Ya, it probably varies from dealer to dealer and maybe the guys that posted had to pay taxes or something. Still a bargain in my books since the other routes involve several places and no guarantee it will work in the end.

That could be the difference with the guys at the upper end of the cost scale. They didn't have a master so more was involved.

Almost a grand for 2 keys with all the programming. Push to start is lie $500. Guess which I'll get

But would you not have to program fobs for push to start and it would cost the same? The expense for the other isn't getting the keys cut it is the programing and that would have to be done either way.

According to 2 separate push to start manufacturers(one, the local Toyota dealer is a licensed installer for) told me no keys need made and it would bypass the lack of a master key. I presume their system becomes the new master key in essence. So it's $1000 for 2 master keys or $450+ install. Since both companies said the same thing I trust it's accurate. If one said no I'd be very suspicious if they actually knew

Hmmmm cool. Does that include the doors as well? Not in any way doubting your info but somehow a fob with the engine enabler chip is still involved so I don't understand the price difference.

Opens the doors too. You get I think 2fobs that(if I remember properly) unlock and lock the doors when you get near/leave the vehicle and allow the start button to activate. May pop the trunk too. Should have full pushbutton start functionality same as the factory versions

I ask so many questions because my keyless is about the only thing I miss from my old cars but this sounds way to easy.
The stock fobs have the engine enabling chip in them (even the keyed ones) so any idea how they get around that?

It would have to be a manual. I don't think you can push-start most modern automatic cars. A buddy of mine had an old late '60's Dodge of some kind with an auto tranny, I think, that we used to have to push start frequently 'cause he was too cheap to buy a battery or starter to replace his failing starting system. It always amazed me that you could push-start an auto car; I thought he was hallucinating the first time he convinced me to help him do it. But.. sure enough... away it went once we pushed it fast enough.

Popping the clutch once rollin' in a manual... that's a piece of cake. You still need the key to release the steering lock, though, unless you plan on going in whatever direction the wheels are locked in ONLY, and to get all the other electrical circuits online.

Oh ... wait... this isn't what you meant by "push to start, " is it... ? ;)

Guess I've had too many cars that, occasionally, I did "push to start" over the years.. and a few motorcycles, too.

Barry

That is either bypassed or replaced as far as I can tell. I didn't ask exactly how they made it happen but I decided my problem and they said a master key was not necessary for their system to work and it would work as intended. Now both companies could be wrong, but I found it unlikely

Were they chain companies or just local? I am now on a quest!

Easy Go and Advanced Keys are the 2 I contacted

Thanks. I will start digging. Not sure if there any such thing nearby here but worth a shot.

I'd check the website for licensed installers. At least one has a list/map, that's how I found the local Toyota dealer listed. I'd imagine most places that install remote start can do it for you