hum. Every time I read that title...


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Texas was in my list of places for future IT possibilities if things don't work out here in the PNW.

Not no more if bullshit like that happens on a daily basis.

Oh, I think you would be OK, you just need the right kind of vehicle .... and stay away from border towns ..... :paddle:


humfrz

Not going to lie, driving a truck that high off the ground seems scary.

Afraid I'll run Prius and Smart Cars over. :D

I really need to get myself a Valentine One. In addition to all the goodies that go along with driving in Arizona, including millions of snowbirds doing 57 in a 65 in the left lane, and constant construction with road debris flying everywhere, the Dept of Public Safety (AZ State Police, basically) have begun the fun practice of using any and every vehicle they've ever impounded as unmarked vehicles patrolling the freeways.

The other day I rolled up on a brand new Volvo SUV, and when I got close enough I noticed the whole inside of the back window outfitted with lights...I've also seen a Durango with shiny chrome spinners decked out in police lights. You never know if any particular vehicle might be an unmarked DPS officer.

In addition to that, their "standard" unmarked vehicles are white F-150's...which is also the universal work truck of the world. The freeways in Arizona are interesting to say the least. Constant paranoia.

It definitely happens, but it does depend on the area. When I had my Eclipse GS-T years ago I got pulled over all the time for having an exhaust that was "too loud". Paid enough in tickets to buy it three or four times over. Note that Illinois law says nothing about the loudness of an exhaust, but the law states that modifying any part of the factory emissions system is illegal. Being a dumb kid at the time, I never actually bothered to research the police unfortunately.

My wife and I purchased a house in an area that's a bit more redneck, 50% of our neighbors have diesel trucks just to do the weekly shop, and most of them have aftermarket exhaust. Despite having a louder exhaust on the FRS than any of my previous cars, not once has a cop ever pulled me over or even really given me a second glance.

If it bothers you like it did me that the police are just out for cash, make sure to vote and be active in your local political scene where you can actually have an influence on their funding and policies. Hit the police right back in their pocketbook.

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No I don't think you were profiled I think you were speeding.

But lol if the trooper really said he "clocked" you. Last I checked there's not a single clock anywhere inside a RADAR unit.


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I really don't feel like responding to all the statements ITT that may be a little off base but I'll respond to this one.

For police to be certified to use radar they have to be able to visually estimate speeds with a (I believe) 3mph margin of error. They are tested on this on real roads and if they don't pass they are not certified to operate radar.




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Same thing happened to me in South Carolina. Was on a 65mph divided highway, pass a trooper going the other way. Didn't light up or anything, so I figure I'm in the clear. A good, solid 10 minutes later, after I get passed by other traffic (clearly I'm not the fastest on the road) he cuts off the truck behind me to light me up.

Says he clocked me at 80 in a 65. We all have big digital speedos and the highest I saw on mine wasn't even close to 80. Acts like he's doing me a favor by writing it for 74 in a 65. I'm out of state, so I just pay the small fine and move on. Definitely felt profiled though. He didn't care about the truck going the same speed or the Toyota sedan that flew past me. Whatever.

There may be a jurisdiction that has that requirement, but that's certainly not true of all of them. It took me no time at all to find a thread on officer.com where several cops discussed how they just had to be familiar with the equipment to use radar. There's also a federal court case discussed here that describes a visual estimation test that only requires the cop to be within 12 mph. At 60 mph, that's a 20% allowable error, which is ridiculous.

But all that is beside the point. The problem is that allowing a cop to fine you based on his perception of your speed means a corrupt cop can stand in court and say anything he wants, whether it's actually true or not, and the court will accept it because you are presumed guilty unless you can prove your innocence. If I'm going 71 mph in a 75 zone, the cop can simply say I was going 85 mph, and I'll be convicted of the offense with no physical or objective evidence whatsoever. It really doesn't matter whether he can accurately estimate speed in a test situation. The cop has an incentive to lie in real world situations, and there's nothing in place to keep a corrupt cop in check.

Up to the mid-1700s, there was a presumption of guilt in English common law. Accusers were paid for their testimony, and it was common for professional accusers to have innocent people arrested in order to get paid. If you were accused, you had to prove your innocence or go to jail (or worse). The concept of a presumption of innocence was introduced in 1784, and after that courts began making the prosecution actually prove its case. In the US, we liked the idea so much that we enshrined it in our criminal process.

But not in traffic court. What we have with these speed "experts" is a Georgian-era legal process in which paid accusers can say anything they want to get a conviction, throwing out any presumption of innocence. You're speeding because the cop says so.

Furthermore, police in the United States are trained to lie for the greater good. With the US being such a litigious society, the report writing courses in the police academies in this country teach cops how to present "facts" in such a way as to reduce liability for their departments. If force was necessary to subdue someone, the cops are trained to claim that the person was resisting arrest or assaulted the officer, when we now see video after video contradicting their account.

A great example is the "don't tase me bro" guy. Three of the cops in that incident stated in their reports that Andrew Meyer kicked them and spit on them, when the video of the incident clearly showed he didn't. That was a situation where the use of the taser was completely justified, just based on his disruption of the meeting and refusal to leave. Yet they lied on their reports exactly as they had been trained to do in order to avoid legal liability if he tried to sue them for excessive force.

So not only do we have a 1700s legal system in traffic court with paid accusers whose word is accepted unchallenged, but those accusers are also trained to lie and operate in an environment where lying about the accused is an accepted practice "for the greater good" of not getting the department sued.

It's no wonder there's so much police corruption being captured on camera now.

It's no wonder that people have negative feelings toward police.

Last I checked, "clock" as a verb meant to "attain or register (a specified time, distance, or speed)".

Here, lmgtfy

Yep, I was speeding ...... :slap:

However, since the FR-S, from the front, looks like it's going about 40 MPH, when it's standing still, I still think that's why he flipped his radar on me .....:(

Since the trooper looked to be almost as old as I am, he used the old school term "clocked" ...... and me, being old school, knew very well what he meant ..... :sigh:


humfrz

Good thing it wasn't the really old school definition of "clocked"
http://taijineigong.com/images/knock...bs-lorenzo.gif

This is another good point. When those speed "experts" have their ability to judge speed tested, what vehicles are used? I suspect they aren't sports cars that look faster than police cruisers.

I've had several incidents where cops have hit me with radar or laser, looked at the readout and hit me again because they couldn't believe I was going the speed limit. I suspect that in real world situations, they're nowhere near as accurate as they pretend to be to fool a judge.