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Zaku 11-28-2011 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by subatoy (Post 81928)

Thanks Subatoy this looks great!

tranzformer 11-28-2011 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rideontwo (Post 81755)
Might have to wait it out till the STi or the "Tuned by STi" version comes out. I was totally diggin' the STi concept.

It is STI and ichi you are welcome. :happy0180:

Dave-ROR 11-29-2011 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by subatoy (Post 81916)

Perfect looking height IMO. As long as there is still enough stroke that's about what I'll want height wise

peazs 11-29-2011 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dilly-o (Post 81834)
so the only exterior differences are:
badges
headlights
front bumper
fender vent insert
chrome plate on the trunklid

2 thoughts:
they should have done more to differentiate the cars cosmetically
the toyota bumper is clearly better looking (and i am a subaru guy that really wants to get the subaru version)

2 more ext. differences spotted:
- Taillights on BRZ have red sides which I like more than the clear (but we all know that can be easily fixed)
- An article said the rear fender on BRZ flares out more. Can you guys see it?

Soravia 11-29-2011 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by willy213 (Post 81818)
I'm sure it has been said before but the front end looks very Mazda-ish. But I'm positive the STi version will make up for the front end.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...10-mazda-3.jpg

LOL, I'm sure we can swap those with new Genesis front end. That's the JDM/KDM spirit right there.

This car is so much like the 240SX/Silvia/180SX. I can't resist. :bow:

maximumunicorn 11-29-2011 12:15 AM

I actually think it looks pretty good. But like everyone else, I'll reserve final judgement until we see US production numbers and price (hoping we'll see enough here that it's not consistently gone). To me this looks like a $23,000 - $25,000 car. <-- Not based on any facts, just the plastic looking trim in a few places.

Awesome info though, I just keep refreshing the page!

Z_Rocks 11-29-2011 12:17 AM

Why all of a sudden all these manufactures start putting that silly smile on their cars now? The $hit started with Mazda, now on GC and BRZ.

Dave-ROR 11-29-2011 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by peazs (Post 81961)
2 more ext. differences spotted:
- Taillights on BRZ have red sides which I like more than the clear (but we all know that can be easily fixed)
- An article said the rear fender on BRZ flares out more. Can you guys see it?

Frs will have red sides too. Required by us law.

Sheet metal is the same.

peazs 11-29-2011 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 81973)
Frs will have red sides too. Required by us law.

Sheet metal is the same.

So no differences at the rear fenders then?

Does the BRZ have more of a frost at the lower 3rd brake light, or just the angle of the shot which shows it that way?

maximumunicorn 11-29-2011 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ahausheer (Post 81835)
AHHH....again with the stupid eco tires!!!

Yeah. On the plus side though, that gigantic picture makes it look like 225's wouldn't be entirely out of place on the stock wheels. The 215's are very slightly stretched.

Buggy51 11-29-2011 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_Rocks (Post 81972)
Why all of a sudden all these manufactures start putting that silly smile on their cars now? The $hit started with Mazda, now on GC and BRZ.

be happy! or something...

but yeah, I'm looking at the price between impreza and WRX. Don't see any reason why it should be over or anywhere close to the WRX's price :/

blur 11-29-2011 01:00 AM

I hope we see some leather in this one!

Slide 11-29-2011 01:45 AM

Front end = http://www.peugeot.com.au/media/deli...989-ca04a1.jpg!!!!!

WhiteGDB 11-29-2011 01:51 AM

Wow, I'm surprised no one has mention the exhaust tips not sticking out pass the diffuser like the Toyota. Much cleaner IMO.

WhiteGDB 11-29-2011 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dilly-o (Post 81834)
so the only exterior differences are:
badges
headlights
front bumper
fender vent insert
chrome plate on the trunklid

2 thoughts:
they should have done more to differentiate the cars cosmetically
the toyota bumper is clearly better looking (and i am a subaru guy that really wants to get the subaru version)

I think that's just a reflection on the trunk and not a chrome plate.

Kazama 11-29-2011 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dilly-o (Post 81834)
so the only exterior differences are:
badges
headlights
front bumper
fender vent insert
chrome plate on the trunklid

2 thoughts:
they should have done more to differentiate the cars cosmetically
the toyota bumper is clearly better looking (and i am a subaru guy that really wants to get the subaru version)

#looks like diffrent exhaust tips
#the backing light whit the red triangle(between the exhaust tips) looks nicer whit not the bright red and whit like the 86.
#more red in the taillight coners

DA1 11-29-2011 02:23 AM

Vents & Badges
 
Must have the Subaru front guard vents in my Toyota 86
and maybe a GT86 badge.

BRZC 11-29-2011 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteGDB (Post 82057)
Wow, I'm surprised no one has mention the exhaust tips not sticking out pass the diffuser like the Toyota. Much cleaner IMO.

Noticed it too, didn't say anything.

But it does look better. imo

armythug 11-29-2011 03:39 AM

Its going to be really interesting when we see this car with a body kit and a big spoiler. It will look a lot better. Probably just as good as that blue 86 we have seen. :happy0180:

Didierm 11-29-2011 05:44 AM

The GT86 looks more aggressive especially in the brochure pics but the road test pics, aahhh not as aggressive and slightly cheaper looking but the BRZ has a much cleaner and premium presence so it is really a hard choice. Biggest disappointment for me is the STI concepts rear light are missing off the production model but I think I may still choose BRZ. Firstly the dealer network I like much better than Toyota and secondly it will be placed below WRX pricing, about R50 000 less for South Africans. So it's not too bad

fernan2 11-29-2011 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by subatoy (Post 81928)

Can you chop the front Plastic bar tO white?

Levi 11-29-2011 06:09 AM

Anyway, the front plastic will not be seen. There is the licence plate going on. I'll just paint the plastic gloss black.
The pic of this BRZ is US version. It has amber side markers on the front bumper. In EU they would be white. It also has a red reflector on the side of the rear taillight. In EU we won't get this. And it has no rear foglight.
The exhaust tips look smaller. Looks like they have no Toyota tips on. I would say this is the base model which is equivalent to high spec Toyota. More will only be options.

Levi 11-29-2011 06:16 AM

Can anybody yet photoshop red or smoked taillights?

ZetaVI 11-29-2011 06:24 AM

Before with the leak and the STI version I said it wasn't aggressive enough. Now it is really growing on me. If i want aggressive, GT86. If i want a sleek and less aggressive car, BRZ.

McCoder 11-29-2011 06:28 AM

I actually like the less angular front of the BRZ better, but the exhaust on the GT86 fits the diffuser better :-s

Didierm 11-29-2011 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Levi (Post 82221)
Can anybody yet photoshop red or smoked taillights?

Smoked and redded!!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7025/6...5010da44_b.jpg

tripjammer 11-29-2011 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kayen (Post 81842)

I like that combo...just enough red...not to much...notice black leather with red stitching and black alcantra....perfect!

Works with all the exterior colors.

I also like the red seats but not the red steering wheel.

tripjammer 11-29-2011 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Zgrinch (Post 81847)
That is going to be a great color combo on the Dark Grey Metallic version

Hold up bro! That's my color combo! Hehe!

But yeah it will even on the black color too...

Levi 11-29-2011 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Didierm (Post 82239)


Thanks!

Redded look way better. It is a MUST.

Didierm 11-29-2011 07:43 AM

Guys this is what the BRZ was suppost to look like, they were suppose to leave the STI concepts taillights on the car.

Here is my photochopped version

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6...f85aa6e0_b.jpg

YeloFva 11-29-2011 07:43 AM

Can someone make a side-by-side photo? The GT86 & BRZ both look the same to me :iono:

Didierm 11-29-2011 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by YeloFva (Post 82252)
Can someone make a side-by-side photo? The GT86 & BRZ both look the same to me :iono:

Not exact angle but you can compare.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6...cd2a1592_b.jpg

Snoopyalien24 11-29-2011 08:24 AM

Oh I did not see this thread yesterday, and I was bored not having much to photoshop. Im not gonna bother today since real pics are going to be debuted today so whatever, we shall see. IMHO I really like the GT86 front, but I dont dislike the BRZ.

sirus 11-29-2011 08:26 AM

The headlights look to be a different shape... BRZ has a bulge under the driving light... So no interchanging bumpers. 86 ftw! :)

PAImportTuner 11-29-2011 08:32 AM

I said they would be the same with minimal differences. I said the Subaru weight was 2670- 2740# depending on transmission and hitting over 3000# with 2 normal sized passengers, power was 200 and 154. I said the side scuttles were GM like design. I don't see why anyone would be surprised either way. If you're not happy be patient for STI variant to be released. As someone said recently, Toyota is not going cater to the power mongers only to the ricers.(I added the ricer part)

Now about the looks, the BRZ just overall looks and flows better. The GT86 is a hot mess rolled into one. When you look at both in person, you'll see the busy-ness of the GT86, but for the time being put both sets of pics together. BRZs side profile flows into the lower front fascia, wingless, the front fascia lower lip and side grill profile(lower lip area) are of european design.

I think I'm one of the very few here who likes the flat black front bar/grill section, I think it's one of the best designed fascia that's used currently in the industry(definately less obtrusive than Mazda or Hyundai). It'll allow future addition of a FMIC.

Overall it's smoother and mature looking. Seperates it from the tuner look to more of a grand tourer.

old greg 11-29-2011 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Didierm (Post 82251)
Guys this is what the BRZ was suppost to look like, they were suppose to leave the STI concepts taillights on the car.

Here is my photochopped version

That looks a million times better, and it makes me sad. :cry:

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Originally Posted by sirus (Post 82276)
The headlights look to be a different shape... BRZ has a bulge under the driving light... So no interchanging bumpers. 86 ftw! :)

I'm not seeing the difference. :iono:

Didierm 11-29-2011 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24 (Post 82275)
Oh I did not see this thread yesterday, and I was bored not having much to photoshop. Im not gonna bother today since real pics are going to be debuted today so whatever, we shall see. IMHO I really like the GT86 front, but I dont dislike the BRZ.

I took over just for today while you were away ;)

Didierm 11-29-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PAImportTuner (Post 82280)
I said they would be the same with minimal differences. I said the Subaru weight was 2670- 2740# depending on transmission and hitting over 3000# with 2 normal sized passengers, power was 200 and 154. I said the side scuttles were GM like design. I don't see why anyone would be surprised either way. If you're not happy be patient for STI variant to be released. As someone said recently, Toyota is not going cater to the power mongers only to the ricers.(I added the ricer part)

Now about the looks, the BRZ just overall looks and flows better. The GT86 is a hot mess rolled into one. When you look at both in person, you'll see the busy-ness of the GT86, but for the time being put both sets of pics together. BRZs side profile flows into the lower front fascia, wingless, the front fascia lower lip and side grill profile(lower lip area) are of european design.

I think I'm one of the very few here who likes the flat black front bar/grill section, I think it's one of the best designed fascia that's used currently in the industry(definately less obtrusive than Mazda or Hyundai). It'll allow future addition of a FMIC.

Overall it's smoother and mature looking. Seperates it from the tuner look to more of a grand tourer.

TOTALLY AGREED


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