Originally Posted by vgi (Post 1229432)

I don't know. Why do people crack photoshop when there is a gimp

Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 1229444)

because gimp's interface terribly clunky

Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 1229444)

photoshop and gimp both have the capability of editing photos.

Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 1229444)

but with ... pirated ECUtek [using fake license key], unless you've got a vendor's license and software then you're still not able to edit the map you pirated. it would be read only without those tools.

Originally Posted by vgi (Post 1229511)

yep, i would guess number of folks would rather use familiar ecutech interface and features they know how to access.

yep, so does ecutech and OFT/BRZEdit/romraider/ecuflash

it's like saying that if you have a pirated photoshop license key and software installation binary or disk then once you install and register this photoshop with pirated key you will only be able to see the images but not modify or save them.
the clones would only be used for figuring out the licensing algorithm/handshake between the tune and software using authentic cable.
as for modifying cloned ecu, if you're interested, using the original cable - you should ask shiv if it's doable, i would guess yes since he was able to flash back to stock tune.

but again, these are just my speculations and you might be right :iono:

neither do I care. when I decide on what to get - I will just pay the money to support the solution I like.
imo, OFT shouldn't have tried reading and deciphering EcuTech tunes. This is IP of other people and that's how they make money. Now though it's been compromised. Now that BrzEdit allows reading and flashing free tunes from OFT it also may hurt sales of OFT. It's a war out there.

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1229522)

We won't even bother trying to crack the ecutek security because, IMHO, it's not necessary or even worth doing.

Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 1229142)

just found this post from delicious that states it's not locked:

Originally Posted by bfrank1972 (Post 1238060)

Very cool stuff! So correct me if I'm wrong, the only expendature is a $170 tactrix cable?

Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 1238079)

assuming you know how to tune yourself, then yes.

Originally Posted by robot (Post 1238889)

Tactrix cable and ideally a wideband O2 gauge (iirc innovate's can log alongside the romraider stuff).

Also a k-line obd ii cable could be used as a Tactrix cable (ver 1). Not sure if a generic k-line cable will work with the new can bus ecu we have.

Edit:

http://www.tactrix.com/index.php?pag...mart&Itemid=53

Yep innovate's wideband plugs right in.

Originally Posted by robot (Post 1238889)

Tactrix cable and ideally a wideband O2 gauge (iirc innovate's can log alongside the romraider stuff).

Also a k-line obd ii cable could be used as a Tactrix cable (ver 1). Not sure if a generic k-line cable will work with the new can bus ecu we have.