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00NissanNinja 06-06-2012 11:21 PM

incorrect sir, its $4500 more than the base

http://www.insideline.com/hyundai/ve...-veloster.html

the link is dead since they updated the info.

Memphis 06-06-2012 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 00NissanNinja (Post 245798)
incorrect sir, its $4500 more than the base

http://www.insideline.com/hyundai/ve...-veloster.html

the link is dead since they updated the info.

Yea saw that. Just going by what they were saying.


Heres autoblog:
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/06/06/2...d-from-21-950/

00NissanNinja 06-06-2012 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Memphis (Post 245810)
Yea saw that. Just going by what they were saying.


Heres autoblog:
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/06/06/2...d-from-21-950/

Wasn't doggin you man, was saying edmunds was incorrect

Memphis 06-06-2012 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 00NissanNinja (Post 245822)
Wasn't doggin you man, was saying edmunds was incorrect

Lol I know. I was just saying as well. Emoticons FTW. :happy0180:

earthsscum 06-07-2012 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Memphis (Post 245642)
Yep that's you.... rod knocks and all.

http://www.veloster.org/forum/9-hyun...otor-7k-3.html

haha small car community.. the veloster just could not get epa gas milage which pissed me off while i did say that I "lugged" the motor i meant it as in I drove slow not to the point where the motor is struggling to keep up.. my brzs first 2 tanks have both netted 31mpg and thats with aggressive city driving

iVictorE 07-11-2012 03:02 PM

I've been watching the Veloster Turbo over the past week and I've grown to fall in LOVE with it. At first when my father showed me the vehicle, i could never imagine myself in one. Now, after thoroughly looking through the specs, I found it to be a great car for me. The appearance seemed to be acquired over a couple days. I was looking at other options such as the FR-S, GTI, and Focus ST. However, with this being my second car at the age of 19. I found that the Volester turbo would be the most bang for its buck and most enjoyable (keep in mind, I've only been driving about 2 years with an auto e320). I'm most likely purchasing one for Chirstmas fully loaded for about 25k. I'll see what sort of deal the dealer will throw at me.

SuperGTS 09-28-2013 04:43 AM

Hyundai Veloster...
 
Hey all,

I was thinking about all this Toyobaru/The Twins deal... and I thought, what about the Veloster? It looks quiet similar, came out at about the same time... I think it is pretty much the Hatch FRS/86/BRZ... Does anyone else agree? Considering they are both very similar. In my opinion, they both fall into the same category. Basically this whole thing is just like the 4WD ute deal last year, with the Mitsubishi Triton, Toyota Hilux, etcetera... So now there is a small-ish sporty car thing going on. Who will be next? Mitsubishi? Mazda already has the RX-8 which ALSO pretty much falls into the same category.

Opinions?

Muskokan 09-28-2013 05:19 AM

Don't compare our cars to a hundy, have some car pride bro!

Anthony 09-28-2013 05:21 AM

If the Australian Veloster is even remotely similar to the US version, then I have no idea what you're talking about. It's a slow, squishy, front wheel drive economy car.

YMAA 09-28-2013 05:40 AM

I assume you mean the Veloster Turbo. And the answer is still no.

Aside from the fact that the Twins and the Veloster are small, relatively inexpensive cars advertised as "fun" rides, the two have very little in common. The Hyundai is FWD, which alone puts a lot of distance between the two vehicles.* And as far as I can tell all Hyundai changed from the normal Veloster was adding a small turbocharger and a sportier interior. The chassis, suspension, transmission, steering, etc. are virtually unchanged from the base model, which means that while the Turbo is about as powerful as the Twins it's an uninspiring driving experience.

So no, I wouldn't put the Veloster in the same category as the Twins. Having said that, I do think the Twins are almost singlehandedly bringing back the inexpensive compact sports car market. As Chris Harris on /Drive puts it, the world needs to get back to a point where we're enjoying "performance because of its nature, not because of its quantity."



*FWD isn't necessarily a death sentence, as the Focus ST is still decently fun to drive.

SuperGTS 09-28-2013 06:36 AM

http://www.edmunds.com/scion/fr-s/20...ison-test.html <-- Check out this so you can possibly refine your opinions.

Anthony 09-28-2013 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperGTS (Post 1239104)
http://www.edmunds.com/scion/fr-s/20...ison-test.html <-- Check out this so you can possibly refine your opinions.

I remember reading that a long time ago. You didn't say Turbo, and I've only driven the NA version myself, so that's all I can use for a first hand comparison. That being said, I still say there's no comparison, even comparing it to the Turbo. Did you read the whole article, or just the first part?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edmunds
We came away from the Veloster Turbo disappointed. It's not a convincing sporting proposition, rather a package that trades heavily on its funky styling and unusual asymmetry.


TiggaPlease 09-28-2013 07:00 AM

I can't believe you think they look similar the veloster's lines make me wanna barf.


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Gaiseric 09-28-2013 07:25 AM

The veloster is shit. Doesn't matter if its turbo or not. It might be cool for a 16 year old girl or an old lady but it drives and handles like shit. We could not sell used velosters at our dealership to save our lives. For the price of veloster go get a scion tc or a corolla because its such more bang for the buck.

Anthony 09-28-2013 07:27 AM

In fairness, it did out-slalom the FR-S, according to that article. But that is it.

neutron256 09-28-2013 03:50 PM

I've driven the non-turbo veloster and unless there is something radically different with the turbo other then power there is no real comparison. Also keep in mind that 200hp with a turbo is not as good as 200hp NA.

FRyeS 09-28-2013 05:29 PM

Yet another in the long line of horrible comparisons..

n2oinferno 09-28-2013 11:19 PM

I like the Veloster Turbo on paper. In practice, they took a potentially good hot hatch candidate, gave it some more aggressive styling and a spunkier engine, and then neutered it with gearing for higher MPG. No LSD, and in the Hyundai Think Tank chats I've participated in, they didn't really seem very focused on making it much better either. I was told right away that IRS would never be considered for their higher horsepower model - keep in mind that this is back when the Turbo model didn't even exist and we were chatting about "a possible new sporty trim addition to the Veloster lineup. Kudos to them for making an economy car available with a matte paint option, though.

Based on my experience with the car itself, I was more disappointed than I expected to be. The touch points aren't very good, parts feel overly cheap even if they look okay on the inside, and it just doesn't feel that great to drive. As a slightly-faster appliance car, it should do fine. But there are plenty of other cars in its segment I'd pick way before I had to settle on the VT.

thill 10-01-2013 11:52 AM

I drove both the turbo and non-turbo version and the Veloster is really not a drivers car at all. It is geared toward being a different looking car that has lots of tech features and gets good gas mileage for a good price.

It is not even close to being a drivers car. The electric power steering in the car is very poor IMHO, and this is a problem across all Hyundai cars that I have driven that use electric steering (the Gencoupe still uses hydraulic). The manual transmission is just okay. The driving dynamics are just not there compared to the FR-S/BRZ and it is not even close.

It is a good car for a hipster who cares more about tech features and MPG, and a different design than a driving enthusiast.

bedabi 10-01-2013 11:56 AM

I'd love to have the Veloster's trick 3rd door on my BRZ.

Burrcold 10-01-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thill (Post 1243902)
The electric power steering in the car is very poor IMHO, and this is a problem across all Hyundai cars that I have driven that use electric steering (the Gencoupe still uses hydraulic).

The weighted hydraulic steering of my old gen coupe is one of the only things I miss about the car.

infinite012 10-01-2013 12:21 PM

I test drove both Veloster and Veloster Turbo before purchasing the BRZ.

Since the V and VT both share the same chassis and suspension, they both rode the same/had the same handling characteristics. There was a really unsettling wiggling in the rear of the cars (a product of the "V beam" rear axle design, probably) that swayed me away from buying it solely because it felt unsafe at anything >35 mph. Then there was the issue of MPG claim (40) vs real MPG (~33). Why have a car that felt unsafe at highway speeds and gets the same MPG as the BRZ?

Kelbyat07 10-01-2013 12:22 PM

My friends told me the turbo one drives like shit. If you are comparing our car to shit then you better go take a cold shower. The veloster did come out around the same time but its fwd, slow, its a hatch, not really nimble, and ugly looking.

thill 10-01-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite012 (Post 1243968)
I test drove both Veloster and Veloster Turbo before purchasing the BRZ.

Since the V and VT both share the same chassis and suspension, they both rode the same/had the same handling characteristics. There was a really unsettling wiggling in the rear of the cars (a product of the "V beam" rear axle design, probably) that swayed me away from buying it solely because it felt unsafe at anything >35 mph. Then there was the issue of MPG claim (40) vs real MPG (~33). Why have a car that felt unsafe at highway speeds and gets the same MPG as the BRZ?

Yes, the VT desperately screams for an LSD. And yes, Hyundai drastically overestimate's their MPG... They finally got caught...

infinite012 10-01-2013 12:57 PM

I should also note that the Hyundai dealership was going to give me over KBB on trade-in for my 08 STI plus they lowered the price of a Veloster Turbo Ultimate with the auto transmission to $25,xxx before TTL, so I would have made out crazy good on that deal.

But then I found a private buyer for my STI.

Entroper 10-01-2013 06:01 PM

We test drove a Veloster Turbo. It's a car that looks amazing on paper, and even pretty snazzy on the outside. Opinions will vary on that last part, but what they won't vary on is that once you get inside the car, it doesn't remotely live up to its promises. People have already listed its flaws, so I don't need to repeat them.

Hyundai is getting there. They've figured out the math, but they're a ways off from figuring out the X factor.

Diode Dynamics 10-01-2013 06:04 PM

They are very different cars IMO. I'm on forums for both, and they are too different to be compared

Nick C.

Gaiseric 10-01-2013 06:26 PM

I think I can sum up everyone's opinion in 3 simple words.

DON'T BUY IT!

:cheers:

Diode Dynamics 10-01-2013 06:44 PM

Well that's not necessarily true, it's still a nice car, just not anywhere near as fun as the Twins

Nick C.

Gaiseric 10-01-2013 06:55 PM

For the price point, there are better options. Like every car there is a market for it, someone will buy it no matter what. I thought it was pretty cool when it first came out but then I realized 3 doors is a stupid idea, and it doesn't drive good at all.

rskdsk 10-01-2013 08:25 PM

I bought a fully loaded veloster ... Had it for about 3 months ... until I hit a bump and my glass roof shattered.

That combined with the impossible "fishtank" rear visibility made my dump it asap


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