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-   -   Are you waiting for Turbo? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4367)

Dark 03-22-2012 05:51 PM

turbo, push start and trunk swap. :lol:

Giccin 03-22-2012 05:58 PM

Waiting for a hatch. Kekeke

lol

RRnold 03-22-2012 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 162877)
Zero interest in a turbo version here.

You will when I pass you... on the outide!! Vrrrrooomm pssssh! :lol:

TBH, with the price announced, the turbo rumor and the talk about how they want to update it annually, I'm going to wait! The motos will keep me occupied for now! :thumbup:

blacknbean 03-22-2012 06:14 PM

id be more excited for a higher hp NA version or supercharger..im kinda meh on turbos on the track cuz of the heat and maitanence. my current car is like a science project trying to log everything and figure out if its running right. sometime i miss NA when you punch it, its the same everytime.

dabocx 03-22-2012 06:26 PM

I want a tri charged setup. Turbocharger, electric turbocharger and supercharger. 400hp in eco mode on 87 octane.

And push start.

Under 27k

Sasquachulator 03-22-2012 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu_ (Post 162907)
It won't get the same mpg. I would assume it gets maybe get 19/20 city and 26/27 highway. Also I only got 16ish mpg out of my STI even though it was rated for 18mpg city. Spirited driving in a turbo car really kills your mileage.

My understanding with turbo gas mileage is that

You drive it lightly, not getting the turbo involved much and it returns good mileage (or whatever its rated at)

Once you get those turbo's spooling gas mileage just takes a huge dump. Since once you get those turbos involved, you're force feeding air into the cylinder chamber and the computer needs to adjust for the proper fuel/air ratio mixture for ideal combustion.

Its like VTAK and my VVTLi lift system. I hit the cam change (at high revs), get a power boost but my gas mileage goes down the shitter accordingly.

Snoopyalien24 03-22-2012 06:48 PM

If it releases as a dealer option or from factory, I would consider turbo -> because warranty

If not, then buy a used car <10k miles

FoolCyclist 03-22-2012 06:50 PM

No interest in turbo
 
Would not want this car to have a turbo. Would love to see a 250hp N/A version. I think it's not going to be too hard to get it there with some aftermarket help.

If I wanted a turbo I would have just gotten an STI. Still might do that as well. (dont tell the Mrs.) But for my daily driver this little N/A coupe is just the ticket. :thumbsup:

brianbot5000 03-22-2012 06:56 PM

Would trade up if it's enticing and not outrageously priced, and doesn't come with a massive spoiler. I'm not into doing too many engine mods, so a nice bump in power from the factory would be cool. But I'm sure I'll also be happy with it as-is.

switchlanez 03-22-2012 06:58 PM

Yess preeze!

Bristecom 03-22-2012 06:59 PM

For this type of car, I do not want a turbo. A turbo means less responsiveness, less reliability, more maintenance, and more weight. Don't get me wrong, I love turbos - I have one in my Eclipse but I recently had to replace it because it went out at 120k which took 2 months to get from Japan and cost me 2500 dollars. With this car, I want simplicity, reliability, and responsiveness.

switchlanez 03-22-2012 07:04 PM

This looks like a good place to quote a post I made when Subaru started taking pre-orders at the beginning of this month.
Quote:

Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 147107)
...I had a long chat with a Subaru sales manager last night (supposedly sold 18 WRX/STIs across a few dealerships last year and the dealership near me will be alotted 4 BRZs for the 7 month launch). He's a tech guy very familiar with the details on the BRZ (supposedly has mingled with BRZ engineers from Fuji Heavy at regional meetings and emails them). He's confident they'll put the turbo in; just doesn't know when Subaru will give the OK.

The reason he called me was to ask what specs I'd want if I were to pre-order (nobody has ordered yet) so I told him WRB Limited 6MT but I wanted to wait for special editions. He proceeded to talk about the turbo. Though it's speculation, it's a detriment to trying to fill his pre-order list. That says something.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...?t=3965&page=8

zoomzoomers 03-22-2012 07:06 PM

Oh gawd. You did it now. I'll keep my eye open for that let's hope Subaru/Toyota releases that Trubo FRS/BRZ for $26k thread. :lol:

Bristecom 03-22-2012 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator (Post 163050)
My understanding with turbo gas mileage is that

You drive it lightly, not getting the turbo involved much and it returns good mileage (or whatever its rated at)

Once you get those turbo's spooling gas mileage just takes a huge dump. Since once you get those turbos involved, you're force feeding air into the cylinder chamber and the computer needs to adjust for the proper fuel/air ratio mixture for ideal combustion.

Its like VTAK and my VVTLi lift system. I hit the cam change (at high revs), get a power boost but my gas mileage goes down the shitter accordingly.

Yep, more power means more air which means more fuel which means less MPG. But when driving lightly, a turbo gets it up to speed more efficiently so it uses less fuel. But having a big turbo which doesn't spool down low (like in the STI and Evo), doesn't help fuel economy much at all. The turbo in my Eclipse is tiny but still gives me good power and it gets great mpg for the amount of power/torque it produces.


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