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Guff 01-12-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SHINCHU86 (Post 113060)
ASPHAULT MANUAL! :thumbup: signed up around noon on my lunch break.

and yes, it says in the small print your choice is FINAL!
the car is built to YOUR specs, hence FIRST 86. you get it before they gon on sale! there arent any others on the lot!

Hmmm, didn't see the Final part, but you're right.

Oh well, it's ok, just pick the color you want!

devinclfalcons 01-12-2012 09:25 PM

So has anyone been selected yet?

keiri 01-12-2012 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by devinclfalcons (Post 113096)
So has anyone been selected yet?

We won't hear about any selections until tomorrow at noon at the earliest. Realistically, I see us hearing selections on Saturday.

bambbrose 01-12-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by keiri (Post 113120)
We won't hear about any selections until tomorrow at noon at the earliest. Realistically, I see us hearing selections on Saturday.


The website says winners will be notified within 24 hours.

devinclfalcons 01-12-2012 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bambbrose (Post 113127)
The website says winners will be notified within 24 hours.

Yep. And the window to sign up closed about an hour ago.

miata 01-12-2012 10:49 PM

The site is still taking sign up's. So much for 8 hours and 6 minutes...

vaporiz 01-12-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by miata (Post 113166)
The site is still taking sign up's. So much for 8 hours and 6 minutes...


yeah wtf...

bambbrose 01-12-2012 11:13 PM

Even though it is still accepting, I'm guessing they cut it off at 8:06.

Remember, it is in their best interest to collect as much data as possible, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was left this way for a while.

nate89 01-12-2012 11:14 PM

I signed up for a white w/manual. My *cough*Dad*cough* signed up for a Black w/manual.

ACHlLLES 01-12-2012 11:15 PM

One who thought of the promotion clearly didn't think about after work hours.

keiri 01-12-2012 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bambbrose (Post 113127)
The website says winners will be notified within 24 hours.

True.

bambbrose 01-12-2012 11:45 PM

I just noticed that even though the submission is still open, the opening phrase has changed.

If you read the fine print, it says basically that if the first 86 selected back out, that alternates will be chosen.

The opening statement used to mention that it opened at 9 AM PST, and closed 8 hours and 6 minutes later.

Now, it doesn't mention any time, and just says that you can submit for your chance to win.

If you read between the lines, it is staying open, just in case everybody else backed out, and then you could be selected, as per the terms and conditions.

The odds of winning this late in the game however are pretty slim, unless of course a dealer in your area was allocated 1 unit, and nobody miraculously signed up in that area yet.

ruskymx 01-13-2012 12:01 AM

I was going to sign up but for some reason I actually clicked on the terms & conditions to read them :bonk:, (not sure why, first time I did that for anything I think), and I am not eligible since I work at a Toyota/Scion dealer so even if I did get picked, I would have to forfeit my position. :cry:

I selected Hot Lava/Manual and that's what I will buy eventually.

Word through the Toyota "grape vine" is that the retail date is 6/1/12. This info is from people from Toyota doing training at my dealership this past Tuesday. If this is true, I would expect the "First 86" to see their cars in mid-May.

Good luck to all those that entered and hopefully the people that are selected are members of this forum that are passionate about this car and not some random schmuck (no offense to random schmuck, but...) who saw a Facebook post or something and signed up.

I'm going to see what I can find out for you guys from the dealer side of things for this. So far there hasn't been any info given to us yet, but as things move along, that may change.

Ruskymx

hostkiller 01-13-2012 12:04 AM

In for a white manual!

Korupt56 01-13-2012 12:05 AM

agreed! white in manual! white on black rims look sexy!

switchlanez 01-13-2012 02:38 AM

I posted this theory in my boycott thread yesterday which may bring consolation for all who signed up but don't end up winning.

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Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 112130)
First 86 will provide greater resolution as to which dealerships within each region should get X cars with Y colors and Z configurations. It's a supplement to any dealership waiting lists already going on (but not all dealerships do waiting lists). This supplemental info is critical as stock coming from Japan will be extremely limited.

So if First 86 asks you to specify your color, transmission, etc., you can almost expect one to be delivered to a dealership by your home.


The Robot Cow 01-13-2012 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ruskymx (Post 113202)
I was going to sign up but for some reason I actually clicked on the terms & conditions to read them :bonk:, (not sure why, first time I did that for anything I think), and I am not eligible since I work at a Toyota/Scion dealer so even if I did get picked, I would have to forfeit my position. :cry:

I selected Hot Lava/Manual and that's what I will buy eventually.

Word through the Toyota "grape vine" is that the retail date is 6/1/12. This info is from people from Toyota doing training at my dealership this past Tuesday. If this is true, I would expect the "First 86" to see their cars in mid-May.

Good luck to all those that entered and hopefully the people that are selected are members of this forum that are passionate about this car and not some random schmuck (no offense to random schmuck, but...) who saw a Facebook post or something and signed up.

I'm going to see what I can find out for you guys from the dealer side of things for this. So far there hasn't been any info given to us yet, but as things move along, that may change.

Ruskymx

Sweet!

2fast4you 01-13-2012 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 113313)
I posted this theory in my boycott thread yesterday which may bring consolation for all who signed up but don't end up winning.


"First 86 will provide greater resolution as to which dealerships within each region should get X cars with Y colors and Z configurations. It's a supplement to any dealership waiting lists already going on (but not all dealerships do waiting lists). This supplemental info is critical as stock coming from Japan will be extremely limited.

So if First 86 asks you to specify your color, transmission, etc., you can almost expect one to be delivered to a dealership by your home."

Bingo. My dealership hasn't started a waiting list... yet.

Rabble 01-13-2012 11:20 AM

Just got an email from scion telling me that I'm on the wait list, but not yet one of the first 86. Says they've yet to pick them.

Well at least I'm on the wait list.

Dave-ROR 01-13-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rabble (Post 113480)
Just got an email from scion telling me that I'm on the wait list, but not yet one of the first 86. Says they've yet to pick them.

Well at least I'm on the wait list.

They've picked them. The waitlist = if someone doesn't drop a deposit within 96 hours, someone else gets the spot.

Rabble 01-13-2012 11:25 AM

Lame...

I guess that just gives me more time to save.

texas2888 01-23-2012 11:44 PM

First 86
 
I can tell everyone here that, YES, they have selected the First 86. I know, because I'm one of the lucky one's!!! I've already been to the dealership and gave them my deposit. I chose Asphalt with the manual transmission (see below). I can't wait to get it. Surprisingly, even the dealership doesn't have any information on the delivery date or cost though. Hell, they barely even knew anything about the whole promotion!!!

I've read about the car for almost a year but just luckily ran across the promotion the day that it took place. I was on a Tundra forum and saw a banner on that site. SO, I obviously entered and got selected!

http://image96.webshots.com/96/3/89/...2yeQoIz_ph.jpg

DrunkenMime 01-24-2012 06:54 PM

Thanks to all who signed up for helping jack up the price of the car...

nate89 01-24-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkenMime (Post 120741)
Thanks to all who signed up for helping jack up the price of the car...

:dnftt:

How do you know that Toyota/Scion will now jack the price up? Perhaps now that they know there is a high demand, they can cut cost since volume sales will be high. Toyota knows that if they price the car too high they will lose customers to their competitors (Honda, Nissan, Mazda). People who think this will affect pricing are ignorant.

Argent6978 01-24-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkenMime (Post 120741)
Thanks to all who signed up for helping jack up the price of the car...

What? Did they announce the price of the car?

DrunkenMime 01-24-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nate89 (Post 120756)
:dnftt:

How do you know that Toyota/Scion will now jack the price up? Perhaps now that they know there is a high demand, they can cut cost since volume sales will be high. Toyota knows that if they price the car too high they will lose customers to their competitors (Honda, Nissan, Mazda). People who think this will affect pricing are ignorant.

Economics 101: Demand and Price are directly related...as demand goes up, so does the price...

Scion is obviously testing the water to see how much money they can squeeze out of the potential buyers for this car. It was SUPPOSED to be an affordable entry level sports car. If this was not their motivation for this exercise, they would already have a price set. Everyone thinks they're "winning an opportunity to buy the car" when in actuality, Scion is dangling this carrot in front of the buying public too see how many hoops we'll all jump through to buy it, then adjust the price accordingly...I wouldn't be surprised to see this car approach $26-27k when all is said and done...why would anyone want to "win a chance to buy a car"??? What a stupid idea unless you're buying a limited produced supercar like the GTR or LFA. but a Scion?? I know it's a rebadged Toyota but come on...this is ridiculous....I'll just wait a couple of years until all this bullshit is done and over with....then you'll be able to get a lease return or used one for less than $20k

Argent6978 01-24-2012 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkenMime (Post 120769)
Economics 101: Demand and Price are directly related...as demand goes up, so does the price...

Scion is obviously testing the water to see how much money they can squeeze out of the potential buyers for this car. It was SUPPOSED to be an affordable entry level sports car. If this was not their motivation for this exercise, they would already have a price set. Everyone thinks they're "winning an opportunity to buy the car" when in actuality, Scion is dangling this carrot in front of the buying public too see how many hoops we'll all jump through to buy it, then adjust the price accordingly...I wouldn't be surprised to see this car approach $26-27k when all is said and done...why would anyone want to "win a chance to buy a car"??? What a stupid idea unless you're buying a limited produced supercar like the GTR or LFA. but a Scion?? I know it's a rebadged Toyota but come on...this is ridiculous....I'll just wait a couple of years until all this bullshit is done and over with....then you'll be able to get a lease return or used one for less than $20k

Okay, you have fun with that. Bye bye now.

nate89 01-24-2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkenMime (Post 120769)
Economics 101: Demand and Price are directly related...as demand goes up, so does the price...

You forgot about supply...

DrunkenMime 01-25-2012 12:16 PM

ok so Toyota can build enough? what's your point??

kanundrum 01-25-2012 12:20 PM

It was stated before but scion pure pricing? hasnt changed in years why would it now. They will set a price according to market research if they are smart and just go from there.

suprachica79 01-25-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kanundrum (Post 121178)
It was stated before but scion pure pricing? hasnt changed in years why would it now. They will set a price according to market research if they are smart and just go from there.

That's not how pure pricing has been explained to us by people that work at Scion dealerships. Each Scion dealer can pick any price they want, the point of pure pricing is that whatever price they do end up advertising within their dealership is what they must charge every customer, without exception. Normally, prices end up evening out because dealerships compete for business, but if all the dealerships want to charge 5k above MSRP, they certainly can.

DMDZK 01-25-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by suprachica79 (Post 121206)
That's not how pure pricing has been explained to us by people that work at Scion dealerships. Each Scion dealer can pick any price they want, the point of pure pricing is that whatever price they do end up advertising within their dealership is what they must charge every customer, without exception. Normally, prices end up evening out because dealerships compete for business, but if all the dealerships want to charge 5k above MSRP, they certainly can.

This is an important detail. Pure pricing doesn't force dealers to charge MSRP. It forces them to charge the same, advertised price to all customers. They can change prices week to week if they wish to, so long as it is advertised (online and off).

Honestly, most Toyota dealers are not 100% Scion compliant. Most just don't do enough volume in scion sales to justify jumping through all those hoops. They can loose their Scion distribution/franchise if caught, but in 2 years at a Toyota dealer I've never once seen our store audited. Additionally at least 2 other stores in my area are not 100% compliant and, so far as I can tell, have never been spoken to about it.

kanundrum 01-25-2012 02:28 PM

Had no idea pure pricing meant otherwise. I thought pure pricing meant what ever is advertised on scion.com is what you'll pay at the dealerships in general. Dealers make the markups on accessories etc.


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