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ExxelDistributions 10-27-2015 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ronboogieon (Post 2432815)
I recently smogged our 09 mazda3 and it was able to pass with a non-CARB aftermarket second cat. Maybe its because it looked stock or the place I went to didn't do visual check.
Wondering if the Berk Hi-flow cat on the BRZ will pass? Anyone try yet?
Some techs might not go into details and check everything one by one and see if the aftermarket part has a label on it. That's just your luck.


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Originally Posted by jaorocks1 (Post 2432909)
So let's say I gutted my stock header and front pipe... and run my e85 tune it will still pass? :O
Don't think so. Not sure if a tune gets the CEL off and all readiness monitors ready or not. But if a tune does turn the CEL off and the monitors stay incomplete then no it wont pass.

Phantobe 10-27-2015 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by revolutioN21 (Post 2433064)
Some techs might not go into details and check everything one by one and see if the aftermarket part has a label on it. That's just your luck.




Don't think so. Not sure if a tune gets the CEL off and all readiness monitors ready or not. But if a tune does turn the CEL off and the monitors stay incomplete then no it wont pass.
A tune can/will (specifically Open Flash Tune) turn off the CEL for running a catless setup. So it should pass right? I assume you had a typo in your second line.

ExxelDistributions 10-27-2015 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Phantobe (Post 2433151)
A tune can/will (specifically Open Flash Tune) turn off the CEL for running a catless setup. So it should pass right? I assume you had a typo in your second line.
not a typo. what I was saying is if the CEL is off but the readiness monitors are incomplete then it will still fail.

Phantobe 10-27-2015 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by revolutioN21 (Post 2433236)
not a typo. what I was saying is if the CEL is off but the readiness monitors are incomplete then it will still fail.
So pretty much stock header with no cat is gonna fail even if you have a tune that gets rid of the CEL.

Lol damn I thought I found a work around :mad0259:

NyC Zn6 10-27-2015 02:26 PM
they do visual inspections in CA? seems like you guys get stiffed with all these tests.

Clipdat 10-27-2015 02:29 PM
Howbout silicon inlet tubes?

http://perrinperformance.com/images/M92268231

8R6 10-27-2015 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 2433426)
you'll fail the visual test. that is, if the tech goes by the book, which these days the chances are he will.

go_a_way1 10-27-2015 03:10 PM
Man I am so happy I live in Alberta!

Clipdat 10-27-2015 03:11 PM
Guess I will have to swap back to the OEM inlet tube, complete with retarded noise generator. So stupid.

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Originally Posted by 8R6 (Post 2433466)
you'll fail the visual test. that is, if the tech goes by the book, which these days the chances are he will.

ExxelDistributions 10-27-2015 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by NyC Zn6 (Post 2433423)
they do visual inspections in CA? seems like you guys get stiffed with all these tests.
Yes we check to make sure all components are in place.

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Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 2433426)
since its not the original it has to have a CARB Label on it.

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Originally Posted by 8R6 (Post 2433466)
you'll fail the visual test. that is, if the tech goes by the book, which these days the chances are he will.
Most techs now days do go by the book. reason being is because the state has been coming down on us all and watching us like a hawk. They shut down 4 shops locally here for not following the book so I dont most places will close their eyes on it

8R6 10-27-2015 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by revolutioN21 (Post 2433478)

Most techs now days do go by the book. reason being is because the state has been coming down on us all and watching us like a hawk. They shut down 4 shops locally here for not following the book so I dont most places will close their eyes on it
yeap. my dads has had his smog shop for the past 30yrs. trust me, i totally understand what you guys are going thru in having to deal with the BAR and the rest of this communist state lol

ExxelDistributions 10-27-2015 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 8R6 (Post 2433484)
yeap. my dads has had his smog shop for the past 30yrs. trust me, i totally understand what you guys are going thru in having to deal with the BAR and the rest of this communist state lol
exactly lol!

cycleboy 10-27-2015 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ronboogieon (Post 2432815)
I recently smogged our 09 mazda3 and it was able to pass with a non-CARB aftermarket second cat. Maybe its because it looked stock or the place I went to didn't do visual check.

Wondering if the Berk Hi-flow cat on the BRZ will pass? Anyone try yet?
Unless someone tried it for a test, I doubt it. We're exempt for 6 years, so the 2012's won't require it until 2019. I wonder if you get a fix it ticket for being too loud if they could force you to get a smog check early? Seems unlikely.

I thought about doing that type of mod since I wouldn't have to undo it for at least another 5 years or so. It'd suck after that to have to reset everything every other year though.

ExxelDistributions 10-27-2015 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cycleboy (Post 2433918)
Unless someone tried it for a test, I doubt it. We're exempt for 6 years, so the 2012's won't require it until 2019. I wonder if you get a fix it ticket for being too loud if they could force you to get a smog check early? Seems unlikely.

I thought about doing that type of mod since I wouldn't have to undo it for at least another 5 years or so. It'd suck after that to have to reset everything every other year though.
The state has been talking about changing the 6 year rule to either 3-4 years. Nothing is set for sure. But they are discussing it with shops. Also its mostly for the out of state guys. Us CA guys don't need smog for 6 years but no matter how old a car is out of state requires smog regardless


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