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armythug 12-15-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Shutter (Post 1391182)
Camber plates are not needed. I am currently running 18x9 +40 with 245/40/18, and I now have PLENTY of room between the tire/wheel and coilover. I haven't done my alignment yet, but I'm expecting to have between -1.5 and -2 camber up front with just the ST coilovers). Camber plates are used when you're trying to get lots of negative camber, or to ensure that you can dial in the exact alignment settings you want. For a dd, you will be fine without camber plates. What's best? If later down the road you want to get camber plates, they'll be a simple bolt on/addition to the ST's. As far as crash bolts go, they work, but I'm not really a fan of them...just a personal opinion.
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What are your ultimate goals as far as camber are concerned? Unless you need lots of adjustment, you'll probably be fine with the slotted front struts. As far as the rear camber adjustment, you'll need the whiteline rear camber kit or adjustable rear lower control arms(usually the preferred method-and made by many different vendors;stance, whiteline, cusco spc etc). Once again, the rear control arms/camber adjustment won't be needed with the ST's(or any other coilover)...but they would be a nice addition. Again, what are your overall goals for the car? How much do you want to lower it etc etc...

Thanks for the response. I am keen on a drop similar to Mike the snake's car in this thread. I just wasn't sure if I would need camber plates up front in order to achieve that look with 9.5 inch tires up front. My car is mainly for the street. I have work wheels (18x9.5) and Cusco LCA waiting to be fitted. I just need tires and coilovers.

BRZY 12-16-2013 12:54 AM

For the front ST struts, did you guys use the oem spring perch, rubber gasket, or the subaru conical washer? I did the install today minus all 3 of those and there's noise from the passenger side front.

Fizz 12-16-2013 01:26 AM

You don't need to use to oem spring perch or rubber spring isolator for the ST coilovers, but it's recommended that you do get the conical washer. The noise can be from a number or reasons, but firstly check whether the top nut is tightened properly. Did you use a pass-through socket set to tighten the top nuts?

continuecrushing 12-16-2013 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BRZY (Post 1392436)
For the front ST struts, did you guys use the oem spring perch, rubber gasket, or the subaru conical washer? I did the install today minus all 3 of those and there's noise from the passenger side front.

I just used the oem top hat...no rubber gasket, no oem spring perch, and no conical washer. I've seen it recommended(here on the forum), but the ST instructions made no reference to it. What sound is it making?

Fizz 12-16-2013 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Shutter (Post 1392630)
I just used the oem spring perch...no rubber gasket, and no conical washer. I've seen it recommended(here on the forum), but the ST instructions made no reference to it. What sound is it making?

I think you meant the oem top mounts....not the spring perch since these coilovers come with their own spring perch already.

continuecrushing 12-16-2013 05:13 AM

Ahh....my bad lol. It's late for me!

switchlanez 12-16-2013 12:52 PM

Is the upper perch of the front ST coilover shaped to fit with a conical washer between it and the top mount or is the perch already conical/pointy in a way such that a conical washer would be redundant? Also, what hardware cannot be reused besides the front strut/knuckle bolts?

BRZY 12-16-2013 03:23 PM

There is a clunging sound at low speeds only.

The spring perch on the ST has a similar contact area as the washer welded on the OEM spring perch.

TeamZleep 12-16-2013 03:49 PM

If it has a similar contact area, then the washers shouldn't be needed.

My ST's get here Wednesday, I'm debating if I should pick up the subie washer to be safe. Although some guys on here say they don't have it and have no issues....

switchlanez 12-16-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamZleep (Post 1393511)
If it has a similar contact area, then the washers shouldn't be needed.

My ST's get here Wednesday, I'm debating if I should pick up the subie washer to be safe. Although some guys on here say they don't have it and have no issues....

I called ST and they said the washer isn't needed otherwise the instructions would specify it.

TeamZleep 12-16-2013 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 1393882)
I called ST and they said the washer isn't needed otherwise the instructions would specify it.

Nice! Looking forward to the install this weekend. :happyanim:

switchlanez 12-27-2013 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamZleep (Post 1393897)
Nice! Looking forward to the install this weekend. :happyanim:

Did you get them? I'm still waiting for mine because I heard from ST that they're on backorder.

I was having 2nd thoughts about the integrated conical washer. Looks like the ST does have a washer-like protrusion at the top of the perch but I can't clearly see how it compares against the stock perch protrusion:

http://i.imgur.com/rxr75Qb.jpg

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1365027777

Are they identically sized?

switchlanez 12-27-2013 01:17 AM

And to hold me over as I wait for my coils, anybody have anymore side profile shots taken at tire/fender level with the out-of-the-box height settings?

TeamZleep 12-27-2013 07:40 AM

Mine will actually be here today. They were supposed to be here before Christmas, but alas, the one set left in stock was ordered hours before I put my order in. The guys at KW had to wait for more perches to arrive from Europe, and mine were assembled/shipped last Thursday. So if FedEX is as good as they claim to be (especially with the holiday mail slowdown), I'll be a happy camper by noon!


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