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Brzetto 04-27-2013 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by frosty86 (Post 894765)

I was kidding about the Dalton thing but I stand by expect the unexpected. That's the only way to stay on top is to expect even a pos car to haul ass once the owner think his position is being threatened.

Brzetto 04-27-2013 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by shiumai (Post 895476)
yeah, and 60-0 in .03 seconds when some idiot pulls out from a side road.


Don't you mean 60-dead in .01 seconds?

radroach 04-27-2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Splat (Post 895907)
oh Really ?
Where or what is your proof? how much will it PULL??? got any facts to show, or share?

WHHERHEHR IS YOUR PROOF NOWARHH


My friend's fr-s has e85, intake, and exhaust mods. Car rolls with much more torque, better sound, and available power. Just my thoughts.

shiumai 04-27-2013 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Connoisseur (Post 896022)
Don't you mean 60-dead in .01 seconds?

yup - that'd be the expected side effect.

Brzetto 04-27-2013 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shiumai (Post 896076)
yup - that'd be the expected side effect.


I don't know why but a lot of sport bike riders like playing vehicular Russian roulette.

Brzetto 04-27-2013 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJCarbine (Post 894991)
A Grand Am from anywhere within the last decade (or two) can come with a 3.1L V6 with oodles more torque than you. They have plenty of torque to keep up/pull away from an FRS at anything below double the speed limit

If he was an enthusiast, he might even swap in the GM L67 supercharged 3.8L V6 from other cars that share the same chassis.

Even in a heavy car like that they run high 14's with nothing done to them, and when you start to do pulley swap/supporting mods they can get into the 13's


The OP said Grand Prix not Grand Am. The Grand Prix was like 3500 lbs, the Grand Am was about 3100. I own a 2000 Grand Am, it does have plenty of torque, it's also a 3 or 4 speed automatic which automatically disqualifies any coolness. Although when I changed the air filer from stock to a K&N, engine response vastly improved and it accelerated like a new car.

whataboutbob 04-27-2013 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandy (Post 895418)
... My car is treated like a queen on the road and a slut while autoxing...

^^^ Preach on brotha. :word:

Liquidsnake 04-28-2013 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shawnperolis (Post 894583)
I get smoked by minivans and shit, not a big deal.

Lol. I don't race anyone.

But man is this car beautiful.

tennisfreak 04-28-2013 02:14 AM

I dunno I dont care if the car is 1/4 or 0-60 fast too much. The torque dip gone would be nice. Catback exhaust, intake, and an e85 tune are all I have planned.

I already have the exhaust and intake and that actually made a pretty decent improvement. Once I get the tune I figure I can get close to 200whp or 235-240 at the crank. (I might need a down pipe, not sure, but I really dont want to do the headers as it seems like a PITA to do).

Dezoris 04-28-2013 03:20 AM

I don't play around anymore. Got smoked by stangs, vettes, Caravans, RAV4.
Now I have the last laugh.

Installed this, running 5PSI, never in my life have I been thrown back in the seat so hard.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-El...0cd231&vxp=mtr

Don't know how much longer the clutch will hold, or axles. I had a buddy who races garbage trucks hop in and do a butt dyno and he said it was absolutely stunning.
Don't deny yourself and let the haters tell you that you have the wrong car. You want to run 9s all day? Maybe 8.5s? Do yourself a favor, you have earned it.

frosty86 04-28-2013 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 896459)
I don't play around anymore. Got smoked by stangs, vettes, Caravans, RAV4.
Now I have the last laugh.

Installed this, running 5PSI, never in my life have I been thrown back in the seat so hard.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-El...0cd231&vxp=mtr

Don't know how much longer the clutch will hold, or axles. I had a buddy who races garbage trucks hop in and do a butt dyno and he said it was absolutely stunning.
Don't deny yourself and let the haters tell you that you have the wrong car. You want to run 9s all day? Maybe 8.5s? Do yourself a favor, you have earned it.

Do you have any official dyno data to back up your claim? I've read articles that these electric superchargers were just placebo tools or straight up scam.

sierra 04-28-2013 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 896459)
I don't play around anymore. Got smoked by stangs, vettes, Caravans, RAV4.
Now I have the last laugh.

Installed this, running 5PSI, never in my life have I been thrown back in the seat so hard.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-El...0cd231&vxp=mtr

Don't know how much longer the clutch will hold, or axles. I had a buddy who races garbage trucks hop in and do a butt dyno and he said it was absolutely stunning.
Don't deny yourself and let the haters tell you that you have the wrong car. You want to run 9s all day? Maybe 8.5s? Do yourself a favor, you have earned it.

Surely it's April 1st?
Nope, you can't be serious?

Liquidsnake 04-28-2013 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 896459)
I don't play around anymore. Got smoked by stangs, vettes, Caravans, RAV4.
Now I have the last laugh.

Installed this, running 5PSI, never in my life have I been thrown back in the seat so hard.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-El...0cd231&vxp=mtr

Don't know how much longer the clutch will hold, or axles. I had a buddy who races garbage trucks hop in and do a butt dyno and he said it was absolutely stunning.
Don't deny yourself and let the haters tell you that you have the wrong car. You want to run 9s all day? Maybe 8.5s? Do yourself a favor, you have earned it.


Dude tell me more. Is this for real?

Accurate Race Shop 04-28-2013 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 896459)
I don't play around anymore. Got smoked by stangs, vettes, Caravans, RAV4.
Now I have the last laugh.

Installed this, running 5PSI, never in my life have I been thrown back in the seat so hard.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-El...0cd231&vxp=mtr

Don't know how much longer the clutch will hold, or axles. I had a buddy who races garbage trucks hop in and do a butt dyno and he said it was absolutely stunning.
Don't deny yourself and let the haters tell you that you have the wrong car. You want to run 9s all day? Maybe 8.5s? Do yourself a favor, you have earned it.

I think I just peed a little!

Dezoris 04-28-2013 05:02 AM

Its a joke please no one buy it.

continuecrushing 04-28-2013 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 896459)
I don't play around anymore. Got smoked by stangs, vettes, Caravans, RAV4.
Now I have the last laugh.

Installed this, running 5PSI, never in my life have I been thrown back in the seat so hard.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-El...0cd231&vxp=mtr

Don't know how much longer the clutch will hold, or axles. I had a buddy who races garbage trucks hop in and do a butt dyno and he said it was absolutely stunning.
Don't deny yourself and let the haters tell you that you have the wrong car. You want to run 9s all day? Maybe 8.5s? Do yourself a favor, you have earned it.


Dang, what would installing 2 do!!!! Bugatti territory!!!

DJCarbine 04-28-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Connoisseur (Post 896105)
The OP said Grand Prix not Grand Am. The Grand Prix was like 3500 lbs, the Grand Am was about 3100. I own a 2000 Grand Am, it does have plenty of torque, it's also a 3 or 4 speed automatic which automatically disqualifies any coolness. Although when I changed the air filer from stock to a K&N, engine response vastly improved and it accelerated like a new car.

I already stated that I misread his encounter in a previous post

FRiSson 04-28-2013 11:03 AM

Ever see those electric ebay superchargers tested? Hilarious.

zaptorque 04-28-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by njccmd2002 (Post 895044)
Please dont street race, or post on public forums. All your doing is calling the cops attention to our cars and the forum.

LOL

zaptorque 04-28-2013 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 896459)
I don't play around anymore. Got smoked by stangs, vettes, Caravans, RAV4.
Now I have the last laugh.

Installed this, running 5PSI, never in my life have I been thrown back in the seat so hard.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-El...0cd231&vxp=mtr

Don't know how much longer the clutch will hold, or axles. I had a buddy who races garbage trucks hop in and do a butt dyno and he said it was absolutely stunning.
Don't deny yourself and let the haters tell you that you have the wrong car. You want to run 9s all day? Maybe 8.5s? Do yourself a favor, you have earned it.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/87e51daba...nkx8o1_500.jpg

Brzetto 04-28-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DJCarbine (Post 896764)
I already stated that I misread his encounter in a previous post


Fair enough.

Allch Chcar 04-28-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BlessedFRS (Post 895248)
After he beat me he slammed on breaks and turned into his driveway 50 yards further up the road laughing........

He was being an ass. Forget about it. People do that crap all the time. Don't blame the car though, it's more about timing. I used to drive a Ford Ranger with the 2.3L Lima on the many 2 lane roads we have out here. It was far more underpowered but I could pass most everyone if I got the timing right. And yes being sneaky helps.

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Originally Posted by frosty86 (Post 896497)
Do you have any official dyno data to back up your claim? I've read articles that these electric superchargers were just placebo tools or straight up scam.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sierra (Post 896527)
Surely it's April 1st?
Nope, you can't be serious?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquidsnake (Post 896542)
Dude tell me more. Is this for real?

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Originally Posted by jasper (Post 896557)
I think I just peed a little!

HAhAHAHAHAHAAH! :lol: THE ELECTRIC SUPERCHARGER STRIKES AGAIN!

Ponwh 04-29-2013 05:52 AM

put a 2j in it, problem solved

Mikem53 04-29-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Logical (Post 895139)
The bad thing about a turbo is you have to wait for your boost. Like I said, just get the Vortech Supercharger and you won't be sorry. It's the best investment you can make on your FR-S.

The best investment would be attending a performance driving school and learning to use what you have..
Using a properly sized turbo or variable vane type will give you plenty of boost down low too..

Nezz 04-29-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikem53 (Post 898448)
The best investment would be attending a performance driving school and learning to use what you have..
Using a properly sized turbo or variable vane type will give you plenty of boost down low too..

"You have to wait for your boost", the Superpeople say, then the magic "You have to wait for a certain RPM!", like the centrifugal supercharger is any different...

Also, to the OP; Don't lump me in with you. "I want more power! I'm a man! Suuuuue me because I'm compensating!" I love low powered cars. Know why? They're fun. Driving slow cars fast is much more fun than driving fast cars slow.

... also, seriously, learn to launch. 4,000 RPM, no traction control, drop the clutch. Don't slip it, dump it. Sticky tyres wouldn't hurt. Be aware this only works so many times before things go bang and make loud clattering noises.

And if you have an A/T? Yeah, you're not going to be able to launch that hard no matter what.

(Personally, I recommend scratching your itches where you're not going to hit some ape in a minivan going through a red, but whatever.)

Timmy_Jones 04-29-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BlessedFRS (Post 894565)
I was on a back highway road today and came up on an old Grand Prix going 45 in a 55. We approached a stopped light, so casually got in the left lane to go around this person who didn't observe the speed limit. The car was dilapidated and this douche saw my car and took the opportunity to floor it and try to give me a run for my money, needless to say, I wasn't prepared and his POS stayed half a car length in front of me the whole 100 yards until the lane ended. I was frustrated!!!!!!! Why would you drive like a grandma to then try and prove a point, just the price you pay to drive such a nice car........

You do realize that the 97-03 Grand Prix was actually pretty stout (from the factory, in its time). With a pulley swap, exhaust mods, and a mail order PCM (Less than $400) these guys will run mid 13s and make 300+ ft/lbs of torque. Intercooler and a smaller pulley you are talking 12s.

You would annihilate that GP in a corner, but again, they can be made pretty quick, for cheap.

Unless it was older than a 97, not sure what to tell you.

bdub85 04-29-2013 09:20 AM

I need some more high-end torque!

NotSoJDM 04-29-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Logical (Post 895279)
I was being sarcastic. :lol: You do realize the difference between a turbocharger and a supercharger right? You don't get any boost until a certain RPM has been reached in a turbocharger. In a supercharger you are getting boost as soon as the gas is engaged. Sure a turbo has more PSI, as I'm only pushing around 3 PSI. But I have the power as soon as I need it, instead of waiting for the lag of a turbo.

Clearly you don't understand how turbo/sc work. Your welcome to PM me if you'd like an explanation.

gily25 04-29-2013 01:36 PM

Honestly why care? They drive a junky grand prix...

polarstorm 04-29-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nezz (Post 898462)
(Personally, I recommend scratching your itches where you're not going to hit some ape in a minivan going through a red, but whatever.)

Funniest thing I've heard in a while.

HunterGreene 04-29-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marchy (Post 899048)
you came from an rx8, you should be used to no torque :lol:

To be fair, the rotaries make a decent, even torque curve...unlike our cars. :bonk:

HunterGreene 04-29-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marchy (Post 899121)
a turbo rotary sure ... the na's found in rx-8 while even, i wouldn't call it decent ;)

I've always enjoyed it when I drove my dad's RX-8...

Tainen 04-29-2013 02:56 PM

You probably have an auto, too? Not saying that's a bad choice, but it also hurts the 0-60 time... you stated your goals are to look cool and be economical. If you properly learn how to launch this car (with a manual) it can be decently quick- faster than most cars out there, besides uprated sports models, if you do your job right, but the street is really not the place for that kind of behavior. With stock tires, you can easily peel out and get a ticket or just wear your tires out quickly with not much to show for it. If you want to have good straightline speed, add boost, or trade your car in on something like an used mustang GT or something.

Sonolin 04-29-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tainen (Post 899160)
You probably have an auto, too? Not saying that's a bad choice, but it also hurts the 0-60 time... you stated your goals are to look cool and be economical. If you properly learn how to launch this car (with a manual) it can be decently quick- faster than most cars out there, besides uprated sports models, if you do your job right, but the street is really not the place for that kind of behavior. With stock tires, you can easily peel out and get a ticket or just wear your tires out quickly with not much to show for it. If you want to have good straightline speed, add boost, or trade your car in on something like an used mustang GT or something.

Amen.

I had an auto and the m/t is much better for street racing.

(Sarcastic, I never street race this car... Just like to driver her hard!)

tennisfreak 04-29-2013 03:06 PM

While its fun keeping her up in the rev range and going fast I feel more compelled to take her on the back roads in my area and try to drift her around corners. Turning on sport mode lets me have enough fun to raise my hairs without letting me kill myself (or damage my baby) :)

LeeMaster 04-29-2013 03:10 PM

You know what's more embarrassing? Beating a piece of shit Grand Am and getting pulled over by an undercover cop and being pointed at and getting laughed at as he drives away with not even a slap on his wrists.

jstn 04-29-2013 03:18 PM

Who gives a shit if some idiot wants to flex his car-penis at a stop light? Just let 'em go.


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