Originally Posted by Victor Draken (Post 1651733)

I'm chill guys. :)

The point is not that I want an uber awesome super perfect free of charge Tune from shiv.
What I'm saying is: since OFT came out I have never seen one EL chart. They must certainly dyno-street tune an EL car to develop OTS. So why not giving us at least one or two charts? I understand that he sells UEL, I understand that the device is what he sells and not OTS but he provides maps with his OFT and so as a customer I'm trying to express my frustration in not seeing even one EL charts/post that tell us difference/pros/cons.

Anyway let's get back on topic.



Disclaimer: I'M NOT CRITICISING THE QUALITY OF SHIV WORK IN ANYWAY. I BELIEVE HE IS A VERY GOOD TUNER AND THAT OTS MAPS ARE GREAT. SO FOR ANYONE READING MY POSTS DONT GET IT WRONG PLEASE :)

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Originally Posted by Boofneenee (Post 1651769)

I see. The only dyno I have seen the company post of a EL dyno (chart) is that comparing UEL tune vs EL tune. Maybe their is more but I have not found them. So I understand what you are saying.

I think the real question is.. why EL when you can have the UEL burble exhaust? :happyanim:

Originally Posted by FrsDuke (Post 1651880)

I for one would like to see shiv revisit EL if for no other reason than there are much better EL headers available now than there were when he developed the stage1 and 2 tunes. I still don't even know which header he used. I'd love for shiv to start selling nameless headers, but you can't have everything haha. I'm very pleased with my nameless on his stage two tunes particularly the e85, but I bet a lot of power is being left on the table. The lack of tuners around Austin makes a custom tune a pita for me at the moment.

Originally Posted by FrsDuke (Post 1651880)

I for one would like to see shiv revisit EL if for no other reason than there are much better EL headers available now than there were when he developed the stage1 and 2 tunes. I still don't even know which header he used. I'd love for shiv to start selling nameless headers, but you can't have everything haha. I'm very pleased with my nameless on his stage two tunes particularly the e85, but I bet a lot of power is being left on the table. The lack of tuners around Austin makes a custom tune a pita for me at the moment.

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1652221)

Shiv's stance on stuff like this is pretty good IMO, find a customer with a specific hardware setup and he'll offer up a tune (like the vortech OTS map).

Asking someone who is already providing free tunes to find people with certain setups and then pay for dyno time to update his free tunes is a pretty ridiculous thing to ask for.

If you want him to support your given setup, you can always pay $200 for an e-tune.

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1652221)

Shiv's stance on stuff like this is pretty good IMO, find a customer with a specific hardware setup and he'll offer up a tune (like the vortech OTS map).

Asking someone who is already providing free tunes to find people with certain setups and then pay for dyno time to update his free tunes is a pretty ridiculous thing to ask for.

If you want him to support your given setup, you can always pay $200 for an e-tune.

Originally Posted by Deepseadiver (Post 1652651)

I would like to see some testing and the results for forced induction applications! I have the BPB, but not sure if I want to put them on yet. Will the make power with the Vortech supercharger kit?????

Originally Posted by Victor Draken (Post 1652270)

your reading skill is not that good man.
Sorry to say it but you are just not understanding the point we are trying to make.

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1653673)

Hi guys,
Gas tank is almost empty. The next fill up will be with E85 :)