I have a BRZ and a 2002 TT, in the end it will come down to driving skill and who knows their car better.

Right. He's only 18 so by definition is considered subprime having little to no debt repayment history. At that age, building a strong credit rating should be his focus since it affects many other aspects of life for years to come.

Of course someone else could have bought him the car or are making the payments so creditworthiness might not matter to him.

Realistically though, this all sounds like a cynic twice his age having sadistic fun yanking the chain of an excitable boy.

Unless I have all of this backwards and he's yanking ours. ;)

Someone who should know better winding up someone who doesn't know better.

I already put that we are going to go to an event instead it sound like more fun. It would be safer, and after talking about it with my friend we dropped the 500dollor bet. because I think we're both guna lap each others cars and then lap out own to take the variable into consideration. Kinda like that one guy who reviewed the s2k and frs. That way we test the cars not just ourselves cause there close on power, so I think it might realy come down to skill. Anyways it's still guna be a couple months or so before it happens. I'll keep you guys updated. We will not be racing on public roads !!

I'm not a boy I maintain and care for myself and wife. I save up for my frs since 2013 so I can manage it the way I wanted to money wise. I put 12 grand as my down payment and I always send my monthly payment with 200 or 150 extra. I'm not dumb I simply enjoy driving if I choose to use my money for a stupid bet I can. It's my money and I worked hard for what I have today.

Not like the exact same thing doesn't happen on here every day!

I think the OP has been much more responsible about the whole thing then I would have been at 18!

Shit, the race would have happened the day they proposed it and I would have either won (or lost) the $500 (about 3 weeks pay back then).

Mind you, to ask anybody's opinion on such a thing back then would have been about a 6 month process of sending letters to magazines, hoping one of them printed it and then waiting for the next edition to see the responses!

Audi TT... Wait, that's the one that looks like someone stepped on a VW Beetle?

Just forget the challenge and continually refer to his car as a Volkswagen or "squashed bug" whenever he tries to start shit.

All good except for the bold part that sounds like a contradiction. Glad you came to your senses and dropped the bet.

We didint drop the bet cause we came to our "senses". We dropped it cause if he drives my car to lap it he will purposely drive slower to higher his chances. That would make the bet dumb. I'll admit there might not be a reason to the 500 that makes seance to you, but again it's my money it was a simple bet like many people bet on sports.

Reinstate the bet, but make the winner the driver who has the best combined time driving both vehicles. That way there's an incentive to drive each car to its limit, so you'll get to see who's the better driver AND have a shot at seeing which car is faster.

There is an autocross at San Antonio Raceway on Nov 23.

Before you edited the first post you were considering betting on a street race, a criminal act. That's what makes no sense except to someone with serious lack of judgement, i.e., endangering themselves and other innocent people for money on public roads that could've led to jail and forfeiture of the car.

Incidentally, autocross has it's risks. Search here for an owner who rolled his at a sanctioned autocross. He wasn't injured but IIRC took a huge financial hit since almost all standard insurance policies do not cover racing, sanctioned or otherwise.

Anyway, sports betting vs. this isn't an analogy I'd make.

It's arguable whether they are designed for fun rather than performance in mind. Unlocking that performance, however, arguably takes a few modifications.

I would agree with you that they are packaged for fun off the lot.

I'm tired of the FA20 bashing. Anyone that rags on this engine has no idea what it takes to squeeze power out of an NA engine, much less how to use it.

Considering their market, it took balls for them to tune it the way they did.

What do you mean by the way they tuned it took balls?

Did you just get your license, brah? If you did, you might have it taken away pretty quick. If you do decide to race against this guy, he's had a lot more time behind the wheel than you have so, yeah, I'm pretty sure that he's like a superstar driver in comparison to your newly acquired license to drive.

You might be the inexperienced Jesse to his Johnny Tran.

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Too soon, Jr.

This should end this thread OP does not deserve this car....

Or the accident that follows

Not a reasonable statement.
I bet there is not a person here that actually follows the speed limit slows down for every corner and obeys ever single law regardless of how holier then thou they want to talk.
Point is he didn't do it!
Shit I did at his age scares the crap out me just to think about now and 30 years from now kids will drive the same!
Not that is it right or good but don't judge him based upon a couple of sentence.

Also, I think the FA-20 sounds outstanding with almost any of the affordable catbacks out there.

It's peaky even with the variable valve timing which is why there are so many complaints about the torque dip. I know about the aftermarket tunes and such but, from the factory, considering emissions requirements, fuel economy goals, their wide target market, I stand by my statement. It took some balls to go with as narrow a power band as they did.

"That German suppository." ... wrinkle your nose and upper lip then wave the bad smell away

OP, easiest way for this guy to stop giving you shit. Line up your cars, conduct a public survey from women walking by as to which car they'd rather have their next date roll up in. Case closed... Resume living your life.

Many would just say "which one cost more"?
Unless one was red or orange then they will pick it!

$500 bet????

Fuck that tell him you on race for slips.

i like the way you think.

IN AMERICUH WE GO BIG OR GO HOME.

Now what would I do with all those slips?

I'm just going off the experiences I've had where women assume my car is WAY fancier than it is and ask for a ride... The really messed up part though, is how I rarely have the balls to tell them the truth. :evil:

Well, just don't tell them the actual number and just casually say "oh it is cheaper then some I could buy".
That way you aren't lying and seem really rich!

i gave up after trying to read your posts. for a sec, i thought i had english problems cuz i couldnt understand your shit.

Says the guy who apparently lost his shift key!

As of now, that would probably be a lie too! HA :lol:

...the reason why the value of mine will keep climbing :)

@Frsultramarine15 I can tell you how the race will go, you will win. The audi tt quarto is a slow turbo car when stock its on par with a genises coupe 2.0t. The only thing that will hinder you will be lack of skill. Our cars with just a few parts added can hang with 600cc/650cc/750cc/ and some 1000cc bikes. I have experience "playing" with other cars and can tell you the car isn't as slow as everyone makes it seem it just takes the proper driver behind the wheel.

Please dear god post results...


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The Audi is not any better than the GT86 on paper. It weighs more and I'm just going to go on a whim and say the GT86 handles better.

It's going to come down to experience and who knows how to drive. Or save up, turbo your car and blow him away. :burnrubber:

You shouldn't be scared but then again you are 18. I know I was not close to the level driver I am now at 23, when I was 18.

Drive safe and good luck. :thumbup:

Pushing out 100 HP/Liter NA is considered the standard in the industry. Nothing to be ashamed about. Especially at the price.

OH there it is!
Sorry, could not resist as the irony was spectacular.

Grrrrr..... even now I can't stop staring at it. so wrong.