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daiheadjai 12-23-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tahdizzle (Post 2065648)
from what I see* just after the crest of that "hill", the hellcat starting to drift to the *Left toward the double line. He then overcorrected and Then* it went to the right where he over corrected again and ended up on the other side of the road.

I wonder how much suspension tuning could've been an issue.
Typically, hitting a crest in a softly-sprung car results in that uncomfortable negative-G feeling, and traction does suffer if you're going fast enough...

Ultramaroon 12-23-2014 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by daiheadjai (Post 2066266)
I wonder how much suspension tuning could've been an issue.
Typically, hitting a crest in a softly-sprung car results in that uncomfortable negative-G feeling, and traction does suffer if you're going fast enough...

He had it for an hour. You can't fix stupid with coilovers.

themadscientist 12-23-2014 05:54 PM

Sure you can.

  1. Jack up car
  2. Remove wheel
  3. Remove coilover
  4. Hit dipshit in head with coilover
  5. Reinstall coilover and tire
  6. Lower car
  7. Drive away

Ultramaroon 12-23-2014 06:17 PM

Seems legit.

jay1989 12-23-2014 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by themadscientist (Post 2066654)
Sure you can.

  1. Jack up car
  2. Remove wheel
  3. Remove coilover
  4. Hit dipshit in head with coilover
  5. Reinstall coilover and tire
  6. Lower car
  7. Drive away

Lmao I know a couple people that could be hit in the head with a coil over lol

Black Tire 12-23-2014 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tahdizzle (Post 2065626)

Looks like: got scared with a little drift into the corner. Over corrected with suspension unweighted (not even the stickiest gumballs grip when airborne), which resulted in dropping a wheel off the inside of the corner. Over corrected again with two wheels off, got it back on the pavement. With the grip on the pavement it predictably shot to the other side of the road. Driver error.

Now, having analyzed that, this is a big, heavy car. The suspension is probably too soft for really aggressive driving (true of virtually all production cars — even performance ones — that the marketing people want to sell to mom and pop). Once it gets squirrelly, it would be very difficult to save it. The best option would have been to mow over the fence on the inside of the corner and stop in the weeds, but this is completely against most driver's natural tendencies.

Why has no one mentioned the poor trees that were hurt by the crash? Pamala Glover would be quite angry (I couldn't find a clip where she says "I love trees," but here is the character anyway :lol::

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0B6eog8k4M"]Farrah Fawcett playing Pamela Glover[/ame]

Sugi 12-24-2014 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tahdizzle (Post 2065636)
So now that we have the lay-out of the road taken and the tiremarks.

Lets all play the "What do I think happened" game.

*The 2nd picture should have been posted first*

Being a retard is my guess

fatoni 12-24-2014 03:31 AM

I love how people here can blame the cars poor handling for this kind of thing when it corners so much better than the frs. If this thing cant turn, what does the frs do?

Ultramaroon 12-24-2014 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 2067060)
I love how people here can blame the cars poor handling for this kind of thing when it corners so much better than the frs. If this thing cant turn, what does the frs do?

The twins are more straight-line momentum cars.

tahdizzle 12-24-2014 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 2067060)
I love how people here can blame the cars poor handling for this kind of thing when it corners so much better than the frs. If this thing cant turn, what does the frs do?


Why do you claim that it corners than a twin?

Do you have anything to back-up your statement? Have you driven a hellcat?

fatoni 12-24-2014 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tahdizzle (Post 2067539)
Why do you claim that it corners than a twin?

Do you have anything to back-up your statement? Have you driven a hellcat?

Just data from the skid pad, figure 8, braking distances and such. All cars handle fine. People aren't wrecking minivans. These cars get crashed because of power, not handling.

tahdizzle 12-24-2014 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 2067724)
Just data from the skid pad, figure 8, braking distances and such. All cars handle fine. People aren't wrecking minivans. These cars get crashed because of power, not handling.


I don't disagree, but I will say the suspension and handeling was not thought about as much as the BIG NUMBERS when developing the Hellcat.

So I say it is the dissonance between power and handeling in the hellcat that people refer to when they say "the hellcat doesn't handle well".

Ultramaroon 12-24-2014 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 2067724)
Just data from the skid pad, figure 8, braking distances and such. All cars handle fine. People aren't wrecking minivans. These cars get crashed because of power, not handling.

Oh. I was kidding.

fatoni 12-24-2014 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tahdizzle (Post 2067730)
I don't disagree, but I will say the suspension and handeling was not thought about as much as the BIG NUMBERS when developing the Hellcat.

So I say it is the dissonance between power and handeling in the hellcat that people refer to when they say "the hellcat doesn't handle well".

I can go for that.
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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2067731)
Oh. I was kidding.

I know. Ha ha.


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