I don't think a track model would be considerably cheaper than a base model (which probably would already come standard with all those things).
Fact is, they could offer a standard model with delete options and have the same results and not have to sell you it any cheaper.

My idea of a track model FT is one without interior carpeting, ac delete, radio delete, cc delete. No sunroof. No CC. Manual only. Roll up windows. Maybe even steelies.

I think the standard model will come with the Advics brakes, so mechanically the only difference might be uprated springs and MAYBE a slight hp bump. So why not just get a standard model and let club racers worry about the track spec car, as it'd be ready for a roll cage, pay no extra for unused factory alloys etc.

this is what i'm going off of:

:iono: either way, the one i will buy is going to have at least a few amenities. i'll see what's offered at different prices, and go from there. i can deal a lot better with a stiff suspension than i can with no a/c, ha. and since i still plan on autoxing with the FT and running some track days, i'd like the sportier bits. i just don't need a full-on race car is all.


-Mike

so this thing will be making 170HP at the wheels roughly? miata-level HP with extra weight? lame

So this one will just come on and spout crap right away? Little common sense? LAME

Totally get where you are coming from. However pricing right now is pure speculation, but I am willing to bet that $27k is this car in it's highest trim level, loaded with options (if they are going to have many options that is). any other way and Toyota would have to be mad.

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Thats why i dont get why people are joshing me...1/2 lb? DONT EAT BREAKFAST haha, coffee and some water ur good to go.

Wow 1/2lb...omg its gonna be sooo much faster!

o well

If you take off a few punds here and there it really adds up. Before you know it youre down 100s of lbs.

my personal car went from 3230lb to 2910 lb just doing track prep and it didnt have any modern safety to begin with!

I think they know how to make their car lighter. Not to mention there are less failure points and malfunctions when you least expect it. If youre on teh track and youre cruise control screws up and keeps the throttle open or may you bump into it when youre in the heat of the moment. Boom car meet wall :)

lol good thing toyota is doin this :p

honestly the only things i need/want are: Heat, A/C, Power Windows/Locks/Steering, Radio/cd player

basically its like the genesis R-Spec, cept with FT-86

it would be lovely if they have provided a rollcage....

but i seriously doubt that would happen in a production toyota.

Instead of rollcage extra s-spots in the chassis to stiff up is much appreciated. Adding the rollcage is easy, adding s-spots are harder.

i see your point, but any driver worth his salt will immediately clutch in if the engine stays on-throttle. ;)

-Mike

Someone did call that there'd be alot of new people to the forum, given the forum's recognition on various automotive websites. Guess it just comes with the territory. :thumbdown:

:cry:

It was bound to happen. With increased traffic comes new members most of whom will become productive members of the community... BUT you'll also get a lot more trolls too. Ignore them and they'll go away.

It's funny that Honda has decided to go down the eco-green path performance be dammed when Toyota has started to back away from that thinking. Toyota realized that there needs to be a balance of performance and eco friendly offerings in your line-up or else you will not be able to grow your customer base. It will be interesting to see how this decision plays out for Honda over the next decade.

Hopefully the success of a lightweight RWD FT-86 Track model will spur more manufacturers to follow suit with their own offerings. Rumors are that Nissan is considering a new silvia and Mazda may revive the RX-7 so just the threat of the FT-86 is already having major repercussions.

It's like the 90's all over again and I love it.

I wonder if they'll delete the rear seats on the track version? Should shave a few pounds

I hope it has AC tho, even in frozen england its always handy to de-mist the windows faster.

zomg 2010+ is return of the late 80s early 90s cars ideas haha

ft-86
rumored new rx-7
rumored new silvia

just like the muscle car era americans who love muscle car wants to relive that years thus we have the camaro, challenger and ect retro look. for tuners we miss that light weight rwd years + the new looks are so ugly look at what happen to civic.

If this were a return to the 90's we'd have a new supra on the way, a REAL turbo RX-"7", a Mitsubishi GTO, a turbo version of the Z, an NSX and MR2.

Nay, this is a return to the 70's/80's baby, Yeah!!

Even if they didn't, that wouldn't be hard at all to do.

I wonder if the track-ready version will make it to American shores? I mean, it would be strange for it to not, but I can see it being one of those damn things....

Anyway, I love my Si but peace out Honda unless you can come up with something like this. I was going to move up to an S2000 funtime car but they put the axe to that.

Now it's between this or a WRX... After owning 5 hondas (and only hondas) it may be time to close the book.

Indeed, I like how in some Porche's they've replaced the rear seats with storage bins on the lightweight models.

Everyone no doubt thinking "Why didnt we think of this first!"

Seems like the demand for an FT-86 type product has been around for quite a while.

Reading the articles, apparently the guys at Ford still don't get it... they way the mustang is selling though, I don't think it matters.. lol

Wouldn't the stripped version just be the regular with parts removed? So that should mean you can add any part that is missing if you buy the associated hardware.

I hope...

all of the sudden FT-86 sets the bench mark and its not even out yet :bow:

:happy0180:

Better live up to the hype.

Heh that's awesome. Good proof that Toyota has hit on a good formula with the FT-86. This car is going to kick off a small sports car renaissance :w00t:

There's still just one automaker not on that list. I'm sure you can figure it out. :cry::cry:

Fiat?

Honda, doubt they will come to their sense that every car manufacturer needs a fun to drive car, I can't think of any thing in honda that is fun to drive in 2010 line up.

Fiat has the 500 coming, with hopefully the Abarth version too. More of a Mini or Smart competitor though

Haha ya. I was just joking

This is what I was considering. On my Mazda3, the throttle is electronic. As a result you can add cruise control by simply plugging it in.. (I believe, haven't read the article in about 2 years)

And Hi guys. I'm one of the newbies. thank jalopnik! I've been craving a small, light weight, rwd car I can afford and drive. Hopefully it's more accommodating than the Miata...

Welcome rommy! The original Evo article (unconfirmed by anyone else) said "one source close to Toyota told us that a special low-frills competition version will sell for less than $22,000 and be specially set up for racing with stiffer suspension and beefier brakes."

so if that is correct... it would be more than just "parts removed"...

Mazda.
Forgot about the RX-9
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To me all Honda's are powered by hamsters.

This is Honda's engine tuning program...

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If the top model of FT-86 comes with Brembo brake, LSD, TCS and VSC buttons, lower profile, factory turbocharger, great handling suspension system( adjustable), 18 or 19" light weight alloy, unique body kit( G sport, anyone?), and wing ( lip spoiler or small wing. not G sport wing) and costs less than 30K, I won't hesitate getting the car. They said that it's the world's best drift car, so make it like one.