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Tcoat 04-22-2015 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaya (Post 2222765)
Well then whenever I finally take a roadtrip up there (been wanting to for a couple years) I will judge Canadians by the PNW folks.

Pretty much the same except we are smarter, better looking and are just overall more amazing.

http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/upl...astic-meme.jpg

Amaya 04-22-2015 05:34 PM

I spent about ten days in Canada but for most of it I was in the wilderness. Main thing I remember about Canadians is their tea is hot and there was an old guy at McDonalds that told me a joke.
Canadian: do you know the forecast for tonight?
Me: not really
Canadian: dark!

Jaden 04-22-2015 06:20 PM

People had FI long before ECU mods were available.
 
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Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 2221817)
That's a lot of people though. Every FI kit that uses an ECUtek, flex fuel kits, all OFT users from the very basic stage 1 users to the guys creating their own custom maps, would all be affected. Would people still drop $5-6K on a turbo kit if it meant they had to spend another $2K+ on a standalone ECU? Out of all the FI cars on this forum, I don't think more than a handful of them use standalones.

There would just be changes to the way fuel is adjusted for FI.

We used to use FMU's that adjusted fuel rail pressure based on boost levels.

Fuel economy sucks and AFR's sometimes had to be too low, but it worked.

I would imagine independent port electronic FMUs would be developed that would allow for more localized control. It'd be cheaper than stand alone units but not as good as remapping the stock ecu...

Jaden

Brick 04-22-2015 07:12 PM

Most people seem to forget that in the US the with good ol EPA tuning your car is technically tampering with emissions equipment and is illegal anyway.

Amaya 04-22-2015 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brick (Post 2223280)
Most people seem to forget that in the US the with good ol EPA tuning your car is technically tampering with emissions equipment and is illegal anyway.

F*ck the EPA








That is all.

IBill4You 04-22-2015 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Special_K (Post 2221707)

Mother of god!
That's it guys,
I'm trading in my BRZ. It was fun while it lasted.:D

soulreapersteve 04-22-2015 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaya (Post 2222765)
Well then whenever I finally take a roadtrip up there (been wanting to for a couple years) I will judge Canadians by the PNW folks.

I dunno if the Canadians want to be grouped into us PNW folks as we are always extremely depressed and even borderline suicidal since it's always dark and rainy here.

Amaya 04-23-2015 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by soulreapersteve (Post 2223603)
I dunno if the Canadians want to be grouped into us PNW folks as we are always extremely depressed and even borderline suicidal since it's always dark and rainy here.

Yep, definitely moving to the PNW now, it sounds perfect. I love dark and rainy, and I'm often extremely depressed :D

Tcoat 04-23-2015 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Amaya (Post 2223655)
Yep, definitely moving to the PNW now, it sounds perfect. I love dark and rainy, and I'm often extremely depressed :D

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Amaya 04-23-2015 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2223821)

Haha, doesn't look a bit like me. I generally stay away from anything that would make me stand out in a crowd. And besides that's just a style that some people like but really it's what's inside that counts.

Dadhawk 04-23-2015 08:29 AM

Another article on the original topic of tuning with info on both GM and John Deere. It's one thing to piss off GM fanboys (which includes me), but you start messing with the John Deere crowd, you got a problem.

PandaSPUR 04-23-2015 08:39 AM

I think the main issue with this is if it makes it illegal for the tuners or companies themselves to modify the ECU.

Right now, even if its illegal for the owner to be running a certain tune, it wasnt illegal for the tuner to create the tune (all they have to do is say "Off-Road use only" or etc.)

But if it becomes illegal, it wont be the same as jailbreaking iPhones or rooting Android phones. Those are small operations run by the community and don't cost users any money. Tuners charge a lot for the work and tools involved, they're also a lot easier to track down a serve a lawsuit to.

Hopefully it wont come down to this, or at least not for all cars (IDGAF if you lock down the corolla, leave our enthusiast targeted cars alone)

Amaya 04-23-2015 08:44 AM

On the plus side maybe it would expand the market for standalone controllers and the higher volume of sales would lower prices?

Tcoat 04-23-2015 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Amaya (Post 2223889)
On the plus side maybe it would expand the market for standalone controllers and the higher volume of sales would lower prices?

Very good point.
They cost so much now because why bother but if they started selling a pile of them the price would certainly drop.


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