Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 274217)

That's not a professional thing to say though...

BTW

I've never heard of a John who works at Putnam/Burlingame. Also, I would expect an experienced rep would've left their work number which usually begins with (650)-373, but since it's Craigslist it might be due to informality.

ALSO the sales manager dislikes/discourages the FR-S Craigslist ads. Maybe he's new? It's a bit strange. I know all of the veteran Salesmen there, I've known them before kindergarten, and I'm in 2nd year college now.

*edit Just looked at their online page, and there's no John, which could either mean it's a nickname or a new guy.

http://www.putnamtoyota.com/bay-area...toyota-dealers

ALSO

My dad sold all of the first 3 FR-S's with the leather in 3 selling days. Currently, he's the only salesman from his dealership to sell an FR-S.

They will their FR-S, and a few people from this forum have already contacted him. (Thanks btw!) My dad has been there for close to 17 years now, this kind of thing isn't new. In fact, he says this is just like how MR2's were.

ALSO

Dealerships who are doing this want profit, no doubt. But when the profit is just as much as a Prius and an equipped Corolla, it's understandable. In the end, someone is going to walk...I mean DRIVE away with it happily. Who cares who it is, as long as they sign the papers off happily.

If you're not buying the car, there's no need to attack a dealership. Especially Putnam...that's like a second home to me so I take it personal. Even the other dealers, everyone shops for a car differently. Everyone sells a car differently.

If you're interested in an FR-S it is true that Putnam has a whiteout MT with Leather. No front plate currently. The leather is nice, I heard it has the FR-S logo. We had our leather done in our car from the same guys. Black and perforated and it still smells good until this day when it was done over 7 years ago.

Putnam will also be selling FR-S's without leather, of course. That's when more come in.

Thanks everyone, happy driving!

PS. If I were a manager for any dealership, I would've offered the car bone stock just because I understand the heritage/driver's car discourse. In other words I'm one who's not in favor of any kind of mark-ups but I don't criticize other dealerships for doing so. I let it go.

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere (Post 274119)

I called just about every bay area Scion and Subaru dealer. Piercy was by far the easiest to work with but had good luck with Sunnyvale also.

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere (Post 274520)

I don't care what you say, a dealer adding leather and charging more is a sleeze sales tactic to add more GP to the car. They should be selling the car for MSRP to the people patiently waiting in line to buy it. Instead they are trying to cram in extra profit and have it up on CL waiting for some moron with a little extra cash to buy it, depriving someone who really wants the car from getting it.

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere (Post 274520)

people patiently waiting in line to buy it...who really wants the car...

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere (Post 274119)

I called just about every bay area Scion and Subaru dealer. Piercy was by far the easiest to work with but had good luck with Sunnyvale also.

Stevens Creek Subaru tried to sell me on $2.5K over MSRP without even adding anything. Just calling it a "market adjustment," LOL.

Originally Posted by Bones36 (Post 274534)

so which subaru dealers are selling at msrp?

Originally Posted by Bones36 (Post 274534)

so which subaru dealers are selling at msrp?

Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 274561)

That's fine, and I understand but unfortunately dealers will not try to fix something that isn't broken. It's the invisible hand at work again.

If people want it for MSRP,they can wait...you even said it yourself ...


Other BA dealers will have it for MSRP. Juicyjosh from City Toyota/Scion has been selling his for a great price from what I've seen. Piercy Toyota is reputable as well!

Originally Posted by Mike Sino (Post 274584)

i had a deposit at sunnyvale toyota... i did not like my experience with the dealer i was working with because i knew more about the car than he did and i had to call him to get updates... once the cars came in he tried to sell me a color and transmission i didnt want... only good thing is getting my deposit was fast... the $2.5k market adjustedment that stevens creek subaru is charging is better then the $3k they wanted to charge me to preorder it 3 months ago... i still dont agree with it

Originally Posted by PMok (Post 274592)

If I absolutely WANTED to have one right now (and realistically, no one NEEDS this car, this is a toy or luxury item), I would keep calling around to see who has the car on the lot, and try to negotiate down the markup as much as possible. There is just too much demand and not enough supply to find available cars at MSRP in the area right now. If you can wait... then save some money and wait. I am trying to be patient and I really don't need another car, so I won't pay over MSRP on principle. Paying over MSRP just enables/justifies the dealers to markup the next time and every time a "hot" new car arrives.

Originally Posted by PMok (Post 267518)

this is kind of a stretch for NorCal, but maybe someone will do it... I considered it. Lithia Subaru in Reno has a SWP BRZ Limited 6MT coming any day now, not spoken for. ETA 6/20.

Positive:
They said they will sell at MSRP. No markups

Negative:
they ask for $1000 NON-REFUNDABLE deposit to reserve it.
Car has several port options that made me turn it down.
- the Popular package 1 (he didn't say a or b, but assume 1b)
- chrome gas cap
- rear body diffuser (yeah the $750 option).

if it didn't have the last 2 I would probably have gone for it.
total MSRP price $29707.

Originally Posted by dnL (Post 275210)

I just watched the ship carrying my car leave the bay area. Guess they're done unloading. My guess is that a whole bunch of new FR-S are about to hit dealers. Keep an eye out!

Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 274795)

My dad just sold that Whiteout MT FR-S from Putnam, the one with the fishy Craigslist ad.

That's his fourth FR-S sold, only salesman still.

If you call him, he can get your information and let you know when they get anything at all, you can even tell him your preferences. If you don't want it with leather he can let you know when they will have one without it. It's not up to him to decide whether or not to install leather in a car unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Norcalscionchamp (Post 276111)

At my dealer here in Redding we have sold out our next two allocation units because we don't charge anything over mrsp or load the car up with accessories... we take only a fully refundable deposits...and the customer gets to choose from a few colors and gets their transmission choice...If you want to add stuff like the FiveAxis kit, Bespoke or wheels we can do that but we wont add it unless you want it....we have one car left in our allocations for the year if anyone is interested contact me

Originally Posted by E92M3Guy (Post 276709)

What is the FiveAxis kit?

Originally Posted by Norcalscionchamp (Post 276111)

At my dealer here in Redding we have sold out our next two allocation units because we don't charge anything over mrsp or load the car up with accessories... we take only a fully refundable deposits...and the customer gets to choose from a few colors and gets their transmission choice...If you want to add stuff like the FiveAxis kit, Bespoke or wheels we can do that but we wont add it unless you want it....we have one car left in our allocations for the year if anyone is interested contact me

Originally Posted by Bones36 (Post 274630)

I feel the same way, I'm not going to pay over msrp. I can wait til 2013

Originally Posted by Zenoture (Post 279214)

I actually feel kind of bad for those who got ripped off now, since I paid $3k mark-up and the car came with 127 miles off the lot... Love the car, and it's been awesome driving it, still feel like crap for possibly getting this car from a shady deal gone bad...

Originally Posted by k33n3r (Post 289717)

I just posted this in the Sacramento area dealers thread, but thought I'd copy it here for everyone's FYI as well...

Went to Geweke Toyota in Lodi today (2hr drive from S.F.) and almost bought an MT Firestorm FR-S. Went on a test drive (already had 80 miles on it) and decided to buy it at MSRP. Got through a bunch of paperwork and about to finish up with the finance guy when the salesman tells me the car was damaged and repaired. He tells me the hood and grill were replaced, but would not give me specifics on how the damage occurred. Then he tells me they can't lower the price due to Scion's Pure Pricing policy (not that I would've bought it anyway). Unbelievable. 2 hour drive and was just about to sign the finance papers. Sad thing is, they'll do this dance over and over until some poor, desperate kid buys it. Anyway, at least I got a test drive out of it.

Originally Posted by PMok (Post 289756)

the sad thing is, who knows how many cars (of all kinds not just these) get damaged coming from the factory or on transporters. I bet it happens all the time. One of the BRZ's I looked at, the sales guy was telling me they had to repair the front bumper after it was damaged while driving it off the truck. Fact is, unless you're getting the white-glove LFA delivery treatment, all cars are probably getting abused along the delivery pipeline. If the repairs are done right you might not have ever noticed the issue for the life of the vehicle if no one told you. Sometimes ignorance is bliss?

Originally Posted by Gaen (Post 289848)

after reading this and then going to the scion section i saw this post

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10329

thought it was it but then i noticed u said damage was at the front XD

Originally Posted by Norcalscionchamp (Post 291805)

@Piro Yep Whats Up man!!! good to see you on here...these things are hot huh...its crazy how dealers are trying to rip people off just because of inventory shortage....good thing that FarNorcal dealers are legit lol...its worth the drive from the big cities to come to chico or redding and save $3,000...i will even buy you guys a round at the local bar after i deliver the car : )

Originally Posted by Norkoastal (Post 292553)

Does anyone know if Colma Subaru is marking this puppy up bad? I went to place a DP for a Premium BRZ, but no MSRP price was filled on the paper (500 is refundable though).

I'd rather not wait 5 months to have the price padded with market adjustments and other nonsense that would push me into a 30k+ car.

Thx!