Might be complicated for you🤔since you seem so inept at something this simple. If I were you, I wouldn't check the oil let alone take the tires off.

Enjoy your clean MAF tho🤗🖕🏼

le sigh

here

http://i.imgur.com/8VLTP16.png

I need a car now. I cant wait 3 weeks for it to be shipped

Just biked to the store and spwnt 90$ cheapest one in canada. INSTORE for the 5 millionth time. Lol. I cant wait for online order.

I rebuilt transmissions, transfer cases, regeared axles, added performance cams and lifters. Shit you probably know nothing about

Anyways TROLLS.

To the non trolls

Codes thrown were
P0172
P117b
P1170

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little shit? Ill have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and Ive been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and Im the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. Youre fucking done, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thats just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little clever comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldnt, you didnt, and now youre paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. Youre fucking done, kiddo.

Sorry, I couldn't resist ........:lol:

yet in 2016 you still don't have an obd II interface.

Never needed one! Jeeps throw codes when u flick ignition 3 times! A wonderful aid.

Put alot of time into that eh? Lol. Should have been raiding your own shadow government. Al queda didnt do shit to the towers

Ticking in motor. Normal?
 

Nah just copy and paste.

✌🏽️

You want our help yet you find ways to insult people?

Good job.


Here's a solution for you: PUT YOUR STOCK INTAKE BACK ON.

But I do find it funny that you insist the dealer's $6000 reader couldn't pull any codes, yet your $90 locally sourced code reader found the codes...

-alex

Woulda done that from the start. Dont have one!! Im lookin for one. And i dont insult until im insulted

Why is this thread nearing 100 posts large? :iono:

Dude, that's so OBD I ago.

Hahahah:iono::bellyroll:


:barf:

Also i had battery unplugged for a few hours whilst tinkering. Drove to get groceries. Light came on. Went to dealer. Assuming the ecu wasnt fully rebooted yet? Alls i know is he couldnt get any readings on his expensive commmercial obd scanner. But it worked with mine! Sigh of relief. Im assuming its just the intake and the previous owner is a lier and unplugged his battery before i test drove it.

Its odd seems to drive perfect until the cel comes on at about 45km. Then all goes to shit. Wish i could just tell computer to simmer down

ok
looking at those cel codes link below has list
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...41&postcount=1

P0172 system to rich
P117B direct injector fuel performance
P1170 port injector fuel performance

now the computer in car just flag what they think is wrong when a limit is exceeded

its unlikely that both the port and direct fuel systems have a problem so its like
y that the ecu is being fed crap infomation from one or more sensors

Now fueling info is primarily done by two sensors the MAF and the Front O2 sensor.
The problem coulds be either of those sensors or it can be due to bad install or those sensors or air leaks at or near those sensors.

The maf sensor should have a gasket that sits between maf and intake this is easily lost or torn or creased.
Since your saying the car runs fine for first 40 km or so it might be because their is and air leak which is causing the sensor to read incorrectly and the ecu starts correcting for a perceived lean condition till it maxes out its compensation ( long term fuel trim at 40%) then its sets codes.
If its actually running super rich you shoulds smell it in exhaust fumes

Its likely its maf or intake related. It would be best to try a stock intake as you will probably pick one up cheap from someone in this forum or auto wrecker
Its also possible its the maf sensor itself

Its also possile its and exhaust leak near or before front 02 sensor .


Check maf installed correctly
check it plugged in correctly
check maf sensor gasket

clean maf again if it might have got oil from an oiled filter on it
check its not installed backwards if thats even possible

Check for exhaust leaks or cracked header, exhaust leaks cause 02 sensor to see "fresh air" which is oxygen rich, this make the sensor think you running lean, so it signals ecu to richen fueling, which then causes you to run super rich. But the sensor keeps seeing fresk air so its still measures lean.

This is where you need torque app or techstream so you can see sensor data and compare Commanded AFR with Measured AFR and see fuel trims and maf readings.

If all looks ok then your going to have to take a punt on the maf being stuffed, but i would replace intake with stock intake first as this is likey the problem.

Early injen intakes were notiously bad for bogging and idle issies hence the upgraded version.

Replace injen intake with stock intake

I would be very suprised if you could run one of those early injen intakes without a tune to adjust maf scaling. And also supprised if you could run catless header and not throgh cel p0420 without a tune.

They might have used a O2 spacer in the Rear 02 sensor.

Check they DO NOT HAVE A 02 Spacer in thge FRONT O2 sensor as this will cause issues your seeing

Since all this happened after dealer reflash i suspect car was tuned previously and dealer reflash wiped it.

WOW ...........:thumbsup::thumbsup:


humfrz

PS- with all that information ...... now, I are a tuner ...... :D

Because the OP is ..... stubborn ....... ;)


YES, you are, @Norinradd ,......... fess up ........ :D



humfrz

Holy fuck. @steve99 what you do for a living, joke.

Oh man. Is this what I think it is? If so it was very well done.

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Just saying cause if this is a real actual post I weep for humanity. I'm begging for this to be the long con here.

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http://m.quickmeme.com/img/f7/f797c8...dfcc8164a8.jpg

And

https://i.imgflip.com/xd3xw.jpg

Just take a break off the interwebs guys.


Btw. My obd I/II Bluetooth died after 8 uses. Not sure what happened. Paid like $30 overall with app. Best to spend $200 approx once. Unfortunately, my $200 scanner majig was stolen at a meet. :(

Im not a tuner or in auto industry

Air Taffic control systems management \ fault analysis acutally :-)

Credit to the OP.

He's released the inner **** in a few people.

Any more posts like this, love them :)

Actually?

Slightly worried about flying now.

Fek. There's an "r" in traffic as well as other vehicles!!!

Legendary message!! Thank you!!

I will check the maf for a gasket asap! Far as i know it has its own seat in the intake tube. Injen is sending me a new updated intake that is supposed to fix all my problems. They admit to the tube itself throwing those exact codes. So fingers crossed!!

Im looking tireslesly for a stock intake! I have ads on every forum. Facebook. Craigslist. Nobody is answering. Called 10-15 wreckers. Will
Be calling more tomorrow.

Clean my maf again!?!?! Last time i cleaned my maf a gang of monkeys threw poo at me. I was thinking the oiled k&n filter was what ruined the maf. Why else would the aftermarket intake systems be dry systems. Ill spray her down again today

My exhaust does have a pungent kinda rottten egg smell when i sit at lights sometimes after i get the revs up. I just assumed was because it had no cats? Something does sort of sound loose underthere now at cold
Start up. The header/exhaust has a bit of a rattle. I may just beparanoid though as i have already accepted that i spent my savings on a lemon and im going to end up selling the car for 5 grand. :p


How to check for header leak?? Smoke test?? Or butane torch? Run butane gas along header and see if idle changes?? Ill look for the o2 spacer/ maf gasket and report back!

Also it may have happend from the oiled filter. Dealer dod reflash. Was still sputtering. So with only 5 min of driving i decided to clean filter as it was black (supposed to be blue). Unplugged batt Sprayed maf and put on temporary k&n well old one dried. Drove aroud for 40 minutes was running great. Then cel and tcs came on for the first time. I have a feelijg it was the oil from the filter nt the reflash. Both prev owmer and shop that installed parts say nooooo tune. No ecu calibrations. They have no reason to lie about it!

So CEL coulda been oiled filter or reflash

Ok maf removed. Theres an o ring that still looks brand new. Is suctions into the intake tube nicely. Sprayed it a good 8 times.

There are no spacers in my o2 sensors. There is two right on the header when u look down from ontop. I can email photos? You say one SHOULD havea spacer? Or are you speaking o2 sensors furth down the line? Are there more on the frs or is it just the two upfront. I am catless aswell

if this is your header below it looks like its got an inbuilt spacer on the rear o2 sensor that probably the reason you not getting the P0420 code on the stock tune. So we can probably eliminate that.

As long as their is no spacer on FRONT 02 sensor all is good.

Usually if you have an exhaust leak in header/overpipe or near o2 sensors you will smell exhaust fumes under the bonnet with engine running, or see water dripping on cold start or stains or black soot at joins/cracks

If you look at the header flanges on the photo below you will see one side is clean and one side has black soot, that header was most likely leaking at that joint, that soot would usually be visible at the joint (externally) when header installed

The ticking in motor your talking about might be an exhaust leak, or it might be the fuel injectors.

you can use a long handled screwdriver as a stethoscope to track down the noise. shove one end on the area you want to listen to and the other end in your ear (its usually best to use the big plastic end for your ear :-)


Just also check the grey plug does to grey socket and blak plug to black socket on the 02 sensors where they plug in to car wiring

The GREY plug should be the Primary 02 (first o2 sensor in exhaust flow)

their are only 2 02 sensors

It most likely the injen intake or maf sensor issue.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2vtz11j.jpg

Good post .......... :lol: about the screwdriver


humfrz

Uhg. Tried for hours to find a site to upload photos onto to post a pic of mine, but failed. Wouldnt accept my photo. I definitley dont have a spacer on either of my 02s!! Who knows maybe its the first gen header. Never thrown a p0420 despite that. I emailed the company to ask what was up with that.

Grey plug is first sensor! Yep

I dont smell exhaust funes under the hood, but as i said i do get a smell sitting at lights sometimes. Smells good :p not like exhast. Much richer. I was told it was lack of cats.

neverheard of that way of checking for exhaust leaks!! Haha. Very cool. Ill be sure to try and mention it.

Ya i may go to dealer about the tick. I dunno, everyone says thats the way thesemotors sound. I dont like noises. I like quiet smooth idle and noise when its induced. Haha. Should i make a youtube accont and post a video!?

The tick is definitley not exhaust leak. Its a mechanical ticking. Almost sounds as if someones flicking a light piece of plastic few times a second. And it seems like its coming from top right of motor. I dunno i can notice it right by my side mirror on drivers side when im idleing.


Im hoping its juat the intake ttoo. Its so weird how it doesnt stall right now. This morning i unplugged battery to take maf out and clean it. Codes dont show up till about 40km but the cars running great. Sitting still at idle. Not even a clue of a stall. Soon as CEL comes on then everything goes to shit and i stall
At every light

The ticking is likely the fuel injectors.

It likely running fine each time you reset ecu as this resets all the learned parameters like fuel trims to default ie zero in case of fuel trims. Then as the ecu starts learning its throwing the fueling off to the point where is stalling out. This does indicate a air leak , or its just the intake throwing of the maf readings. but it could still be bad maf sensor.

hopefully you can get a stock intake or maybe swap maf sensors with someone, maybe dealer will lend you one for a test.

Do you think im damaging anything by running fine? Is it hurting the injectors? I cant imagine its good. Im driving like a nanny but its killing me. I want to go for a cruise right now :| i doubt dealer would let me but i can ask. I had a diagnostic booked for tuesday. I may cancel it, wait till i get this updated injen intake, they claim will solve my issues. As i feel dealer will just say its the intake/header after reading codes. I do want them to do a total diagnostic though one day for peace of mind. I havent even had the car on a hoist since ive owned it. And im tryin to get a stock intake man!! Nobody seems to have one. Dont know anyone here with an frs or brz either. Maybe ill just follow someone. Hahah. Kidding

Also what did you think the rear 02 not havinga spacer? I cant really find any online without it. But i have the reciepts and its visually identical.

It appears from codes it running rich, should not hurt anything but I would probably not drive it a lot.


If its not tripping code P0420 then don't worry about any spacers then one inbuilt in header must be working fine, its just a emissions warning code.


try posting here
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=60
and
here
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=84




for a stock intake

Thank you!

So plan of attack?
Stock intake or injen updated intake whichever comes first. If those dont get it running better what should i do?

Go to dealer. As their update made things run worse. Pay for full diagnostic. Have a feeling theyll say its the header and intake. And do nothing about it. But i would like a full lookover by a tech to make sure all is good. Would rather do that when its running good though.

Go to tuner. Get them to fix and tune. Tuner here says 700-800$. Done dozens of frs/brz and have them down. Most reputable tuner in my province.

Or theres a member on here selling a unichip. Would that solve my problems? 300$ to potentially run smoother and acthally be able to drive my car sounds wonderful

Why not just get a OFT? I didn't read this thread, so maybe you stated why, but the nice thing about is the OFT is that there is basically no headaches and you tune it with a safe tune.