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zAnSh1n 03-07-2012 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Stryker Trailwood (Post 150771)
he is talking about the one thats covered in the swirl camo wrap
o ic...

color matching that tail light cover will look uber tacky, pep boys special... it will also be illegal since the covers will block the side facing reflectors; not the business...

west2k95 03-07-2012 01:32 AM
Us release?
 
Is there going to be a release of this car in the US or is it only in Japan? I know the scion is almost the same car. But the Toyota one has more features, so that is why I would like to know for certain. Is it isn't going to be release in the US than why not?

zAnSh1n 03-07-2012 01:33 AM
the AS1 will only be offered from Scion [FR-S] and Subaru [BRZ] in the US...

Xdragonxb0i 03-07-2012 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by zAnSh1n (Post 150846)
the AS1 will only be offered from Scion [FR-S] and Subaru [BRZ] in the US...
Brz is basically equivalent to the gt-86, except for minor details.
equivalent as meaning features. price range and market.

Snoopyalien24 03-07-2012 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Xdragonxb0i (Post 150864)
Brz is basically equivalent to the gt-86, except for minor details.
equivalent as meaning features. price range and market.
Not just cosmetically, but suspension tune aswell

zAnSh1n 03-07-2012 01:54 AM
the sus is tuned slightly different between the gt86/fr-s and brz, no?

tripjammer 03-07-2012 02:58 AM
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1331044395

Looks like Europe gets the frameless rear view mirror. Why we not get this in the USA?

zAnSh1n 03-07-2012 03:05 AM
i prefer the auto-dimming w/ homelink...

Fussy08X 03-07-2012 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 150912)

Looks like Europe gets the frameless rear view mirror. Why we not get this in the USA?
Money my friend. but dont worry im sure if scion doesnt hav it as an option u can just buy it from ebay or subaru or where ever later on down the track for not too much

jer305 03-07-2012 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by zAnSh1n (Post 150768)
yes, this car is light in general, but it's not THAT light considering it's specs/dimensions...

7th gen celica's curb weight clocked in at ~2500lbs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_...2.80.932006.29


wut?

Your not seriously trying to compare a FF car to the FR of the GT86 are you?:thumbdown:

... Anyways thanks for the pics and I am happy to hear the official weight!

OrbitalEllipses 03-07-2012 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jer305 (Post 151137)
Your not seriously trying to compare a FF car to the FR of the GT86 are you?:thumbdown:

... Anyways thanks for the pics and I am happy to hear the official weight!
That's why the best RWD cars are actually just a FWD car going in reverse!

zAnSh1n 03-07-2012 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jer305 (Post 151137)
Your not seriously trying to compare a FF car to the FR of the GT86 are you?:thumbdown:

... Anyways thanks for the pics and I am happy to hear the official weight!
does it really add that much more weight being a rwd?

and as far as i can see, the brz "feels" smaller than the other two as well, so...

carbonBLUE 03-07-2012 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jer305 (Post 151137)
Your not seriously trying to compare a FF car to the FR of the GT86 are you?:thumbdown:

... Anyways thanks for the pics and I am happy to hear the official weight!
he was just saying it could be lighter but he doesnt consider the crash test ratings of the celica... they flat out suck... except the rear end will total any car that hits it, ive been rear ended twice both cars that hit me were totaled and my car hasnt had the bumper changed yet, i am $2500 richer from "damaged bumpers" thats like a whole paycheck right there!

zAnSh1n 03-07-2012 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE (Post 151208)
he was just saying it could be lighter but he doesnt consider the crash test ratings of the celica... they flat out suck...
i figured as such... that car was too light for what it was, had to take a hit somewhere [npi]...

tripjammer 03-07-2012 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Fussy08X (Post 151005)
Money my friend. but dont worry im sure if scion doesnt hav it as an option u can just buy it from ebay or subaru or where ever later on down the track for not too much
thanks bro...I just like that mirror I know the home link is good, but what if this has auto dimming and homelink too? Nobody has said yes or no on it.

zAnSh1n 03-07-2012 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 151403)
thanks bro...I just like that mirror I know the home link is good, but what if this has auto dimming and homelink too? Nobody has said yes or no on it.
hmmm, maybe, but hard to believe on a "frameless" unit... unless if the homelink buttons are touchscreen based :D

DoogenBurns 03-07-2012 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 151143)
That's why the best RWD cars are actually just a FWD car going in reverse!
LOL! You mean like, forklifts?

Quentin 03-07-2012 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by subatoy (Post 150617)
Is this the US spec?
the BRZ weighs 2,760lbs, so I don't see this car weighing 160lbs less.
WTF?
This is a Toyota GT86, which is not coming to the US...

tree fingers 03-07-2012 09:31 PM
Are European crash standards typically less stringent?

tripjammer 03-07-2012 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by zAnSh1n (Post 151407)
hmmm, maybe, but hard to believe on a "frameless" unit... unless if the homelink buttons are touchscreen based :D
Oh man now you talking!:thumbsup:

tripjammer 03-07-2012 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 151508)
This is a Toyota GT86, which is not coming to the US...
Also there is no stripped down version of the GT86 in europe. So is this 2601 pounds for that version?

Maybe just maybe the Subaru BRZ is going to be 100 to 160 heavier than the FR-S....hmmmm maybe....LMAO!

zAnSh1n 03-07-2012 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tree fingers (Post 151557)
Are European crash standards typically less stringent?
it appears so, judging by the lighter weight...

kangu 03-08-2012 02:58 AM
I really wish that the Scion FR-S came with the same climate control layout thats in the GT-86.

Sasquachulator 03-08-2012 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by kangu (Post 151827)
I really wish that the Scion FR-S came with the same climate control layout thats in the GT-86.
It does.

Just not the Auto HVAC ones.....:lol:

Matador 03-08-2012 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Capt Canuck (Post 150193)
From the placard above... 'The Nurburgring played an important role...' Hmm ;-)

From 'first drive' reports... 'when you ask Tada-san, the engineering boss in charge of the project the usual, turgid, Nurburgring lap-time question, he just shrugs and smiles. He doesn't care: "This doesn't matter."'

Very interesting to see it come in under 1200kgs though. To get a modern coupe weighing that little is impressive :-)

Notice they said the Nurburgring played an important roll, not nurburgring laptimes played an important role... SMH:slap:

Alfie 03-08-2012 10:41 PM
Glad to see they doubled the hight/protection of the plastic stone chip cover just behind the front wheels- now held with 3 rivets and it looks like these models have also been fitted with the plastic wheel well liners front and rear. I was starting to worry about this 'cause we can have some pretty gritty and salty winters in Toronto!

viper_driver 03-09-2012 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CSSM (Post 150185)
I doubt Toyota would let a typo slip by at an event like this
Scion would.

NemesisPrime909 03-09-2012 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GTR (Post 150720)
disappointing 0-100 time for me, 7 seconds is pretty pathetic.

why? They've said from the beginning that this car isn't about fast lap times or big horse power, but that it was all about Balance

so it's 0-100km time is "low" I guarantee you when driven it will feel properly planted and consistent rather than all over the place like some cars are

stlgrym3 03-09-2012 09:13 PM
why Toyota name them Scion here in the US? such a turn off. i want originality, i want tradition, Scion brand has neither, it reeks cheap teenager first car with loud audio system to me.

Capt Canuck 03-09-2012 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stlgrym3 (Post 152973)
why Toyota name them Scion here in the US? such a turn off. i want originality, i want tradition, Scion brand has neither, it reeks cheap teenager first car with loud audio system to me.
You're an open minded chap aren't ya?

Peel off the Scion badges, glue on some Toyota ones, always refer to it as the '86, and get it serviced at a joint Toyota/Scion dealership where you can wait with all the Camry and Prius owners.

dsgerbc 03-09-2012 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tree fingers (Post 151557)
Are European crash standards typically less stringent?
Nope.

SunnyD 03-09-2012 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by stlgrym3 (Post 152973)
why Toyota name them Scion here in the US? such a turn off. i want originality, i want tradition, Scion brand has neither, it reeks cheap teenager first car with loud audio system to me.
I drive a Scion and I am neither a teenager nor is it my first car. And I'm completely content with the stock audio system thank you very much :iono:

carbonBLUE 03-09-2012 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by stlgrym3 (Post 152973)
why Toyota name them Scion here in the US? such a turn off. i want originality, i want tradition, Scion brand has neither, it reeks cheap teenager first car with loud audio system to me.
Scion is toyota either way, the bond between a person and the brand they follow is like a relationship, if they dont keep changing we will get bored with them, and if our pockets go empty they will leave us ahahah

scion still has toyota's reliability thats whats important

edit: and scion is about as original as it gets

Stryker Trailwood 03-10-2012 01:23 AM
IMO, everyone who hates that the US is getting a Scion FR-S and isn't getting it because of a badge, it is great for the rest who only care that it is enjoyable to drive/own and couldn't care less what small plastic badge a car has and what other people supposedly think about it.
More for those people.

blur 03-10-2012 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 150318)
Gorgeous pics....And 1180kg...:thumbup:
A couple months ago, we were arguing the weight for the stock FR-S from the caged Nur 86 weight...

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti (Post 64327)
1100kg (2400lbs roughly) is gutted and caged. Factory then should be around 2800lbs, if they keep it basic like they said they were and not add like 10 speaker stereo system or something like that.
I just have to say I TOLD YOU SO... by so I mean that this car would be around 2600 lbs. hah!

Gadflyii 03-10-2012 03:37 PM
US curb weight will be 2750lbs. That is my guess and I am sticking to it :)

Esoteric 03-10-2012 06:33 PM
White baby...

Just like an M3 or a Honda Type R... white looks best when you tasteful mod the car and brings great attention to the rest of the details like wheels, tint, headlights, etc...

Hope ours comes in as ordered *fingers crossed* :coolpics:

tripjammer 03-12-2012 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Esoteric (Post 153494)
White baby...

Just like an M3 or a Honda Type R... white looks best when you tasteful mod the car and brings great attention to the rest of the details like wheels, tint, headlights, etc...

Hope ours comes in as ordered *fingers crossed* :coolpics:
Agreed. I had to look at all the pics again and white is one of the best colors. All Japanese cars look good in white.

zAnSh1n 03-12-2012 07:16 PM
too bad these only come in pearl white :|

Swiss Driver 03-15-2012 09:52 PM
Yesterday I was in Geneva.

I am a little disappointed because the black and the blue one aren't there anymore.

The curb weight of the orange one is 1239 kg (it's with 90% fuel and 75 kg driver).
And the car is nearly fully equipped.

Base price for Switzerland is CHF 41.600 (quite high).


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