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Buggy51 11-26-2011 05:56 PM

hmmm that's interesting. I suppose you can get a more interesting look but for someone like me that's looking more at the FR-S/BRZ as a DD ... does it really matter for tire size?

Longhorn248 11-26-2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buggy51 (Post 79646)
hmmm that's interesting. I suppose you can get a more interesting look but for someone like me that's looking more at the FR-S/BRZ as a DD ... does it really matter for tire size?

As a daily driver there isn't going to be any difference between a set of 16's or 17's other than the way they look

Buggy51 11-26-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 79648)
As a daily driver there isn't going to be any difference between a set of 16's or 17's other than the way they look

Hmmm well guess tire size is irrelevant for me lol. I'm guessing a set of 16" might be cheaper than a set of 17" as well?

And to stay on topic.... uhm... erm... well don't think that's possible on this forum.

But for the height number, maybe its referring to the prototype version?

Aki 11-26-2011 06:18 PM

My guess is that this pic is real.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 79629)
Yeah, i understand why you would think its a real photo. But its not. The image looks like studio lighting, but for Road and Track to have studio shots before the reveal in 3 days before anyone else is highly unlikely.

You gotta understand how print publications work, and press shots work.

Magazines usually require about a month lead time typically from final copy to mass printing. Which means they got these images at least a month or two prior. Studio shots of production cars can be taken months before an official unveiling. Renderings are often used along with studio photos for official photos.

It's very typical for print magazines get images of the cars a month or two they're unveiled. This is standard practice so that the issue that goes on newsstands coincides with the car shows/press unveilings. If say Car & Driver got the official images of the BRZ at the Tokyo Motor show, that'd take an additional 1-2 months to publish that in a magazine, and by then it'd be too late. Print is a totally different animal than online. They don't take press assets then turn them around in a couple days or a week. They get assets, editor writes it, copy editor looks at it, layout gets set (along with pagination), final proof, then it goes to the printer. It's a lengthy process, which is why mags get assets way ahead of time.

If this R&T issue was supposed to hit newstands at or around the time of Tokyo Auto show, then this pic is likely legit, whether it's a studio or rendering.

Velvet_Kevorkian 11-26-2011 06:27 PM

If its safe to assume that we'll see 215/45R17 tires, then who wants to guess what the low spec will have? 215/60R16? I can see Michelin...Primacy HP's on that photo leak? Guess my room for concern would be which tire/size will carry a better (read: longer) mileage warranty. I'm sure the HP's will be fine as an OEM, but 45k miles leaves much to be desired on my behalf.

poormans_LFA 11-26-2011 06:30 PM

looks good, and those aren't even the best photos! not really understanding the price differential, but I suppose there needs to be something that sets these two cars apart.

WingsofWar 11-26-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Aki (Post 79651)
My guess is that this pic is real.



You gotta understand how print publications work, and press shots work.

Magazines usually require about a month lead time typically from final copy to mass printing. Which means they got these images at least a month or two prior. Studio shots of production cars can be taken months before an official unveiling. Renderings are often used along with studio photos for official photos.

It's very typical for print magazines get images of the cars a month or two they're unveiled. This is standard practice so that the issue that goes on newsstands coincides with the car shows/press unveilings. If say Car & Driver got the official images of the BRZ at the Tokyo Motor show, that'd take an additional 1-2 months to publish that in a magazine, and by then it'd be too late. Print is a totally different animal than online. They don't take press assets then turn them around in a couple days or a week. They get assets, editor writes it, copy editor looks at it, layout gets set (along with pagination), final proof, then it goes to the printer. It's a lengthy process, which is why mags get assets way ahead of time.

If this R&T issue was supposed to hit newstands at or around the time of Tokyo Auto show, then this pic is likely legit, whether it's a studio or rendering.

im not saying that the article or picture isn't legit and fake...im sure its an official render...im saying that the white car used in the article is not an actual photo of the car. It shows only two views which are identical quarter shots of images we have seen before. The shots screams RENDER rather SLR.

Why not use a front view, or top view, or close in on the grill, or fender or brake set up.

If road and track was getting assets well before others, they would have been given more profound information, images, ect. Unfortunately they are in the same boat like everyone else, giving the same sorts of information and the same stock image that even iv been given nearly 2 months ago.

Iv worked with magazines before, and its VERY hard to get exclusive stuff, so we make due with what we have.

Spaceywilly 11-26-2011 06:58 PM

If R&T had the official images they probably would have official info as well. There's no specs in the article that haven't been unveiled already (and the height is flat out wrong). Makes me think the images are probably not the real deal.

iDriveFast 11-26-2011 06:58 PM

Looks good

Aki 11-26-2011 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WingsofWar (Post 79660)
If road and track was getting assets well before others, they would have been given more profound information, images, ect. Unfortunately they are in the same boat like everyone else, giving the same sorts of information and the same stock image that even iv been given nearly 2 months ago.

That's the thing, I don't think this is necessarily an exclusive to R&T. Since this issue is supposed to hit newstands when Tokyo Motor Show is already underway (read the blurb and it talks about TMS as already going on), it looks like the issue got out early, rather than Subaru giving them exclusivity.

poormans_LFA 11-26-2011 08:05 PM

these shots look so legit it's not even funny. this IS the real deal.

blofeld42 11-26-2011 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aki (Post 79651)
My guess is that this pic is real.

It was probably provided by Subaru to the major car mags as part of the publicity package. I doubt they had a physical, non-camo'd car in California for R&T to shoot at the press event a few months ago.

old greg 11-26-2011 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet_Kevorkian (Post 79652)
If its safe to assume that we'll see 215/45R17 tires, then who wants to guess what the low spec will have? 215/60R16?

Not very likely. If the 17's come with 215/45R17, then the 16's will either have 215/50R16 or 205/55R16.

poormans_LFA 11-26-2011 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blofeld42 (Post 79669)
It was probably provided by Subaru to the major car mags as part of the publicity package. I doubt they had a physical, non-camo'd car in California for R&T to shoot at the press event a few months ago.

disagree. it's all to a car manufactures benefit to have early press cars available for studio shoots to help generate exposure and interest in the product. small part of the marketing strategy.

Velvet_Kevorkian 11-26-2011 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by old greg (Post 79673)
Not very likely. If the 17's come with 215/45R17, then the 16's will either have 215/50R16 or 205/55R16.

D'oh! I meant to type 205/55 as its pretty commonplace:thanks:

Mino 11-26-2011 09:13 PM

I think there will b a 18" sport package or something well hoping :)

iff2mastamatt 11-26-2011 09:19 PM

If this is what the subie will look like, I might have to pass...

Buggy51 11-26-2011 09:27 PM

Well I still prefer the GT86's look, but if the Subie is cheaper... :p

Alfie 11-26-2011 09:38 PM

The article states it will be "upscale" comp. to the FR-S which =/= cheaper!

nixeighty6 11-26-2011 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Buggy51 (Post 79739)
Well I still prefer the GT86's look, but if the Subie is cheaper... :p

i was about to but on the gt86 part ... but put it into google and...

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au..._revealed.html

Alfie 11-26-2011 10:00 PM

Umm, the UK is a different market AND price point!
Closer to 30,000GBP is = to US$43,000!
They wouldn't even sell ONE over here! Not to mention the markup for Canada!

rideontwo 11-26-2011 10:06 PM

Not sure if this was posted before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPeHaDb36PM

ruskymx 11-26-2011 10:26 PM

http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/...usky/ft861.jpg

:confused0068::confused0068::confused0068::confuse d0068::confused0068:

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

bls 11-26-2011 10:51 PM

Hello to Everyone : I still want the FT86 and soon I hope Good Night Beverly

CyberFormula 11-26-2011 10:53 PM

Just saw the video...

I have decided, to wait on my purchase after viewing the video.:lol:

JoeJoseJoseph 11-27-2011 12:02 AM

Just saw the FT 86 video and this article in autoblog too!

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/26/e...ves-june-2012/

Marrk 11-27-2011 12:15 AM

^^This one says 50.6-in. height.

I guess that, in terms of actual facts about the car, we are still in never-never land until the production unit is released.

JoeJoseJoseph 11-27-2011 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Marrk (Post 79942)
^^This one says 50.6-in. height.

I guess that, in terms of actual facts about the car, we are still in never-never land until the production unit is released.


I hope its just for the European model, because of their pedestrian law constraints!!:mad0260:

subatoy 11-27-2011 12:52 AM

That car needs at least a 1.5" drop and that will mean scrapping all over the place! :mad0259:
That is the biggest wheel Gap I've ever seen.

PAImportTuner 11-27-2011 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rideontwo (Post 79787)
Not sure if this was posted before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPeHaDb36PM

Uh oh I don't think that was supposed to be shown yet. Lmao

subatoy 11-27-2011 01:04 AM

Tons of pics here:
http://autoc-one.jp/toyota/report-90...hoto/0075.html

Snoopyalien24 11-27-2011 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PAImportTuner (Post 80022)
Uh oh I don't think that was supposed to be shown yet. Lmao

We need to get all the links,, and put them in one thread, one post! Divide them by pictures and videos!

Holy crap that silver is awesome

Jah1mon 11-27-2011 01:42 AM

I really liking the car in white, blue is pretty sharp also.

subatoy 11-27-2011 02:01 AM

This picture on the first page of this thread is NOT a photshop.
If this were a photoshop it wouldn't have the massive wheel to fender gaps from the actual production GT86.

Giccin 11-27-2011 02:31 AM

Those interior shots are awesomeeeeeee~~~~ Lol

But I might wait and see (if they do make a hatch version) before I purchase. :>

bryan 11-27-2011 02:42 AM

This forum is amazingly awesome.

ccsophmore 11-27-2011 02:49 AM

From ToyotaEurope
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw6WnrqMDTw

poormans_LFA 11-27-2011 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccsophmore (Post 80108)

we're just gettin' slammed with the rrreeeeepost's tonight.

poormans_LFA 11-27-2011 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccsophmore (Post 80117)

rrreeepost:bonk: :thumbup:

tripjammer 11-27-2011 03:11 AM

No goosenecks the car has proper stuts for the trunk.

http://autoc-one.jp/toyota/report-90...hoto/0050.html


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